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Re: Lotus

To: Alan Gruner <algruner@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Lotus
From: "John J. Stimson-III" <john@harlie.idsfa.net>
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 12:14:16 -0700
Alan...it's too bad that Caterham has removed so much information from
their web site, but back around December they were advertising two
special versions of the Seven: the Fireblade and the Blackhawk.  Both
powered by the Honda motorcycle engine from its namesake.  825 and 925
Lbs, respectively.

On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 11:27:42AM -0700, Alan Gruner wrote:
> I have always like the 180 degree crankshaft makes in
> a  V8. It's kind of like having two sport bikes runing
> in unisyn. 
> 
> Hmm... a 900-1200cc crotch rocket engine would make a
> fun power plant for a Seven.   
> 
> --- "Michael R. Clements" <mrclem@telocity.com> wrote:
> > I admit I'm biased, but I think my Panoz sounds way
> > better than a 360
> > Modena.
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-ba-autox@autox.team.net 
> > > [mailto:owner-ba-autox@autox.team.net] On Behalf
> > Of Allendorfer, Peter
> > > Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 09:53
> > > To: 'Pat Kelly '; 'Michael R. Clements '; ''John
> > F. Kelly 
> > > Jr.' '; ''John J. Stimson-III' '
> > > Cc: ''BayArea Team.Net' '
> > > Subject: RE: Lotus
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  It's not the smell, it's the sound.  The ferrari
> > sound 
> > > engineer must get paid in gold bullion.  It's the
> > only 
> > > explination of the exhaust sound.
> > > 
> > > -Peter
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Pat Kelly
> > > To: Michael R. Clements; 'John F. Kelly Jr.';
> > 'John J.  Stimson-III'
> > > Cc: 'BayArea Team.Net'
> > > Sent: 5/30/02 9:28 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Lotus
> > > 
> > > But, but, the leather smells so great! :)
> > > --Pat K
> > > 
> > > ----------
> > > >From: "Michael R. Clements" <mrclem@telocity.com>
> > > >To: "'John F. Kelly Jr.'"
> > <76067.1750@compuserve.com>, "'John J.
> > > Stimson-III'"
> > > <john@harlie.idsfa.net>
> > > >Cc: "'BayArea Team.Net'"
> > <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
> > > >Subject: RE: Lotus
> > > >Date: Thu, May 30, 2002, 9:09 AM
> > > >
> > > 
> > > > Does a 3,000 lb. Ferrari actually outcorner a
> > 1,500 lb. Elise? I'll
> > > bet
> > > > the Elise actually runs circles around any
> > Ferrari on a tight
> > > course...
> > > >
> > > > Most magazines have a strongly pro-Ferrari bias.
> > I've 
> > > driven Ferraris 
> > > > owned by a couple friends of mine and was
> > underwhelmed. 
> > > They were nice 
> > > > cars, with handling and acceleration similar to
> > a 3rd 
> > > generation RX-7. 
> > > > All the hype from everything I'd read about
> > Ferraris had me 
> > > expecting 
> > > > more.
> > > >
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: owner-ba-autox@autox.team.net 
> > > >> [mailto:owner-ba-autox@autox.team.net] On
> > Behalf Of John 
> > > F. Kelly Jr.
> > > >> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 08:39
> > > >> To: John F. Kelly Jr.; John J. Stimson-III
> > > >> Cc: BayArea Team.Net
> > > >> Subject: Re: Lotus
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> -------------------- Begin Original Message
> > --------------------
> > > >>
> > > >> Message text written by "John J. Stimson-III"
> > > >>
> > > >> "The Esprit certainly is not.  However, the
> > Elise and its variants 
> > > >> sold by Lotus can only be registered for the
> > street by 
> > > dodging around 
> > > >> the laws.  I guess that is what Scot probably
> > meant. "
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> -------------------- End Original Message
> > --------------------
> > > >>
> > > >> I think you're correct. But a "gray market" I'm
> > more familar with 
> > > >> concerns cameras purchased overseas and for
> > which the manufacturer 
> > > >> will not honor any warranties.
> > > >>
> > > >> In the Elise's case, the sale is direct from
> > the 
> > > manufacturer. Their 
> > > >> web page is pretty specific that you can't
> > drive it on the street. 
> > > >> Oh, BTW, did you see the June issue of Road &
> > Track which 
> > > ranks the 
> > > >> Elise second only to a Ferrari as a good
> > handling car?
> > > >>
> > > >> --John Kelly
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john@idsfa.net                                              John Stimson
http://www.idsfa.net/~john/                              HMC Physics '94

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