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RE: noise at Monster

To: <MWood24020@aol.com>, <john@harlie.idsfa.net>
Subject: RE: noise at Monster
From: <charlescox@coastalbay.com>
Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 11:55:48 -0700
Your definition of what "is", "is", might get you impeached as well...
 
Mufflers and muffling the exhaust can indeed, take many forms and why the
rule states essentially that it doesn't matter what it is, but there must be
some device that muffles the exhaust, which would mean open exhaust violates
the rules, period.
 
Adequate mufflers are required by 3.5 as John stated, but he would argue
that the second sentence in 3.5 would essentially mean that you indeed,
don't have to have a muffler if the car is quiet enough (at least, that's
how I interpret what John is saying). If it is only a requirement that the
car be quiet enough, the rule book needn't say anything about having a
muffler or muffling the car to be eligible at all.  They could have simply
written the rule 3.5 to say that all cars must maintain adequate sound
levels, not mentioning muffling the car or mufflers in any way.  
 
Charles

 


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From: MWood24020@aol.com [mailto:MWood24020@aol.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 11:29 AM
To: john@harlie.idsfa.net; charlescox@coastalbay.com
Cc: d-clark@pacbell.net; ba-autox@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: noise at Monster



In a message dated 5/30/2006 11:20:45 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
john@harlie.idsfa.net writes:

Yes, the criterion of adequacy...of what?  The prior sentence refers
to "adequate muffler", and the title of section 3.5 is "Mufflers".
Gee, I wonder what they could be referring to!

According to your interpretation, sentence 2 directly contradicts
sentence 1.  There must be a muffler.  But what the system consists of
doesn't matter.  But there must be a muffler.  Do you really think
that the SEB meant to write a self-contradictory rule?


 
Muffler:
defn: A device that absorbs noise, especially one used with an
internal-combustion engine.
 
The "device" does not need to be of any specific design, just capable of
absorbing noise...so whether the accepted term for the device is "down
pipe", "turbo", "dump or turn down" etc. is irrelevant in it's being a
"muffler".
 
In other words, it depends on your definition of "is" ;-)
 
Mike




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