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To: "'Tony Drews'" <tony@tonydrews.com>, <team-thicko@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: rules rant no replies
From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" <wsthompson@thicko.com>
Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 11:41:07 -0500
Hey Tony,

""cheatin' dog" class"... LOL

I guess the real issue is rule enforcement. Despite our rules, we let
everybody run. (Ok, so that's a gross overstatement, I know there are some
cars we won't let run). But others we let run because we know them, or
they're friends, or they add other perceived value to the club, or because
we've grandfathered their cars, or whatever.

My rant was not about other cars, or spoken as Group 2 Rep. It was about
Sprites. It was about all the wasted time and energy with this supposed era
correct effort that has no teeth because of a fear of losing entrants.

DO we all end up running together? Do we all appear on the grid sheet? Is
there any notation of era correct, Mod 1, or Mod 2 in the time sheets or
results? 

My point is, a sticker is no incentive, at least on the Sprite side of
things, to be era correct. We used to turn away fender flared cars. Not
anymore. We used to move 1275 Bugeyes in Group 8 to run with the other
1275s. Not anymore. 

What's the difference between a 350 in a '63 Vette and a 1275 in a '58
Bugeye? 

I'd like to see some sort of positive net effect toward the original stated
goal...which Bob Wismer came up with regarding the preparation of our cars
and our philosophy. So far, I don't see it... in the Sprite ranks.

WST



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-team-thicko@Autox.Team.Net
[mailto:owner-team-thicko@Autox.Team.Net] On Behalf Of Tony Drews
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 10:57 AM
To: Wm. Severin Thompson; team-thicko@autox.team.net
Cc: clbraun@vintagerace.net
Subject: Re: rules rant no replies

OK, I've got to wade in here.  I have an "illegal" car.  It came that 
way and will be pretty expensive to make period correct.  In my case, 
I don't believe that the modifications make the car faster, in fact 
the most egregious change probably makes the car slower by adding 150 
lbs to the car weight.

In order to being the car into compliance, I would need to take a 
year or two off of racing and spend the money I would have spent on 
the racing season on replacing parts instead.  Who knows how much 
longer Jack and I can continue the father / son racing thing, so 
dropping a season or two is a really big deal for us.  Plus, VSCDA 
loses my entry fees for the period of time that I have to drop 
out.  That seems like a lose / lose proposition.

What I had asked VSCDA and Carl for was some way to continue racing 
with them in a "cheatin' dog" class (I don't think Carl likes it when 
I call it that :)  ) where they don't score my car in with the other 
legal group 2B cars.  Carl found a way through some 1960's class 
arrangement to allow this.  I personally was (and continue to be) 
very happy with this arrangement.  In SVRA, they bumped me up from DP 
to CP.  That seemed fair enough.

I like your idea of some sort of financial or other incentive to be 
era correct, as long as the cheatin' dog penalty isn't going to kill 
me.  I am NOT in favor of a rule that would prohibit me from running 
until I bring the car into compliance.  It's my club too.

- Tony Drews

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