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Re: Spin on oil filter adaptor on a PI saloon

To: "Brian A.Tink" <batink@pcug.org.au>
Subject: Re: Spin on oil filter adaptor on a PI saloon
From: gravee.leafoe@cwcom.net
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 23:56:12 +0100
Brian, you need no guidance on how to extract maximum miles from an engine and 
your procedures are proven by your engine condition, the low rev start is 
something I will be doing from now on. You do seem to travel long distances and 
this will help your oil condition, 4000Km here would start in the North Sea
and end in France via the English Channel.
Spin on filters and conventional filters have one common denominator, the 
filter paper. Now whether the same grade is used by the different manufacturers 
is a question not easily answered. I will be making a few phonecalls to see if 
I can get some answers on this because Rimmer supply a shorter filter
cartridge than does Chris Witor according to Jonmac's e-mail. You can get the 
same flow through a small "filter" as you can through a large one if the holes 
in the paper are big enough, but it is what passes through the hole which does 
the damage. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the conventional
filter as a filter (it's usually cheaper anyway) but it does have the annoying 
habit of slowly emptying into the sump and this is why the conversion took off. 
I think most members of the group use the Triumph for "special occasion" 
motoring so a lot of them spend more time dormant than is the case with an
everyday car and this is the appeal of the conversion. You on the other hand 
use your "hackmobile" (Really, Brian, it deserves a better name than that at 
it's coming of age party) daily with long runs which help clear water from your 
oil, something which doesn't happen with occasional use.
Long may your car continue. Should we refer to you as theWizard of Oz for 
keeping a '78 engine going so long

Rgds
GrahamJNelson

"Brian A.Tink" wrote:

> Graham
>
> Just read your message re spin on oil filters.
>
> I have often heard the theory that the spin on filters allow better oil feed 
>on start up thus saving major bearing problems etc. etc.,
>
> while I would agree that if my engine was left untouched for several month I 
>would be cranking it over as your do, and that the rattle of bearings on the 
>initial morning start up can be a little dis-concerting.
>
> However, I sometimes really wonder just how much that is said about spin ons 
>is fact or fiction.  If it was serious fact then I would have to wonder how 
>much I would have reduced any damage if I had fitted a spin on years ago., 
>then again, from my experience I wonder if there would have been any benefit.
>
> I have owned my 2500S since new (December 1978), it has been used as an every 
>day "hack mobile", it has just clocked up 343,000 kilometres and I have only 
>last month had the head off for the first time.  One new valve and guides was 
>all the new bits.
>
> But as for the bottom end.  just after the head job, a 4000 kilometres 
>interstate trip, using 2 litres of oil, giving 32+ MPG and I still hold 60 PSI 
>at 2300 revs on a long trip.  In the time since new the oil pressure has only 
>deteriorated from 2000 to 2300 revs.
>
> Yes I am still using the original type oil filter, but what I do is that on 
>initial start up I use minimum revs, no more that about 800, wait until the 
>oil guage reaches a steady level and then drive slowly (Max 2000 revs) until 
>engine is warm.
>
> regards Brian
>


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