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I will not comment on the rust... but I have been running silicon for over =
20 years and had no issues. when i first switched over i completely rebuilt=
everything including new stainless brake lines. I am also running silicon =
in the clutch. Did have to replace the master cylinder about 5 years back, =
but I see no difference at all and had no unusual problems. I even used to =
autocross a couple of times a year.
Robert=C2=A074TR6
From: alan salvatore via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net>
To: James_ <jattr6@hotmail.com>=20
Cc: 6pack@autox.team.net=20
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 6:40 PM
Subject: Re: [6pack] Floorpan replacement and Rust repair quote...
=20
If the outer edges of the floor pan is good then you can cut and patch in a=
new floor pan.
If not then tub off.
If inner rocker is bad, tub off.
Depends on where the bad area is.
I am doing one now that had a small area but it ran under the firewall and =
the frame was also in the way. Plus I wanted to blast the frame, so we took=
the body off.
I can see 10K with paint for floors, battery box, would have to see inner f=
ender.
I have been putting silicone in every TR6 that crosses my path for the last=
15 years.
AlOn Jun 9, 2015 4:55 PM, "James_ via 6pack" <6pack@autox.team.net> wrote:
Hi all=E2=80=A6
First=E2=80=A6.I am so depressed - I may sell the TR6 and walk away=E2=80=
=A6.seriously=E2=80=A6even after 22 years of my entire adult life.
I just met and got a quote from a guy that generally works on Austin Healey=
's=E2=80=A6and I gather he does very high end work=E2=80=A6.and accustom to=
people with deep pockets.So that was probably my mistake, but still is pro=
bably the best approach to have work done 100% thorough and correct.
First: I was told floor pans require the car body to be off the frame to re=
place.First overwhelming thought=E2=80=A6body of the car? ugh.
Second: I have a few bad spots of rust that need panels fabricated and weld=
ed. The worse is under the master cylinder and rust haseaten through the in=
ner and outer wheel arch. It affects the pedal box too.(I can send a pictur=
e if anyone is interested)
So the guy was really wanting the body removed, sand blasted, panels repair=
ed and powder coated.Sounds awesome. But it all gets down to time and money=
. a LOT of money and the rest of the year.Roughly, looking at $10-20K. for =
a TR6. yikes. Not sure I love the car that much. I know repairing old cars =
will ALWAYS cost more than a car is worth.I know that. Don't lecture about =
that. But...my rust is not a 'rust bucket' by any means. And for $20K I can=
=C2=A0find a car=C2=A0that=C2=A0comes close to showroom condition!!!
I guess I am so depressed / disappointed / overwhelmed / sad / hmmmm=E2=80=
=A6.what else=E2=80=A6
=E2=80=A6I am at a loss as to what to do. One option: Say screw it and live=
with the rotten areas, put the car back to gather and drive it.or:Sell the=
dang thing and walk away. Maybe I finally reached that "mercy=E2=80=A6merc=
y=E2=80=A6no more=E2=80=A6make it stop" stage.- I doubt I could bring mysel=
f to buy a TR6 again=E2=80=A6.I mean, what's the point. Mine isn't THAT awf=
ul and =C2=A0I know the history of THIS car.
Or:another option=E2=80=A6.(my original desire/thought) is to have the area=
s repaired and new floor boards installed by someone that does a really goo=
d welding job=C2=A0but not nearly as intense of a procedure=C2=A0or expensi=
ve. I know=E2=80=A6you get what you pay for.=C2=A0
This winter: I removed everything from the engine to detail it out and ever=
ything is ready to go back in once the rust was fixed and engine bay painte=
d.At this point, I may as well sell off all the PARTS - they'd be worth mor=
e they the car as a whole at this point. And everything is removed!(only ha=
lf kidding=E2=80=A6.)
Oh, one more thing=E2=80=A6.this guy is DEAD set against my thought of swit=
ching to Silicone brake fluid. I mean, DEAD set against and talking about w=
arranty being voided if I use it.I looked at him and said: "What Warranty i=
s that?" "It isn't like there is a dealership I can go to" "I buy parts, I =
put them on." I am the warranty department!He mentioned the warranty of the=
parts I buy from Moss, etc. hmmmm=E2=80=A6.They void it if the silicone fa=
lls the parts.Really? Moss SELLS Silicone brake fluid.=C2=A0I suspect all t=
his is because his DAD is against Silicone and he just follows what his dad=
hates.=C2=A0
I was recently curious why=C2=A0auto stores don't seem to carry DOT 5 Silic=
one as much as the other types. So now with this restoration guy's comments=
=E2=80=A6is Silicone THAT bad/poorly rated?
Well, any advice or words of comfort?
James
1976 TR6=C2=A0
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:He=
lveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:16px"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433894401277_39542" dir=3D"ltr"><spa=
n id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433894401277_39541">I will not comment on the rust...=
but I have been running silicon for over 20 years and had no issues. when =
i first switched over i completely rebuilt everything including new stainle=
ss brake lines. I am also running silicon in the clutch. Did have to replac=
e the master cylinder about 5 years back, but I see no difference at all an=
d had no unusual problems. I even used to autocross a couple of times a yea=
r.</span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433894401277_39542" dir=3D"ltr"><sp=
an><br></span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433894401277_39542" dir=3D"ltr=
"><span>Robert </span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433894401277_3954=
2" dir=3D"ltr"><span>74TR6</span></div><br> <div style=3D"font-family: Hel=
veticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; fo=
nt-size: 16px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433894401277_39622"> <div style=3D"font=
-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sa=
ns-serif; font-size: 16px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433894401277_39621"> <div d=
ir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433894401277_39620"> <hr size=3D"1" id=3D"yu=
i_3_16_0_1_1433894401277_39624"> <font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial" id=3D"yui=
_3_16_0_1_1433894401277_39623"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:<=
/span></b> alan salvatore via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net><br> <b><sp=
an style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> James_ <jattr6@hotmail.co=
m> <br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> 6pack@autox.=
team.net <br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesda=
y, June 9, 2015 6:40 PM<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:<=
/span></b> Re: [6pack] Floorpan replacement and Rust repair quote...<br> </=
font> </div> <div class=3D"y_msg_container" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_143389440127=
7_39652"><br><div id=3D"yiv1389098489"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_143389440127=
7_39651"><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433894401277_39650">If the ou=
ter edges of the floor pan is good then you can cut and patch in a new floo=
r pan.<br clear=3D"none">
If not then tub off.<br clear=3D"none">
If inner rocker is bad, tub off.<br clear=3D"none">
Depends on where the bad area is.<br clear=3D"none">
I am doing one now that had a small area but it ran under the firewall and =
the frame was also in the way. Plus I wanted to blast the frame, so we took=
the body off.<br clear=3D"none">
I can see 10K with paint for floors, battery box, would have to see inner f=
ender.<br clear=3D"none">
I have been putting silicone in every TR6 that crosses my path for the last=
15 years.<br clear=3D"none">
Al</div>
<div class=3D"yiv1389098489gmail_quote" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433894401277_39=
653">On Jun 9, 2015 4:55 PM, "James_ via 6pack" <<a rel=3D"nofollow" sha=
pe=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:6pack@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" href=
=3D"mailto:6pack@autox.team.net";>6pack@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br cle=
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<div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class=3D"yiv1389098489yqt38=
70643566" id=3D"yiv1389098489yqt46978"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_143389440127=
7_39656"><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433894401277_39655"><div id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433894401277_39654">Hi all=E2=80=A6</div><div id=3D"yui_3=
_16_0_1_1433894401277_39658"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0=
_1_1433894401277_39659">First=E2=80=A6.<span style=3D"font-size:12pt;">I am=
so depressed - I may sell the TR6 and walk away=E2=80=A6.seriously=E2=80=
=A6even after 22 years of my entire adult life.</span></div><div><br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div>I just met and got a quote from a guy that generally w=
orks on Austin Healey's=E2=80=A6and I gather he does very high end work=E2=
=80=A6.and accustom to people with deep pockets.</div><div>So that was prob=
ably my mistake, but still is probably the best approach to have work done =
100% thorough and correct.</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>First: I=
was told floor pans require the car body to be off the frame to replace.</=
div><div>First overwhelming thought=E2=80=A6body of the car? ugh.</div><div=
><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Second: I have a few bad spots of rust that =
need panels fabricated and welded. The worse is under the master cylinder a=
nd rust has</div><div>eaten through the inner and outer wheel arch. It affe=
cts the pedal box too.</div><div>(I can send a picture if anyone is interes=
ted)</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>So the guy was really wanting =
the body removed, sand blasted, panels repaired and powder coated.</div><di=
v>Sounds awesome. But it all gets down to time and money. a LOT of money an=
d the rest of the year.</div><div>Roughly, looking at $10-20K. for a TR6. y=
ikes. Not sure I love the car that much. I know repairing old cars will ALW=
AYS cost more than a car is worth.</div><div>I know that. Don't lecture abo=
ut that. But...<span style=3D"font-size:12pt;">my rust is not a 'rust bucke=
t' by any means. And for $20K I can </span><span style=3D"font-size:12=
pt;">find a car</span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;"> that </spa=
n><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;">comes close to showroom condition!!!</spa=
n></div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>I guess I am so depressed / disa=
ppointed / overwhelmed / sad / hmmmm=E2=80=A6.what else=E2=80=A6</div><div>=
<br clear=3D"none"></div><div>=E2=80=A6I am at a loss as to what to do. One=
option: Say screw it and live with the rotten areas, put the car back to g=
ather and drive it.</div><div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;">or:</span></d=
iv><div>Sell the dang thing and walk away. Maybe I finally reached that "me=
rcy=E2=80=A6mercy=E2=80=A6no more=E2=80=A6make it stop" stage.</div><div>- =
I doubt I could bring myself to buy a TR6 again=E2=80=A6.I mean, what's the=
point. Mine isn't THAT awful and <span style=3D"font-size:12pt;">I k=
now the history of THIS car.</span></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt=
;"><br clear=3D"none"></span></div><div><div>Or:</div><div>another option=
=E2=80=A6.(my original desire/thought) is to have the areas repaired and ne=
w floor boards installed by someone that does a really good welding job&nbs=
p;</div><div>but not nearly as intense of a procedure <font size=3D"3"=
>or expensive. I know</font>=E2=80=A6<font size=3D"3">you get what you pay =
for. </font></div></div><div><font size=3D"3"><br clear=3D"none"></fon=
t></div><div>This winter: I removed everything from the engine to detail it=
out and everything is ready to go back in once the rust was fixed and engi=
ne bay painted.</div><div>At this point, I may as well sell off all the PAR=
TS - they'd be worth more they the car as a whole at this point. And everyt=
hing is removed!</div><div>(only half kidding=E2=80=A6.)</div><div><br clea=
r=3D"none"></div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Oh, one more thing=E2=
=80=A6.</div><div>this guy is DEAD set against my thought of switching to S=
ilicone brake fluid. I mean, DEAD set against and talking about warranty be=
ing voided if I use it.</div><div>I looked at him and said: "What Warranty =
is that?" "It isn't like there is a dealership I can go to" "I buy parts, I=
put them on." I am the warranty department!</div><div>He mentioned the war=
ranty of the parts I buy from Moss, etc. hmmmm=E2=80=A6.They void it if the=
silicone falls the parts.</div><div>Really? Moss SELLS Silicone brake flui=
d. </div><div>I suspect all this is because his DAD is against Silicon=
e and he just follows what his dad hates. </div><div><br clear=3D"none=
"></div><div>I was recently curious why <font size=3D"3">auto stores d=
on't seem to carry DOT 5 Silicone as much as the other types. So now with t=
his restoration guy's comments</font>=E2=80=A6<font size=3D"3">is Silicone =
THAT bad/poorly rated?</font></div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Well,=
any advice or words of comfort?</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Ja=
mes</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>1976 TR6 </div><div><br cl=
ear=3D"none"></div> =09=09 =09 =09=09 </div></div></div>
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