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Re: FF2000 proposal in Solo II CM class

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Subject: Re: FF2000 proposal in Solo II CM class
From: Sam & Greg Scharnberg <samandgreg@netins.net>
Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 13:08:06 -0600
Just an FYI, the minimum weight for a FF2000 in Formula Continental is 1190 
with driver and many cars need ballast to make this weight.  1400 lbs is 
210 over road race.  I don't think there would be a problem with this extra 
weight since at 130-140 mph there is probably about this much downforce.

All that being said, I don't have a clue where I would be able to stash 
that much weight in my car.  (94 Citation SF).  And I weigh a bunch more 
than many drivers! :-(

Greg Scharnberg
94 Citation SF
82 Ralt RT5

At 01:36 PM 12/8/2003 -0500, Godula, Gary (G.M.) wrote:
>To all,
>
>I would like to discuss the proposal of allowing FF2000 cars to compete in 
>the C Modified class in SCCA Solo II competition.
>
>Let me open by stating that I am against the proposal for several reasons:
>
>1.)  Weight:  Current FF1600 cars competing in CM have approximately 110 
>hp (at best) with a minimum weight of 1100 lbs (assuming a current, 
>non-vintage engine) yielding a power/weight ratio of approximately 10 
>lb/HP.  (My FF1600 CM car has 109 HP and weights typically 1108 lbs after 
>competition, 10.16 lb/HP.)
>
>The current proposal is to allow the FF2000 cars to compete at 1310 
>lbs.  Per Tom Andresen at Andresen Engine Development and Dave Dixon 
>formerly of Dixon Performance, a national level FF2000/S2000 engine 
>produces approximately 140 HP at 6500 rpm.  The current proposal would 
>produce a power/weight ratio of 9.35 lb/HP, much better than the current 
>CM cars.
>
>To adjust the power/weight ratio to equalize the cars, the FF2000 car 
>minimum weight would need to be 1400 lbs w/ driver.  This is 120 lbs 
>higher than the current road racing minimum weight for this class of 
>car.  The two issues created with this weight is a) safe and proper 
>ballasting, and b) the chassis ability to safely sustain this 
>weight.  Vehicle structural integrity becomes suspect at these loads.  As 
>the vehicle load experienced in SCCA Solo II at some sites approaches and 
>equals the loading of road racing (I have recording documented 1.6+ 
>lateral G's in solo at some sites), the integrity issue cannot be 
>ignored.  Overall, the cars cannot be properly ballasted to equalize the 
>engine performance differences.
>------------------ snip ---------------------
>Thanks you for your time and your consideration in this matter......gmg
>
>Gary Godula
>'88 Reynard FF88
>SCCA CM/FF #57
>ggodula@ford.com

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