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Re: [WPTA] Dzus meeting

To: rroenigk@aol.com, LawrenceRoss@allstate.com, "xj61975@aol.com" <xj61975@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [WPTA] Dzus meeting
From: Kevin Dadey via Wpta <wpta@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 19:30:29 +0000 (UTC)
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Hi,That would be nice. I'm going through AAA so I'll ask there.thanks!Kevin
Kevin J Dadey
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 Kevin,
Call or check in with a notary or messenger service. I think the photos may=
 no longer be required.
Bill


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From: Kevin Dadey <kevindadey@yahoo.com>
To: rroenigk@aol.com <rroenigk@aol.com>; xj61975@aol.com <xj61975@aol.com>;=
 Ross, Lawrence <LawrenceRoss@allstate.com>
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Sent: Mon, Jan 28, 2019 1:22 pm
Subject: Re: [WPTA] Dzus meeting

Hello,
Since we are talking about Antique plates, I have a question. I'm planning =
to apply for Antique plates and noted the MV-11 form mentions 4 prequired p=
hotos - one from each side and front and back. Obviously.=C2=A0It also stat=
es if the car is convertible, the top must be up. Ugh. I have a top which h=
as been removed and requires some fittings and is likely to be a bit of a s=
truggle. I don't really plan to use it. Really needs replaced but I'd rathe=
r spend money on other more pressing needs. Also the previous owner replace=
d the exhaust with a 2-pipe, 4-tipped Monza. Has anyone had trouble with ap=
proval because of photos other than Bill, or a modified exhaust?=C2=A0
Thanks in advance,Kevin=C2=A0



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    On Monday, January 28, 2019, 12:20:51 PM EST, Ross, Lawrence via Wpta <=
wpta@autox.team.net> wrote: =20
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 OK Kiddies -=C2=A0Being in the Risk Management Business, there is NO stipu=
lation that limits driving during night hours on any of the following plate=
s:=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A01) Antique=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A02) =
Historic=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A03) Classic=C2=A0The "official recomme=
ndation" is that you do not drive after dark on due to the lack of "lightin=
g technology".=C2=A0However, it is=C2=A0NOT illegal to drive after dark.=C2=
=A0Larry Ross=C2=A0Lawrence Ross Agency67 Old Clairton Rd.Pittsburgh, PA. 1=
5236(412) 655-9990 - office(412) 780-8495 - cellFrom: Wpta [wpta-bounces@au=
tox.team.net] on behalf of rroenigk--- via Wpta [wpta@autox.team.net]
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 8:27 AM
To: xj61975@aol.com
Cc: wpta@autox.team.net
Subject: [External] Re: [WPTA] Dzus meeting

Bill. I agree on PENNDOT staff not knowing or adding their two cents
They scary part is our insurance companies use a =E2=80=9C loophole =E2=80=
=9C to avoid coverage=C2=A0
I=E2=80=99m going to try to get clarification from PENNDOT
Thx
Rich R

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On=C2=A0Monday, January 28, 2019,=C2=A0xj61975@aol.com=C2=A0<xj61975@aol.co=
m>=C2=A0wrote:

Believe what you want, Rich.=20
Penndot is so random that you are likely to get any answer on any given day=
 depending on who you talk to.
Back when photos were required, I had applications bounced because of:
-a person sitting in the car-front window was down-license plate visible an=
d "was not original to the car"
I actually resubmitted the photos with the person in the car to see what wo=
uld happen, and a week later I got my plate. Go figure.
If you can find in writing within the vehicle code that antique plates are =
not valid after dark, please let us know what section.
I did up a 1941 Ford in the mid 1980's. I had a good friend who was a State=
 Trooper at the time who ran it up his chain of command.=C2=A0 "If you want=
 to drive legally after dark, make sure you have two taillights, turn signa=
ls, and sealed beam headlights". That was good enough for me.
Or just go with Classic and keep going in for inspections each year.
Thanks,
Bill




-----Original Message-----
From: rroenigk <rroenigk@aol.com>
To: xj61975 <xj61975@aol.com>
Cc: jstout310 <jstout310@gmail.com>; wpta <wpta@autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, Jan 28, 2019 7:45 am
Subject: Re: [WPTA] Dzus meeting

Bill. =C2=A0I had a friend went to PENNDOT last week
The lady on desk told her that was difference between plates
And insurance company may not insure you=C2=A0
You would think they know=C2=A0

Would like to get in writing from PENNDOT
Thx
Rich R

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On=C2=A0Sunday, January 27, 2019,=C2=A0xj61975@aol.com=C2=A0<xj61975@aol.co=
m>=C2=A0wrote:

Even before any recent changes, there is no restriction to drive an antique=
 registered car in PA after dark as long as you lighting meets current stan=
dards. This has been true for at least the last 25 years if not longer. Man=
y people do not understand this and stick with Classic plates.=20
Bill Cooper


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From: Joe Stout via Wpta <wpta@autox.team.net>
To: rroenigk <rroenigk@aol.com>
Cc: wpta <wpta@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sun, Jan 27, 2019 9:10 pm
Subject: Re: [WPTA] Dzus meeting


I looked into the after dark driving in PA in the past, and this statement =
"used" to be there....
Antique=C2=A0vehicles operated exclusively between sunrise and=C2=A0sunset=
=C2=A0are exempt from the normal lighting=C2=A0requirements of the=C2=A0Pen=
nsylvania=C2=A0Vehicle Code, but must have their original lighting equipmen=
t.=C2=A0=C2=A0
It looks that that statement has now even been removed from the code, as I =
am unable to findit anyplace on PennDot documents...
Here is what I think is the current document that mentions nothing about dr=
iving after dark..
=C2=A0 USE OF ANTIQUE, CLASSIC AND VINTAGE REGISTRATION PLATES The use of a=
ntique, classic and vintage registration plates is governed by Section 1340=
 of the Pennsylvania Vehicle Code, which states: =E2=80=9CIt is unlawful fo=
r any person to operate a motorcycle or vehicle with antique, classic or vi=
ntage registration plates for general daily transportation. Permitted use s=
hall be limited to participation in club activities, exhibits, tours, parad=
es, occasional transportation and similar uses.=E2=80=9D Occasional transpo=
rtation and similar uses are defined as no more than one day a week. Althou=
gh buses and trucks are eligible for antique, classic and vintage registrat=
ion plates, buses MAY NOT be used to transport passengers and trucks MAY NO=
T haul cargo. Antique, classic and vintage registration plates are not avai=
lable for motorized pedalcycles or motor homes.=C2=A0
http://www.dot.state.pa.us/public/dvspubsforms/BMV/BMV%20Fact%20Sheets/fs-a=
nt.pdf

My Thoughts...Happy Sunday :-)
Joe



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On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 7:17 PM rroenigk--- via Wpta <wpta@autox.team.net> =
wrote:

Subject for discussion=C2=A0
Antique Tags
If PA law says can=E2=80=99t drive after dark, does your insurance company =
still cover you if you do ?
Mine is American Modern and they say they go by each States restrictions / =
guidelines=C2=A0
I would not be covered when driving in dark hours in PA
Appreciate any feedback=C2=A0
Thx
Rich R

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l.com &lt;xj61975@aol.com&gt; wrote:
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<div>Call or check in with a notary or messenger service. I think the photo=
s may no longer be required.
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<div>Bill<br clear=3D"none">
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;color:black;">-----Original Message-----<br clear=3D"none">
From: Kevin Dadey &lt;kevindadey@yahoo.com&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
To: rroenigk@aol.com &lt;rroenigk@aol.com&gt;; xj61975@aol.com &lt;xj61975@=
aol.com&gt;; Ross, Lawrence &lt;LawrenceRoss@allstate.com&gt;<br clear=3D"n=
one">
Cc: wpta@autox.team.net &lt;wpta@autox.team.net&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
Sent: Mon, Jan 28, 2019 1:22 pm<br clear=3D"none">
Subject: Re: [WPTA] Dzus meeting<br clear=3D"none">
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<div>Hello,</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>Since we are talking about Antique plates, I have a question. I'm plan=
ning to apply for Antique plates and noted the MV-11 form mentions 4 prequi=
red photos - one from each side and front and back. Obviously.&nbsp;</div>

<div>It also states if the car is convertible, the top must be up. Ugh. I h=
ave a top which has been removed and requires some fittings and is likely t=
o be a bit of a struggle. I don't really plan to use it. Really needs repla=
ced but I'd rather spend money on other more pressing needs. Also the previ=
ous owner replaced the exhaust with a 2-pipe, 4-tipped Monza. Has anyone ha=
d trouble with approval because of photos other than Bill, or a modified ex=
haust?&nbsp;</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>Thanks in advance,</div>

<div>Kevin&nbsp;</div>

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<div>OK Kiddies -</div>


<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div>Being in the Risk Management Business, there is NO stipulation that li=
mits driving during night hours on any of the following plates:</div>


<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1) Antique</div>


<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2) Historic</div>


<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;3) Classic</div>


<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div>The "official recommendation" is that you do not drive after dark on d=
ue to the lack of "lighting technology".</div>


<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div>However, it is&nbsp;NOT illegal to drive after dark.</div>


<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div>Larry Ross</div>


<div>

<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div><font face=3D"Calibri"><strong>Lawrence Ross Agency</strong></font></d=
iv>


<div><font face=3D"calibri"><strong>67 Old Clairton Rd.</strong></font></di=
v>


<div><font face=3D"calibri"><strong>Pittsburgh, PA. 15236</strong></font></=
div>


<div><font face=3D"calibri"><strong>(412) 655-9990 - office</strong></font>=
</div>


<div><font face=3D"calibri"><strong>(412) 780-8495 - cell</strong></font></=
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 28, 2019 8:27 AM<br clear=3D"none">
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<b>Subject:</b> [External] Re: [WPTA] Dzus meeting<br clear=3D"none">
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<div>Bill. I agree on PENNDOT staff not knowing or adding their two cents

<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>


<div>They scary part is our insurance companies use a =E2=80=9C loophole =
=E2=80=9C to avoid coverage&nbsp;</div>


<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>


<div>I=E2=80=99m going to try to get clarification from PENNDOT</div>


<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>


<div>Thx</div>


<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>


<div>Rich R<br clear=3D"none">
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<div><font color=3D"black" size=3D"2" face=3D"arial">Believe what you want,=
 Rich. </font>

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<div>Penndot is so random that you are likely to get any answer on any give=
n day depending on who you talk to.</div>


<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>


<div>Back when photos were required, I had applications bounced because of:=
</div>


<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>


<div>-a person sitting in the car</div>


<div>-front window was down</div>


<div>-license plate visible and "was not original to the car"</div>


<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>


<div>I actually resubmitted the photos with the person in the car to see wh=
at would happen, and a week later I got my plate. Go figure.</div>


<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>


<div>If you can find in writing within the vehicle code that antique plates=
 are not valid after dark, please let us know what section.</div>


<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>


<div>I did up a 1941 Ford in the mid 1980's. I had a good friend who was a =
State Trooper at the time who ran it up his chain of command.&nbsp; "If you=
 want to drive legally after dark, make sure you have two taillights, turn =
signals, and sealed beam headlights".
 That was good enough for me.</div>


<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>


<div>Or just go with Classic and keep going in for inspections each year.</=
div>


<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>


<div>Thanks,</div>


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</div>


<div><span style=3D"FONT-SIZE:10pt;">Bill</span><br clear=3D"none">
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<div>Bill. &nbsp;I had a friend went to PENNDOT last week

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<div>The lady on desk told her that was difference between plates</div>


<div><br clear=3D"none">
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<div>And insurance company may not insure you&nbsp;</div>


<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>


<div>You would think they know&nbsp;</div>


<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>


<div><br clear=3D"none">
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<div>Would like to get in writing from PENNDOT</div>


<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>


<div>Thx</div>


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</div>


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<div><font color=3D"black" size=3D"2" face=3D"arial">Even before any recent=
 changes, there is no restriction to drive an antique registered car in PA =
after dark as long as you lighting meets current standards. This has been t=
rue for at least the last 25 years if
 not longer. Many people do not understand this and stick with Classic plat=
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<div>I looked into the after dark driving in PA in the past, and this state=
ment "used" to be there....</div>


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<div><b><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:Roboto, arial, sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(106,=
106,106);">Antique</span><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:Roboto, arial, sans-ser=
if;COLOR:rgb(84,84,84);">&nbsp;vehicles operated exclusively between sunris=
e and&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:Roboto, arial, sans-serif;COLO=
R:rgb(106,106,106);">sunset</span><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:Roboto, arial,=
 sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(84,84,84);">&nbsp;are
 exempt from the normal lighting&nbsp;</span></b></div>


<div><b><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:Roboto, arial, sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(84,8=
4,84);">requirements of the&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:Roboto, =
arial, sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(106,106,106);">Pennsylvania</span><span style=
=3D"FONT-FAMILY:Roboto, arial, sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(84,84,84);">&nbsp;Vehic=
le
 Code, but must have their original lighting equipment.</span>&nbsp;&nbsp;<=
/b></div>


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<div>It looks that that statement has now even been removed from the code, =
as I am unable to find</div>


<div>it anyplace on PennDot documents...</div>


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<div>Here is what I think is the current document that mentions nothing abo=
ut driving after dark..</div>


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<div>&nbsp; <b>USE OF ANTIQUE, CLASSIC AND VINTAGE REGISTRATION PLATES The =
use of antique, classic and vintage registration plates is governed by Sect=
ion 1340 of the Pennsylvania Vehicle Code, which states: =E2=80=9CIt is unl=
awful for any person to operate a motorcycle
 or vehicle with antique, classic or vintage registration plates for genera=
l daily transportation. Permitted use shall be limited to participation in =
club activities, exhibits, tours, parades, occasional transportation and si=
milar uses.=E2=80=9D Occasional transportation
 and similar uses are defined as no more than one day a week. Although buse=
s and trucks are eligible for antique, classic and vintage registration pla=
tes, buses MAY NOT be used to transport passengers and trucks MAY NOT haul =
cargo. Antique, classic and vintage
 registration plates are not available for motorized pedalcycles or motor h=
omes.</b>&nbsp;</div>


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<div>Happy Sunday :-)</div>


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<div>If PA law says can=E2=80=99t drive after dark, does your insurance com=
pany still cover you if you do ?</div>


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<div>Mine is American Modern and they say they go by each States restrictio=
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<div>I would not be covered when driving in dark hours in PA</div>


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<div>Appreciate any feedback&nbsp;</div>


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<div>Thx</div>


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