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Re: Bugeye Brake Problem

To: Gerard Chateauvieux <pixelsmith@gerardsgarage.com>
Subject: Re: Bugeye Brake Problem
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 09:51:27 -0700
Cc: Mike & Kerry Gigante <mikeg@vicnet.net.au>, nateley <nateley@email.msn.com>, spridget list <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Organization: WFO Racing
References: <001101bfaab4$026a0140$2c9afea9@dxc> <v0313030cb52482ec14aa@[209.24.235.2]>
Dave,

I had the same symptoms you've described after a similar rebuild.  The
problem...and here goes guys...was silicone brake fluid.  Went back to DOT 4 and
the problem went away.  True story!

WFO Herb
Keep the sticky side down!

Gerard Chateauvieux wrote:

> Dave
>
> I would suspect the hoses too, especially since I recently experienced this
> collapsed hose problem myself. Since you say you replaced the rubber hoses
> it seems unlikely if you are getting fluid out of the bleeders. Sounds to
> me like fluid is not returning the the master. Perhaps your caliper pistons
> are not returning. Did you replace rear wheel cyinders too? When I rebuilt
> the brakes on the '61, the brakes tended to stay "on" intitially but
> developed a normal operation after a couple days. I think it took a little
> while for the seals to move freely.
>
> Gerard
>
> At 7:32 PM +1000 4/20/00, Mike & Kerry Gigante wrote:
> >Did you replace the hoses at the same time? These (the original style rubber
> >hoses)
> >have a nasty habit of collapsing  internally and can result in the brakes
> >staying on.
> >
> >Mike
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "nateley" <nateley@email.msn.com>
> >To: "spridget list" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
> >Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2000 8:34 PM
> >Subject: Bugeye Brake Problem
> >
> >
> >> Dear Group,
> >> I am having a brake problem that is making me bugeyed. I converted the
> >front
> >> drum brakes on my 60 Sprite to disks and changed the 3/4 master cylinder
> >to
> >> a rebuilt 7/8 bore. The disk setup has rebuilt calipers, new rotors, new
> >> hoses and pads. I also replaced the rear brake hose with new. The problem
> >is
> >> that when I step on the brake pedal, after about 4-5 pumps, the brakes
> >lock
> >> up - all 4 wheels and the brake lights come on and stay on. I thought I
> >got
> >> a bad rebuilt cylinder, so I had it replaced with another rebuild - same
> >> problem! Since both rebuilds were from the same source, I found a NOS
> >> cylinder and installed it - you guessed it - same problem! On all 3
> >> cylinders, I have backed the push rod all the way out - no more
> >adjustment.
> >> Also, on all 3 cylinders, the clutch side worked perfectly. I can release
> >> the pressure by  loosening any of the bleeders. Does anyone have any
> >ideas -
> >> I am all out. Please help!
> >> Dave Camp
> >> 60 Sprite
> >> 79 Midget
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
> G G              Gerard Chateauvieux
>  E A
>   R R        pixelsmith@gerardsgarage.com
>    A A
>     R G          Pixelsmith  on  Duty
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