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Great question about the floors that I am also contemplating. I like seeing=
all the responses to the questions.=C2=A0
I did not know the answer but I found a good answer online that matched oth=
er responses from (I have no link/business to them) :=C2=A0www.muskegonbrak=
e.com
=C2=A0Converting to silicone brake fluid has pros and cons, all of which sh=
ould be considered before making the transition.. To start with, there are =
a few very good reasons to convert to DOT5 silicone brake fluid:=C2=A0 =20
- =C2=A0Silicone fluid is non-hydroscopic (it doesn=E2=80=99t attract or=
absorb water)
- =C2=A0It will not ruin paint (glycol fluid will remove paint)
- =C2=A0Silicone brake fluid has a higher dry boiling point than DOT3 an=
d DOT4 fluid, providing better, more rugged performance under pressure
- =C2=A0Silicone is a full synthetic fluid with superior lubrication pro=
perties for the pistons in the braking system (reduces wear on the seals an=
d pistons)
=C2=A0As great as all this sounds, there are a few drawbacks as well:=C2=A0=
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- Silicone brake fluid does not mix with water, so any water that enters=
the system will travel to the lowest point (low point in caliper ore line)
- It will not mix with glycol based DOT3, DOT4, or DOT5.1 fluids (can cr=
eate a gel, damaging braking system if mixed)
- Silicone brake fluid cannot be used in ABS braking systems
=C2=A0These drawbacks should be taken into consideration before you switch,=
to make sure that a) your auto's braking system is up for the conversion, =
and b) the conversion to silicone brake fluid is done properly to ensure no=
damage is done to the vehicle.=C2=A0The best time to convert to silicone b=
rake fluid is when you are replacing the major brake system components, esp=
ecially the master cylinder and calipers. =C2=A0Installing our Super Brake =
Kit is a great example. With the Super Brake Kit, you will replace all four=
calipers, rubber hoses, and the master cylinder, removing all brake fluid =
from the system and allowing for an easy conversion.=C2=A0When pouring sili=
cone brake fluid, do so slowly. =C2=A0DOT5 fluid has the ability to become =
aerated easily, which means that when handled quickly it can develop small =
bubbles. =C2=A0Pouring slowly to minimize splashing is best. Similarly, it =
has been suggested that if you uncap a bottle of DOT5 the day before you pl=
an to work on the vehicle, it will allow any trapped air bubbles to rise to=
the top and dissipate.=C2=A0When bleeding the brakes, use nice, even strok=
es to minimize the cavitation, which can create air bubbles. Alternatively,=
gravity bleeding is another way to reduce the amount of air bubbles in the=
system.=C2=A0Hope this helps.
JBLong live team 6pack!=20
On Wednesday, June 10, 2015 9:25 AM, Jim Jones via 6pack <6pack@autox.=
team.net> wrote:
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James:
These are not particularly rare cars (yet) so it's hard to make a case for =
the kind of repair this British car "artiste" is pushing. Objectively speak=
ing, this guy is so stubbornly set in his ways that I would walk away from =
him - no run!
I had a moment of truth like that with my car. It was there in plain sight =
when I drove 700 miles to buy it - fiberglass patch on the panel beneath th=
e battery. It was not exactly pristine correct but it was solid. I had to m=
ake a decision then, but I did buy it. After all the other work I did on th=
e car it was NOT an item that ever caused me concern. Frankly, if I was fac=
ed with doing that same repair I probably would have done the same thing.
What I'm saying here is that if you enjoy your car and are otherwise happy =
with it, save yourself some money and have it fixed in whatever way that ma=
kes sense. Like paint and modifications, repairs can be re-done by future o=
wners.
PS - Silicone fluid is just fantastic!=C2=A0
Jim Jones
From: James_ via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net>
To: "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net>=20
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 3:42 PM
Subject: [6pack] Floorpan replacement and Rust repair quote...
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ly:Calibri;}#yiv5169001218 Hi all=E2=80=A6
First=E2=80=A6.I am so depressed - I may sell the TR6 and walk away=E2=80=
=A6.seriously=E2=80=A6even after 22 years of my entire adult life.
I just met and got a quote from a guy that generally works on Austin Healey=
's=E2=80=A6and I gather he does very high end work=E2=80=A6.and accustom to=
people with deep pockets.So that was probably my mistake, but still is pro=
bably the best approach to have work done 100% thorough and correct.
First: I was told floor pans require the car body to be off the frame to re=
place.First overwhelming thought=E2=80=A6body of the car? ugh.
Second: I have a few bad spots of rust that need panels fabricated and weld=
ed. The worse is under the master cylinder and rust haseaten through the in=
ner and outer wheel arch. It affects the pedal box too.(I can send a pictur=
e if anyone is interested)
So the guy was really wanting the body removed, sand blasted, panels repair=
ed and powder coated.Sounds awesome. But it all gets down to time and money=
. a LOT of money and the rest of the year.Roughly, looking at $10-20K. for =
a TR6. yikes. Not sure I love the car that much. I know repairing old cars =
will ALWAYS cost more than a car is worth.I know that. Don't lecture about =
that. But...my rust is not a 'rust bucket' by any means. And for $20K I can=
=C2=A0find a car=C2=A0that=C2=A0comes close to showroom condition!!!
I guess I am so depressed / disappointed / overwhelmed / sad / hmmmm=E2=80=
=A6.what else=E2=80=A6
=E2=80=A6I am at a loss as to what to do. One option: Say screw it and live=
with the rotten areas, put the car back to gather and drive it.or:Sell the=
dang thing and walk away. Maybe I finally reached that "mercy=E2=80=A6merc=
y=E2=80=A6no more=E2=80=A6make it stop" stage.- I doubt I could bring mysel=
f to buy a TR6 again=E2=80=A6.I mean, what's the point. Mine isn't THAT awf=
ul and =C2=A0I know the history of THIS car.
Or:another option=E2=80=A6.(my original desire/thought) is to have the area=
s repaired and new floor boards installed by someone that does a really goo=
d welding job=C2=A0but not nearly as intense of a procedure=C2=A0or expensi=
ve. I know=E2=80=A6you get what you pay for.=C2=A0
This winter: I removed everything from the engine to detail it out and ever=
ything is ready to go back in once the rust was fixed and engine bay painte=
d.At this point, I may as well sell off all the PARTS - they'd be worth mor=
e they the car as a whole at this point. And everything is removed!(only ha=
lf kidding=E2=80=A6.)
Oh, one more thing=E2=80=A6.this guy is DEAD set against my thought of swit=
ching to Silicone brake fluid. I mean, DEAD set against and talking about w=
arranty being voided if I use it.I looked at him and said: "What Warranty i=
s that?" "It isn't like there is a dealership I can go to" "I buy parts, I =
put them on." I am the warranty department!He mentioned the warranty of the=
parts I buy from Moss, etc. hmmmm=E2=80=A6.They void it if the silicone fa=
lls the parts.Really? Moss SELLS Silicone brake fluid.=C2=A0I suspect all t=
his is because his DAD is against Silicone and he just follows what his dad=
hates.=C2=A0
I was recently curious why=C2=A0auto stores don't seem to carry DOT 5 Silic=
one as much as the other types. So now with this restoration guy's comments=
=E2=80=A6is Silicone THAT bad/poorly rated?
Well, any advice or words of comfort?
James
1976 TR6=C2=A0
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n id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433910730089_61994">Great question about the floors t=
hat I am also contemplating. I like seeing all the responses to the questio=
ns. </span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433910730089_61981" dir=3D"l=
tr"><span><br></span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433910730089_61981" dir=
=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433910730089_62328">I did not know the a=
nswer but I found a good answer online that matched other responses from (I=
have no link/business to them) : </span><span style=3D"color: rgb(0, =
102, 33); font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 16p=
x; white-space: nowrap;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433910730089_62533" class=3D""=
><a href=3D"http://www.muskegonbrake.com/"; id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433910730089=
_62531">www.muskegonbrake.c</a>om</span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_14339=
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: 18px;" class=3D"" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433910730089_62378"> Convertin=
g to silicone brake fluid has pros and cons, all of which should be conside=
red before making the transition.. To start with, there are a few very good=
reasons to convert to DOT5 silicone brake fluid:</div><div style=3D"margin=
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peat;" class=3D"" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433910730089_62376"> Silicone fl=
uid is non-hydroscopic (it doesn=E2=80=99t attract or absorb water)</li><li=
style=3D"margin: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 0px 25px; background-image: none; b=
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=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433910730089_62375"> It will not ruin paint (glycol =
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ilicone brake fluid has a higher dry boiling point than DOT3 and DOT4 fluid=
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"margin: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 0px 25px; background-image: none; background=
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s wear on the seals and pistons)</li></ul><div style=3D"margin: 0px; paddin=
g: 0px; font-family: 'Lucida Sans Unicode', 'Lucida Grande', Arial, Helveti=
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_16_0_1_1433910730089_62365">As great as all this sounds, there are a few d=
rawbacks as well:</div><div style=3D"margin: 0px; padding: 0px; font-family=
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rgin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: 'Lucida=
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position: 0px 0px; background-repeat: no-repeat;" class=3D"" id=3D"yui_3_16=
_0_1_1433910730089_62367">Silicone brake fluid does not mix with water, so =
any water that enters the system will travel to the lowest point (low point=
in caliper ore line)</li><li style=3D"margin: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 0px 25=
px; background-image: none; background-position: 0px 0px; background-repeat=
: no-repeat;" class=3D"" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433910730089_62368">It will no=
t mix with glycol based DOT3, DOT4, or DOT5.1 fluids (can create a gel, dam=
aging braking system if mixed)</li><li style=3D"margin: 0px; padding: 0px 0=
px 0px 25px; background-image: none; background-position: 0px 0px; backgrou=
nd-repeat: no-repeat;" class=3D"" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433910730089_62362">S=
ilicone brake fluid cannot be used in ABS braking systems</li></ul><div sty=
le=3D"margin: 0px; padding: 0px; font-family: 'Lucida Sans Unicode', 'Lucid=
a Grande', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-size:=
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;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433910730089_62333" class=3D"">These drawbacks shoul=
d be taken into consideration before you switch, to make sure that a) your =
auto's braking system is up for the conversion, and b) the conversion to si=
licone brake fluid is done properly to ensure no damage is done to the vehi=
cle.</div><div style=3D"margin: 0px; padding: 0px; font-family: 'Lucida San=
s Unicode', 'Lucida Grande', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 5=
1, 51); font-size: 12.1599998474121px; line-height: 18px;" class=3D"" id=3D=
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lvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-size: 12.1599998474121px;=
line-height: 18px;" class=3D"" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433910730089_62357">The=
best time to convert to silicone brake fluid is when you are replacing the=
major brake system components, especially the master cylinder and calipers=
. Installing our Super Brake Kit is a great example. With the Super B=
rake Kit, you will replace all four calipers, rubber hoses, and the master =
cylinder, removing all brake fluid from the system and allowing for an easy=
conversion.</div><div style=3D"margin: 0px; padding: 0px; font-family: 'Lu=
cida Sans Unicode', 'Lucida Grande', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; color: r=
gb(51, 51, 51); font-size: 12.1599998474121px; line-height: 18px;" class=3D=
"" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433910730089_62370"> </div><div style=3D"margin=
: 0px; padding: 0px; font-family: 'Lucida Sans Unicode', 'Lucida Grande', A=
rial, Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-size: 12.15999984=
74121px; line-height: 18px;" class=3D"" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433910730089_62=
371">When pouring silicone brake fluid, do so slowly. DOT5 fluid has =
the ability to become aerated easily, which means that when handled quickly=
it can develop small bubbles. Pouring slowly to minimize splashing i=
s best. Similarly, it has been suggested that if you uncap a bottle of DOT5=
the day before you plan to work on the vehicle, it will allow any trapped =
air bubbles to rise to the top and dissipate.</div><div style=3D"margin: 0p=
x; padding: 0px; font-family: 'Lucida Sans Unicode', 'Lucida Grande', Arial=
, Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-size: 12.159999847412=
1px; line-height: 18px;" class=3D"" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433910730089_62358"=
> </div><div style=3D"margin: 0px; padding: 0px; font-family: 'Lucida =
Sans Unicode', 'Lucida Grande', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(51=
, 51, 51); font-size: 12.1599998474121px; line-height: 18px;" class=3D"" id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433910730089_62359">When bleeding the brakes, use nice, e=
ven strokes to minimize the cavitation, which can create air bubbles. Alter=
natively, gravity bleeding is another way to reduce the amount of air bubbl=
es in the system.</div><div style=3D"margin: 0px; padding: 0px; font-family=
: 'Lucida Sans Unicode', 'Lucida Grande', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; col=
or: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-size: 12.1599998474121px; line-height: 18px;" dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433910730089_62360"> </div><di=
v id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433910730089_61981" dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_=
0_1_1433910730089_62795">Hope this helps.</span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0=
_1_1433910730089_61981" dir=3D"ltr"><span><br></span></div><div id=3D"yui_3=
_16_0_1_1433910730089_61981" dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_143391073=
0089_62796">JB</span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433910730089_61981" dir=
=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433910730089_62169">Long live team 6pack=
!</span></div> <br><div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class=
=3D"yahoo_quoted" style=3D"display: block;"> <div style=3D"font-family: Hel=
veticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; fo=
nt-size: 16px;"> <div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, =
Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir=3D=
"ltr"> <font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> On Wednesday, June 10, 2015 9:25 AM=
, Jim Jones via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> wrote:<br> </font> </div=
> <br><br> <div class=3D"y_msg_container"><div id=3D"yiv5169001218"><div><=
div style=3D"color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, He=
lvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;">=
<div id=3D"yiv5169001218yui_3_16_0_1_1433943627347_23991"><span id=3D"yiv51=
69001218yui_3_16_0_1_1433943627347_24298">James:</span></div><div id=3D"yiv=
5169001218yui_3_16_0_1_1433943627347_23990"><span><br clear=3D"none"></span=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv5169001218yui_3_16_0_1_1433943627347_23982=
">These are not particularly rare cars (yet) so it's hard to make a case fo=
r the kind of repair this British car "artiste" is pushing. Objectively spe=
aking, this guy is so stubbornly set in his ways that I would walk away fro=
m him - no run!<span><br clear=3D"none"></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D=
"yiv5169001218yui_3_16_0_1_1433943627347_23982"><br clear=3D"none"></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv5169001218yui_3_16_0_1_1433943627347_23982"><span i=
d=3D"yiv5169001218yui_3_16_0_1_1433943627347_23981">I had a moment of truth=
like that with my car. It was there in plain sight when I drove 700 miles =
to buy it - fiberglass patch on the panel beneath the battery. It was not e=
xactly pristine correct but it was solid. I had to make a decision then, bu=
t I did buy it. After all the other work I did on the car it was NOT an ite=
m that ever caused me concern. Frankly, if I was faced with doing that same=
repair I probably would have done the same thing.</span></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr" id=3D"yiv5169001218yui_3_16_0_1_1433943627347_23982"><span><br clear=
=3D"none"></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv5169001218yui_3_16_0_1_143=
3943627347_23982">What I'm saying here is that if you enjoy your car and ar=
e otherwise happy with it, save yourself some money and have it fixed in wh=
atever way that makes sense. Like paint and modifications, repairs can be r=
e-done by future owners.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv5169001218yui_3_16_=
0_1_1433943627347_23982"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yi=
v5169001218yui_3_16_0_1_1433943627347_23982">PS - Silicone fluid is just fa=
ntastic!</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv5169001218yui_3_16_0_1_143394362734=
7_23982"> <br clear=3D"none"></div><div id=3D"yiv5169001218yui_3_16_0_=
1_1433943627347_23938"><div id=3D"yiv5169001218yui_3_16_0_1_1433943627347_2=
3937">Jim Jones
<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></div></div><br clear=3D"none"> <div=
id=3D"yiv5169001218yui_3_16_0_1_1433943627347_24278" style=3D"font-family:=
HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;=
font-size:16px;"> <div id=3D"yiv5169001218yui_3_16_0_1_1433943627347_24277"=
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ui_3_16_0_1_1433943627347_24289" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> <b><span style=
=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> James_ via 6pack <6pack@autox.te=
am.net><br clear=3D"none"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">To:</spa=
n></b> "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net> <br clear=3D"non=
e"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, June 9, =
2015 3:42 PM<br clear=3D"none"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">Subjec=
t:</span></b> [6pack] Floorpan replacement and Rust repair quote...<br clea=
r=3D"none"> </font> </div> <div class=3D"yiv5169001218y_msg_container" id=
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<div id=3D"yiv5169001218yui_3_16_0_1_1433943627347_24281"><div dir=3D"ltr" =
id=3D"yiv5169001218yui_3_16_0_1_1433943627347_24280"><div id=3D"yiv51690012=
18yui_3_16_0_1_1433943627347_24286">Hi all=E2=80=A6</div><div id=3D"yiv5169=
001218yui_3_16_0_1_1433943627347_24285"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div id=3D=
"yiv5169001218yui_3_16_0_1_1433943627347_24284">First=E2=80=A6.<span id=3D"=
yiv5169001218yui_3_16_0_1_1433943627347_24283" style=3D"font-size:12pt;">I =
am so depressed - I may sell the TR6 and walk away=E2=80=A6.seriously=E2=80=
=A6even after 22 years of my entire adult life.</span></div><div id=3D"yiv5=
169001218yui_3_16_0_1_1433943627347_24279"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div id=
=3D"yiv5169001218yui_3_16_0_1_1433943627347_24491">I just met and got a quo=
te from a guy that generally works on Austin Healey's=E2=80=A6and I gather =
he does very high end work=E2=80=A6.and accustom to people with deep pocket=
s.</div><div id=3D"yiv5169001218yui_3_16_0_1_1433943627347_24516">So that w=
as probably my mistake, but still is probably the best approach to have wor=
k done 100% thorough and correct.</div><div id=3D"yiv5169001218yui_3_16_0_1=
_1433943627347_24451"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div id=3D"yiv5169001218yui_=
3_16_0_1_1433943627347_24450">First: I was told floor pans require the car =
body to be off the frame to replace.</div><div id=3D"yiv5169001218yui_3_16_=
0_1_1433943627347_24484">First overwhelming thought=E2=80=A6body of the car=
? ugh.</div><div id=3D"yiv5169001218yui_3_16_0_1_1433943627347_24490"><br c=
lear=3D"none"></div><div id=3D"yiv5169001218yui_3_16_0_1_1433943627347_2448=
5">Second: I have a few bad spots of rust that need panels fabricated and w=
elded. The worse is under the master cylinder and rust has</div><div id=3D"=
yiv5169001218yui_3_16_0_1_1433943627347_24448">eaten through the inner and =
outer wheel arch. It affects the pedal box too.</div><div>(I can send a pic=
ture if anyone is interested)</div><div id=3D"yiv5169001218yui_3_16_0_1_143=
3943627347_24483"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>So the guy was really wanti=
ng the body removed, sand blasted, panels repaired and powder coated.</div>=
<div id=3D"yiv5169001218yui_3_16_0_1_1433943627347_24486">Sounds awesome. B=
ut it all gets down to time and money. a LOT of money and the rest of the y=
ear.</div><div id=3D"yiv5169001218yui_3_16_0_1_1433943627347_24487">Roughly=
, looking at $10-20K. for a TR6. yikes. Not sure I love the car that much. =
I know repairing old cars will ALWAYS cost more than a car is worth.</div><=
div id=3D"yiv5169001218yui_3_16_0_1_1433943627347_24489">I know that. Don't=
lecture about that. But...<span id=3D"yiv5169001218yui_3_16_0_1_1433943627=
347_24488" style=3D"font-size:12pt;">my rust is not a 'rust bucket' by any =
means. And for $20K I can </span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;">find =
a car</span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;"> that </span><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:12pt;">comes close to showroom condition!!!</span></div><d=
iv><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>I guess I am so depressed / disappointed /=
overwhelmed / sad / hmmmm=E2=80=A6.what else=E2=80=A6</div><div><br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div id=3D"yiv5169001218yui_3_16_0_1_1433943627347_24452">=
=E2=80=A6I am at a loss as to what to do. One option: Say screw it and live=
with the rotten areas, put the car back to gather and drive it.</div><div =
id=3D"yiv5169001218yui_3_16_0_1_1433943627347_24482"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:12pt;">or:</span></div><div>Sell the dang thing and walk away. Maybe I f=
inally reached that "mercy=E2=80=A6mercy=E2=80=A6no more=E2=80=A6make it st=
op" stage.</div><div>- I doubt I could bring myself to buy a TR6 again=E2=
=80=A6.I mean, what's the point. Mine isn't THAT awful and <span styl=
e=3D"font-size:12pt;">I know the history of THIS car.</span></div><div id=
=3D"yiv5169001218yui_3_16_0_1_1433943627347_24455"><span style=3D"font-size=
:12pt;"><br clear=3D"none"></span></div><div id=3D"yiv5169001218yui_3_16_0_=
1_1433943627347_24454"><div id=3D"yiv5169001218yui_3_16_0_1_1433943627347_2=
4453">Or:</div><div>another option=E2=80=A6.(my original desire/thought) is=
to have the areas repaired and new floor boards installed by someone that =
does a really good welding job </div><div>but not nearly as intense of=
a procedure <font size=3D"3">or expensive. I know</font>=E2=80=A6<fon=
t size=3D"3">you get what you pay for. </font></div></div><div><font s=
ize=3D"3"><br clear=3D"none"></font></div><div>This winter: I removed every=
thing from the engine to detail it out and everything is ready to go back i=
n once the rust was fixed and engine bay painted.</div><div>At this point, =
I may as well sell off all the PARTS - they'd be worth more they the car as=
a whole at this point. And everything is removed!</div><div>(only half kid=
ding=E2=80=A6.)</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div><br clear=3D"none">=
</div><div>Oh, one more thing=E2=80=A6.</div><div id=3D"yiv5169001218yui_3_=
16_0_1_1433943627347_24481">this guy is DEAD set against my thought of swit=
ching to Silicone brake fluid. I mean, DEAD set against and talking about w=
arranty being voided if I use it.</div><div>I looked at him and said: "What=
Warranty is that?" "It isn't like there is a dealership I can go to" "I bu=
y parts, I put them on." I am the warranty department!</div><div>He mention=
ed the warranty of the parts I buy from Moss, etc. hmmmm=E2=80=A6.They void=
it if the silicone falls the parts.</div><div>Really? Moss SELLS Silicone =
brake fluid. </div><div>I suspect all this is because his DAD is again=
st Silicone and he just follows what his dad hates. </div><div id=3D"y=
iv5169001218yui_3_16_0_1_1433943627347_24480"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div=
id=3D"yiv5169001218yui_3_16_0_1_1433943627347_24457">I was recently curiou=
s why <font id=3D"yiv5169001218yui_3_16_0_1_1433943627347_24456" size=
=3D"3">auto stores don't seem to carry DOT 5 Silicone as much as the other =
types. So now with this restoration guy's comments</font>=E2=80=A6<font id=
=3D"yiv5169001218yui_3_16_0_1_1433943627347_24458" size=3D"3">is Silicone T=
HAT bad/poorly rated?</font></div><div id=3D"yiv5169001218yui_3_16_0_1_1433=
943627347_24459"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div id=3D"yiv5169001218yui_3_16_=
0_1_1433943627347_24477">Well, any advice or words of comfort?</div><div id=
=3D"yiv5169001218yui_3_16_0_1_1433943627347_24478"><br clear=3D"none"></div=
><div id=3D"yiv5169001218yui_3_16_0_1_1433943627347_24479">James</div><div>=
<br clear=3D"none"></div><div>1976 TR6 </div><div><br clear=3D"none"><=
/div> =09=09 =09 =09=09 </div></div>
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