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On 1/28/2019 9:23 AM, rroenigk--- via Wpta wrote:
> This all came about when friend went into PENNDOT last week to
> register new purchase, 1966 MGB
>
> Asked person at counter what difference is between Classic and Antique
>
> The response was driving after dark and the insurance company may not
> cover you
>
> A call was made to insurance company. Response was, what ever each
> State regulations are determines your coverage
>
>
> This needs to be clarified
>
> PENNDOT staff should know regs, not embellish
>
>
> Thx
>
> Rich R
>
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> On Monday, January 28, 2019, xj61975@aol.com <xj61975@aol.com> wrote:
>
> I agree, Ed.
>
> Lucas is a genuine concern, but that pertains to more than lamps.
> Ha Ha!
>
> Bill
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: EDWARD WOODS <fogbro1@comcast.net>
> To: rroenigk <rroenigk@aol.com>; rroenigk--- via Wpta
> <wpta@autox.team.net>; xj61975 <xj61975@aol.com>
> Sent: Mon, Jan 28, 2019 8:57 am
> Subject: Re: [WPTA] Dzus meeting
>
> The only caution against driving your Triumph at night, whether it
> has PA classic or antique plates, it the one by Joseph Lucas. We
> had this discussion 25 years ago.
> "Gentlemen don't motor about after dark".
> PennDot doesn't care.
> Geez Loueez!!
>
> Ed Woods
>> On January 28, 2019 at 7:45 AM rroenigk--- via Wpta
>> <wpta@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>> Bill. Â I had a friend went to PENNDOT last week
>>
>> The lady on desk told her that was difference between plates
>>
>> And insurance company may not insure you
>>
>> You would think they know
>>
>>
>> Would like to get in writing from PENNDOT
>>
>> Thx
>>
>> Rich R
>>
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>> On Sunday, January 27, 2019, xj61975@aol.com <xj61975@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> Even before any recent changes, there is no restriction to
>> drive an antique registered car in PA after dark as long as
>> you lighting meets current standards. This has been true for
>> at least the last 25 years if not longer. Many people do not
>> understand this and stick with Classic plates.
>>
>> Bill Cooper
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Joe Stout via Wpta <wpta@autox.team.net>
>> To: rroenigk <rroenigk@aol.com>
>> Cc: wpta <wpta@autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Sun, Jan 27, 2019 9:10 pm
>> Subject: Re: [WPTA] Dzus meeting
>>
>>
>> I looked into the after dark driving in PA in the past, and
>> this statement "used" to be there....
>>
>> *Antique vehicles operated exclusively between sunrise and
>> sunset are exempt from the normal lighting *
>> *requirements of the Pennsylvania Vehicle Code, but must have
>> their original lighting equipment. *
>> *
>> *
>> It looks that that statement has now even been removed from
>> the code, as I am unable to find
>> it anyplace on PennDot documents...
>>
>> Here is what I think is the current document that mentions
>> nothing about driving after dark..
>>
>> *USE OF ANTIQUE, CLASSIC AND VINTAGE REGISTRATION PLATES The
>> use of antique, classic and vintage registration plates is
>> governed by Section 1340 of the Pennsylvania Vehicle Code,
>> which states: â??It is unlawful for any person to operate a
>> motorcycle or vehicle with antique, classic or vintage
>> registration plates for general daily transportation.
>> Permitted use shall be limited to participation in club
>> activities, exhibits, tours, parades, occasional
>> transportation and similar uses.â?? Occasional transportation
>> and similar uses are defined as no more than one day a week.
>> Although buses and trucks are eligible for antique, classic
>> and vintage registration plates, buses MAY NOT be used to
>> transport passengers and trucks MAY NOT haul cargo. Antique,
>> classic and vintage registration plates are not available for
>> motorized pedalcycles or motor homes.*
>>
>>
>> http://www.dot.state.pa.us/public/dvspubsforms/BMV/BMV%20Fact%20Sheets/fs-ant.pdf
>>
>>
>> My Thoughts...
>> Happy Sunday :-)
>>
>> Joe
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 7:17 PM rroenigk--- via Wpta <
>>
>> Subject for discussion
>>
>> Antique Tags
>>
>> If PA law says canâ??t drive after dark, does your
>> insurance company still cover you if you do ?
>>
>> Mine is American Modern and they say they go by each
>> States restrictions / guidelines
>>
>> I would not be covered when driving in dark hours in PA
>>
>> Appreciate any feedback
>>
>> Thx
>>
>> Rich R
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>> Monday January 28
>> 6:00 pm
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/28/2019 9:23 AM, rroenigk--- via
Wpta wrote:<br>
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This all came about when friend went into PENNDOT last week to
register new purchase, 1966 MGB
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Asked person at counter what difference is between Classic
and Antique</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The response was driving after dark and the insurance company
may not cover you</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>A call was made to insurance company. Response was, what ever
each State regulations are determines your coverage </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>This needs to be clarified </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>PENNDOT staff should know regs, not embellish</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thx</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Rich R<br>
<br>
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<div class="aolmail_replyHeader"> On Monday, January 28,
2019, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
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<div><font size="2" face="arial" color="black">I agree, Ed.Â
</font>
<div><br clear="none">
</div>
<div>Lucas is a genuine concern, but that pertains to more
than lamps. Ha Ha!</div>
<div><br clear="none">
</div>
<div>Bill<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
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<div style="font-family:arial,
helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black;">-----Original
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From: EDWARD WOODS <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:fogbro1@comcast.net"><fogbro1@comcast.net></a><br
clear="none">
To: rroenigk <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:rroenigk@aol.com"><rroenigk@aol.com></a>; rroenigk---
via Wpta <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:wpta@autox.team.net"><wpta@autox.team.net></a>; xj61975
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:xj61975@aol.com"><xj61975@aol.com></a><br clear="none">
Sent: Mon, Jan 28, 2019 8:57 am<br clear="none">
Subject: Re: [WPTA] Dzus meeting<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
<div id="yiv9955300153">
<div>
<div
style="font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,
arial, sans-serif;color:rgb(51, 51, 51);">The
only caution against driving your Triumph at
night, whether it has PA classic or antique
plates, it the one by Joseph Lucas. We had
this discussion 25 years ago. Â </div>
<div
style="font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,
arial, sans-serif;color:rgb(51, 51, 51);">"Gentlemen
don't motor about after dark".</div>
<div
style="font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,
arial, sans-serif;color:rgb(51, 51, 51);">PennDot
doesn't care.</div>
<div
style="font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,
arial, sans-serif;color:rgb(51, 51, 51);">Geez
Loueez!!</div>
<div
style="font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,
arial, sans-serif;color:rgb(51, 51, 51);"><br
clear="none">
</div>
<div
style="font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,
arial, sans-serif;color:rgb(51, 51, 51);">Ed
Woods</div>
<blockquote type="cite">On January 28, 2019 at
7:45 AM rroenigk--- via Wpta
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:wpta@autox.team.net"><wpta@autox.team.net></a> wrote: <br
clear="none">
<br clear="none">
Bill. Â I had a friend went to PENNDOT last
week
<div><br clear="none">
</div>
<div>The lady on desk told her that was
difference between plates</div>
<div><br clear="none">
</div>
<div>And insurance company may not insure you </div>
<div><br clear="none">
</div>
<div>You would think they know </div>
<div><br clear="none">
</div>
<div><br clear="none">
</div>
<div>Would like to get in writing from PENNDOT</div>
<div><br clear="none">
</div>
<div>Thx</div>
<div><br clear="none">
</div>
<div>Rich R <br clear="none">
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January 27,
2019, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:xj61975@aol.com">xj61975@aol.com</a>Â <a
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:xj61975@aol.com"><xj61975@aol.com></a>Â wrote:</div>
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<blockquote>
<div><span
style="color:black;font-family:arial;font-size:small;">Even
before any recent changes, there is no
restriction to drive an antique
registered car in PA after dark as
long as you lighting meets current
standards. This has been true for at
least the last 25 years if not longer.
Many people do not understand this and
stick with Classic plates. </span>
<div><br clear="none">
</div>
<div>Bill Cooper <br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
<div style="font-family:arial,
helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black;">-----Original
Message----- <br clear="none">
From: Joe Stout via Wpta
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:wpta@autox.team.net"><wpta@autox.team.net></a> <br
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To: rroenigk
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:rroenigk@aol.com"><rroenigk@aol.com></a> <br
clear="none">
Cc: wpta <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:wpta@autox.team.net"><wpta@autox.team.net></a>
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Sent: Sun, Jan 27, 2019 9:10 pm <br
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Subject: Re: [WPTA] Dzus meeting <br
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<div>I looked into the
after dark driving in PA
in the past, and this
statement "used" to be
there....</div>
<div><br clear="none">
</div>
<div><strong><span
style="color:#6a6a6a;font-family:Roboto,
arial,
sans-serif;">Antique</span><span
style="color:#545454;font-family:Roboto, arial, sans-serif;">Â vehicles
operated exclusively
between sunrise
and </span><span
style="color:#6a6a6a;font-family:Roboto, arial, sans-serif;">sunset</span><span
style="color:#545454;font-family:Roboto, arial, sans-serif;">Â are exempt
from the normal
lighting </span></strong></div>
<div><strong><span
style="color:#545454;font-family:Roboto,
arial,
sans-serif;">requirements
of the </span><span
style="color:#6a6a6a;font-family:Roboto, arial,
sans-serif;">Pennsylvania</span><span
style="color:#545454;font-family:Roboto, arial, sans-serif;">Â Vehicle
Code, but must have
their original
lighting
equipment.</span>Â Â </strong></div>
<div><strong><br
clear="none">
</strong></div>
<div>It looks that that
statement has now even
been removed from the
code, as I am unable to
find</div>
<div>it anyplace on
PennDot documents...</div>
<div><br clear="none">
</div>
<div>Here is what I think
is the current document
that mentions nothing
about driving after
dark..</div>
<div><br clear="none">
</div>
<div>Â <strong>USE OF
ANTIQUE, CLASSIC AND
VINTAGE REGISTRATION
PLATES The use of
antique, classic and
vintage registration
plates is governed by
Section 1340 of the
Pennsylvania Vehicle
Code, which states:
â??It is unlawful for
any person to operate
a motorcycle or
vehicle with antique,
classic or vintage
registration plates
for general daily
transportation.
Permitted use shall be
limited to
participation in club
activities, exhibits,
tours, parades,
occasional
transportation and
similar uses.â??
Occasional
transportation and
similar uses are
defined as no more
than one day a week.
Although buses and
trucks are eligible
for antique, classic
and vintage
registration plates,
buses MAY NOT be used
to transport
passengers and trucks
MAY NOT haul cargo.
Antique, classic and
vintage registration
plates are not
available for
motorized pedalcycles
or motor
homes.</strong>Â </div>
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<div>My Thoughts...</div>
<div>Happy Sunday :-)</div>
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<div>Joe</div>
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dir="ltr">On Sun, Jan
27, 2019 at 7:17 PM
rroenigk--- via Wpta
< <a rel="nofollow"
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<div
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id="yiv9955300153ox-21ad06c92a-yiv3687656312yqtfd86776">Subject for
discussionÂ
<div><br clear="none">
</div>
<div>Antique Tags</div>
<div><br clear="none">
</div>
<div>If PA law says
canâ??t drive after
dark, does your
insurance company
still cover you if you
do ?</div>
<div><br clear="none">
</div>
<div>Mine is American
Modern and they say
they go by each States
restrictions /
guidelines </div>
<div><br clear="none">
</div>
<div>I would not be
covered when driving
in dark hours in PA</div>
<div><br clear="none">
</div>
<div>Appreciate any
feedback </div>
<div><br clear="none">
</div>
<div>Thx</div>
<div><br clear="none">
</div>
<div>Rich R <br
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<div dir="ltr">Tomorow
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