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Hi James,=20
I'm in the same boat needing to replace my drivers side floorpan. I started=
investigating as well and at first was pretty discouraged by the cost and =
recommended approach of pulling the body off. I spent some more time resear=
ching and made a few calls and found other opinions and options. Granted my=
car is not perfect nor will it every be and I don't plan to show it. I wan=
t it safe and drive able.=20
What I found is you can replace the floorpan with the body on, some people =
even just replace the front half of the floorpan or just patch it and other=
s use products like POR-15. Depends on the final result you are looking for=
and what you consider acceptable. I am going the route of replacing the wh=
ole floorpan and have stripped everything down so I can see where the previ=
ous welds are for when I cut it. I found some good posts and pictures on th=
e process.=20
I've done some welding in the past so I may tackle that myself or just hire=
a professional. The quotes so far are few hundred dollars assuming I have =
all the prep done and everything ready to. They are mobile welders and basi=
cally just show up and do the welding and some basic adjustments. Can speak=
for the quality of work at this point but from what I understand for a sea=
soned welder this is not a tough job as long as the fit is good. I attached=
a forum post below I found useful.=20
By the way pulling the body off and sand blasting does sound awesome and ul=
timately would be fantastic if I had more time and money.=20
Chris=20
http://www.triumphexp.com/phorum/read.php?6,868323=20
----- Original Message -----
From: "James_ via 6pack" <6pack@autox.team.net>=20
To: "James_" <jattr6@hotmail.com>=20
Cc: 6pack@autox.team.net=20
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 2:46:13 PM=20
Subject: Re: [6pack] Floorpan replacement and Rust repair quote...=20
One thought I have is to locate a good inner well arch for drivers side or =
at least the flat triangle section to cut out and use that to replace my ba=
d corner. It is the worse of the rust=20
The. The floor pan issue. They are shot!=20
If I could get it all fixed for say under $4k I'd be happy.=20
Well,=20
I have two other places to call.=20
If I sold the car I know I would not be able to buy a different one. Probab=
ly just flat out done with classic cars. I'll probably need therapy over th=
e=20
Mere sight of classic cars now! Hah.=20
=E2=80=94Sent from my Atari 2600=E2=80=94=20
On Jun 9, 2015, at 1:55 PM, "James_ via 6pack" < 6pack@autox.team.net > wro=
te:=20
Hi all=E2=80=A6=20
First=E2=80=A6. I am so depressed - I may sell the TR6 and walk away=E2=80=
=A6.seriously=E2=80=A6even after 22 years of my entire adult life.=20
I just met and got a quote from a guy that generally works on Austin Healey=
's=E2=80=A6and I gather he does very high end work=E2=80=A6.and accustom to=
people with deep pockets.=20
So that was probably my mistake, but still is probably the best approach to=
have work done 100% thorough and correct.=20
First: I was told floor pans require the car body to be off the frame to re=
place.=20
First overwhelming thought=E2=80=A6body of the car? ugh.=20
Second: I have a few bad spots of rust that need panels fabricated and weld=
ed. The worse is under the master cylinder and rust has=20
eaten through the inner and outer wheel arch. It affects the pedal box too.=
=20
(I can send a picture if anyone is interested)=20
So the guy was really wanting the body removed, sand blasted, panels repair=
ed and powder coated.=20
Sounds awesome. But it all gets down to time and money. a LOT of money and =
the rest of the year.=20
Roughly, looking at $10-20K. for a TR6. yikes. Not sure I love the car that=
much. I know repairing old cars will ALWAYS cost more than a car is worth.=
=20
I know that. Don't lecture about that. But... my rust is not a 'rust bucket=
' by any means. And for $20K I can find a car that comes close to showroom =
condition!!!=20
I guess I am so depressed / disappointed / overwhelmed / sad / hmmmm=E2=80=
=A6.what else=E2=80=A6=20
=E2=80=A6I am at a loss as to what to do. One option: Say screw it and live=
with the rotten areas, put the car back to gather and drive it.=20
or:=20
Sell the dang thing and walk away. Maybe I finally reached that "mercy=E2=
=80=A6mercy=E2=80=A6no more=E2=80=A6make it stop" stage.=20
- I doubt I could bring myself to buy a TR6 again=E2=80=A6.I mean, what's t=
he point. Mine isn't THAT awful and I know the history of THIS car.=20
Or:=20
another option=E2=80=A6.(my original desire/thought) is to have the areas r=
epaired and new floor boards installed by someone that does a really good w=
elding job=20
but not nearly as intense of a procedure or expensive. I know =E2=80=A6 you=
get what you pay for.=20
This winter: I removed everything from the engine to detail it out and ever=
ything is ready to go back in once the rust was fixed and engine bay painte=
d.=20
At this point, I may as well sell off all the PARTS - they'd be worth more =
they the car as a whole at this point. And everything is removed!=20
(only half kidding=E2=80=A6.)=20
Oh, one more thing=E2=80=A6.=20
this guy is DEAD set against my thought of switching to Silicone brake flui=
d. I mean, DEAD set against and talking about warranty being voided if I us=
e it.=20
I looked at him and said: "What Warranty is that?" "It isn't like there is =
a dealership I can go to" "I buy parts, I put them on." I am the warranty d=
epartment!=20
He mentioned the warranty of the parts I buy from Moss, etc. hmmmm=E2=80=A6=
.They void it if the silicone falls the parts.=20
Really? Moss SELLS Silicone brake fluid.=20
I suspect all this is because his DAD is against Silicone and he just follo=
ws what his dad hates.=20
I was recently curious why auto stores don't seem to carry DOT 5 Silicone a=
s much as the other types. So now with this restoration guy's comments =E2=
=80=A6 is Silicone THAT bad/poorly rated?=20
Well, any advice or words of comfort?=20
James=20
1976 TR6=20
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<html><body><div style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #0000=
00"><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">Hi James,</div><div aria-label=3D"Comp=
ose body"><br></div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">I'm in the same boat n=
eeding to replace my drivers side floorpan. I started investigating a=
s well and at first was pretty discouraged by the cost and recommended appr=
oach of pulling the body off. I spent some more time researching and made a=
few calls and found other opinions and options. Granted my car is no=
t perfect nor will it every be and I don't plan to show it. I want it=
safe and drive able.</div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body"><br></div><div =
aria-label=3D"Compose body">What I found is you can replace the floorpan wi=
th the body on, some people even just replace the front half of the floorpa=
n or just patch it and others use products like POR-15. Depends on the fina=
l result you are looking for and what you consider acceptable. I am going t=
he route of replacing the whole floorpan and have stripped everything down =
so I can see where the previous welds are for when I cut it. I found some g=
ood posts and pictures on the process.</div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body=
"><br></div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">I've done some welding in the =
past so I may tackle that myself or just hire a professional. The quo=
tes so far are few hundred dollars assuming I have all the prep done and ev=
erything ready to. They are mobile welders and basically just show up and d=
o the welding and some basic adjustments. Can speak for the quality of work=
at this point but from what I understand for a seasoned welder this is not=
a tough job as long as the fit is good. I attached a forum post belo=
w I found useful.</div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body"><br></div><div aria=
-label=3D"Compose body">By the way pulling the body off and sand blasting d=
oes sound awesome and ultimately would be fantastic if I had more time and =
money.</div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body"><br></div><div aria-label=3D"C=
ompose body">Chris</div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body"><br></div><div ari=
a-label=3D"Compose body"><a href=3D"http://www.triumphexp.com/phorum/read.p=
hp?6,868323">http://www.triumphexp.com/phorum/read.php?6,868323</a></div><d=
iv aria-label=3D"Compose body"><br></div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body"><=
br></div><div><br></div><hr id=3D"zwchr"><div style=3D"color:#000;font-weig=
ht:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Aria=
l,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;" data-mce-style=3D"color: #000; font-weight: n=
ormal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica,Ar=
ial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><b>From: </b>"James_ via 6pack" <6pack=
@autox.team.net><br><b>To: </b>"James_" <jattr6@hotmail.com><br><b=
>Cc: </b>6pack@autox.team.net<br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, June 9, 2015 2:46:13=
PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [6pack] Floorpan replacement and Rust repair quo=
te...<br><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>One thought I have is to locate=
a good inner well arch for drivers side or at least the flat triangle sect=
ion to cut out and use that to replace my bad corner. It is the worse of th=
e rust</div><div><br></div><div>The. The floor pan issue. They are shot!</d=
iv><div><br></div><div>If I could get it all fixed for say under $4k I'd be=
happy. </div><div>Well,</div><div>I have two other places to call.&nb=
sp;</div><div><br></div><div>If I sold the car I know I would not be able t=
o buy a different one. Probably just flat out done with classic cars. I'll =
probably need therapy over the</div><div>Mere sight of classic cars now! Ha=
h. </div><div><br><div><br></div>=E2=80=94Sent from my Atari 2600=E2=
=80=94</div><div><br>On Jun 9, 2015, at 1:55 PM, "James_ via 6pack" <<a =
href=3D"mailto:6pack@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mai=
lto:6pack@autox.team.net">6pack@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br><div><br><=
/div></div><blockquote><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi all=E2=80=A6</div><div=
><br></div><div>First=E2=80=A6.<span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;" data-mce-st=
yle=3D"font-size: 12pt;">I am so depressed - I may sell the TR6 and walk aw=
ay=E2=80=A6.seriously=E2=80=A6even after 22 years of my entire adult life.<=
/span></div><div><br></div><div>I just met and got a quote from a guy that =
generally works on Austin Healey's=E2=80=A6and I gather he does very high e=
nd work=E2=80=A6.and accustom to people with deep pockets.</div><div>So tha=
t was probably my mistake, but still is probably the best approach to have =
work done 100% thorough and correct.</div><div><br></div><div>First: I was =
told floor pans require the car body to be off the frame to replace.</div><=
div>First overwhelming thought=E2=80=A6body of the car? ugh.</div><div><br>=
</div><div>Second: I have a few bad spots of rust that need panels fabricat=
ed and welded. The worse is under the master cylinder and rust has</div><di=
v>eaten through the inner and outer wheel arch. It affects the pedal box to=
o.</div><div>(I can send a picture if anyone is interested)</div><div><br><=
/div><div>So the guy was really wanting the body removed, sand blasted, pan=
els repaired and powder coated.</div><div>Sounds awesome. But it all gets d=
own to time and money. a LOT of money and the rest of the year.</div><div>R=
oughly, looking at $10-20K. for a TR6. yikes. Not sure I love the car that =
much. I know repairing old cars will ALWAYS cost more than a car is worth.<=
/div><div>I know that. Don't lecture about that. But...<span style=3D"font-=
size: 12pt;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">my rust is not a 'rust buc=
ket' by any means. And for $20K I can </span><span style=3D"font-size:=
12pt;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">find a car</span><span style=3D=
"font-size: 12pt;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 12pt;"> that </sp=
an><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">com=
es close to showroom condition!!!</span></div><div><br></div><div>I guess I=
am so depressed / disappointed / overwhelmed / sad / hmmmm=E2=80=A6.what e=
lse=E2=80=A6</div><div><br></div><div>=E2=80=A6I am at a loss as to what to=
do. One option: Say screw it and live with the rotten areas, put the car b=
ack to gather and drive it.</div><div><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;" data=
-mce-style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">or:</span></div><div>Sell the dang thing an=
d walk away. Maybe I finally reached that "mercy=E2=80=A6mercy=E2=80=A6no m=
ore=E2=80=A6make it stop" stage.</div><div>- I doubt I could bring myself t=
o buy a TR6 again=E2=80=A6.I mean, what's the point. Mine isn't THAT awful =
and <span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 12p=
t;">I know the history of THIS car.</span></div><div><span style=3D"font-si=
ze: 12pt;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 12pt;"><br></span></div><div><div>O=
r:</div><div>another option=E2=80=A6.(my original desire/thought) is to hav=
e the areas repaired and new floor boards installed by someone that does a =
really good welding job </div><div>but not nearly as intense of a proc=
edure <span size=3D"3" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: medium;" style=3D"=
font-size: medium;">or expensive. I know</span>=E2=80=A6<span size=3D"3" da=
ta-mce-style=3D"font-size: medium;" style=3D"font-size: medium;">you get wh=
at you pay for. </span></div></div><div><span size=3D"3" data-mce-styl=
e=3D"font-size: medium;" style=3D"font-size: medium;"><br></span></div><div=
>This winter: I removed everything from the engine to detail it out and eve=
rything is ready to go back in once the rust was fixed and engine bay paint=
ed.</div><div>At this point, I may as well sell off all the PARTS - they'd =
be worth more they the car as a whole at this point. And everything is remo=
ved!</div><div>(only half kidding=E2=80=A6.)</div><div><br></div><div><br><=
/div><div>Oh, one more thing=E2=80=A6.</div><div>this guy is DEAD set again=
st my thought of switching to Silicone brake fluid. I mean, DEAD set agains=
t and talking about warranty being voided if I use it.</div><div>I looked a=
t him and said: "What Warranty is that?" "It isn't like there is a dealersh=
ip I can go to" "I buy parts, I put them on." I am the warranty department!=
</div><div>He mentioned the warranty of the parts I buy from Moss, etc. hmm=
mm=E2=80=A6.They void it if the silicone falls the parts.</div><div>Really?=
Moss SELLS Silicone brake fluid. </div><div>I suspect all this is bec=
ause his DAD is against Silicone and he just follows what his dad hates.&nb=
sp;</div><div><br></div><div>I was recently curious why <span size=3D"=
3" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: medium;" style=3D"font-size: medium;">auto =
stores don't seem to carry DOT 5 Silicone as much as the other types. So no=
w with this restoration guy's comments</span>=E2=80=A6<span size=3D"3" data=
-mce-style=3D"font-size: medium;" style=3D"font-size: medium;">is Silicone =
THAT bad/poorly rated?</span></div><div><br></div><div>Well, any advice or =
words of comfort?</div><div><br></div><div>James</div><div><br></div><div>1=
976 TR6 </div><div><br></div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote><div=
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