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Bill. I agree on PENNDOT staff not knowing or adding their two cents
They scary part is our insurance companies use a =E2=80=9C loophole =E2=80=
=9C to avoid coverage=C2=A0
I=E2=80=99m going to try to get clarification from PENNDOT
Thx
Rich R
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On=C2=A0Monday, January 28, 2019,=C2=A0xj61975@aol.com=C2=A0<xj61975@aol.c=
om>=C2=A0wrote:
Believe what you want, Rich.
Penndot is so random that you are likely to get any answer on any given day=
depending on who you talk to.
Back when photos were required, I had applications bounced because of:
-a person sitting in the car-front window was down-license plate visible an=
d "was not original to the car"
I actually resubmitted the photos with the person in the car to see what wo=
uld happen, and a week later I got my plate. Go figure.
If you can find in writing within the vehicle code that antique plates are =
not valid after dark, please let us know what section.
I did up a 1941 Ford in the mid 1980's. I had a good friend who was a State=
Trooper at the time who ran it up his chain of command.=C2=A0 "If you want=
to drive legally after dark, make sure you have two taillights, turn signa=
ls, and sealed beam headlights". That was good enough for me.
Or just go with Classic and keep going in for inspections each year.
Thanks,
Bill
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To: xj61975 <xj61975@aol.com>
Cc: jstout310 <jstout310@gmail.com>; wpta <wpta@autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, Jan 28, 2019 7:45 am
Subject: Re: [WPTA] Dzus meeting
Bill. =C2=A0I had a friend went to PENNDOT last week
The lady on desk told her that was difference between plates
And insurance company may not insure you=C2=A0
You would think they know=C2=A0
Would like to get in writing from PENNDOT
Thx
Rich R
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On=C2=A0Sunday, January 27, 2019,=C2=A0xj61975@aol.com=C2=A0<xj61975@aol.c=
om>=C2=A0wrote:
Even before any recent changes, there is no restriction to drive an antique=
registered car in PA after dark as long as you lighting meets current stan=
dards. This has been true for at least the last 25 years if not longer. Man=
y people do not understand this and stick with Classic plates.
Bill Cooper
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From: Joe Stout via Wpta <wpta@autox.team.net>
To: rroenigk <rroenigk@aol.com>
Cc: wpta <wpta@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sun, Jan 27, 2019 9:10 pm
Subject: Re: [WPTA] Dzus meeting
I looked into the after dark driving in PA in the past, and this statement =
"used" to be there....
Antique=C2=A0vehicles operated exclusively between sunrise and=C2=A0sunset=
=C2=A0are exempt from the normal lighting=C2=A0requirements of the=C2=A0Pen=
nsylvania=C2=A0Vehicle Code, but must have their original lighting equipmen=
t.=C2=A0=C2=A0
It looks that that statement has now even been removed from the code, as I =
am unable to findit anyplace on PennDot documents...
Here is what I think is the current document that mentions nothing about dr=
iving after dark..
=C2=A0 USE OF ANTIQUE, CLASSIC AND VINTAGE REGISTRATION PLATESThe use of an=
tique, classic and vintage registration plates is governed by Section 1340 =
of the PennsylvaniaVehicle Code, which states: =E2=80=9CIt is unlawful for =
any person to operate a motorcycle or vehicle with antique,classic or vinta=
ge registration plates for general daily transportation. Permitted use shal=
l be limited toparticipation in club activities, exhibits, tours, parades, =
occasional transportation and similar uses.=E2=80=9D Occasionaltransportati=
on and similar uses are defined as no more than one day a week.Although bus=
es and trucks are eligible for antique, classic and vintage registration pl=
ates, buses MAY NOT beused to transport passengers and trucks MAY NOT haul =
cargo. Antique, classic and vintage registration platesare not available fo=
r motorized pedalcycles or motor homes.=C2=A0
http://www.dot.state.pa.us/public/dvspubsforms/BMV/BMV%20Fact%20Sheets/fs-a=
nt.pdf
My Thoughts...Happy Sunday :-)
Joe
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wrote:
Subject for discussion=C2=A0
Antique Tags
If PA law says can=E2=80=99t drive after dark, does your insurance company =
still cover you if you do ?
Mine is American Modern and they say they go by each States restrictions / =
guidelines=C2=A0
I would not be covered when driving in dark hours in PA
Appreciate any feedback=C2=A0
Thx
Rich R
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Bill. I agree on PENNDOT staff not knowing or adding their two cents<div><b=
r></div><div>They scary part is our insurance companies use a =E2=80=9C loo=
phole =E2=80=9C to avoid coverage </div><div><br></div><div>I=E2=80=99=
m going to try to get clarification from PENNDOT</div><div><br></div><div>T=
hx</div><div><br></div><div>Rich R<br><br><div id=3D"__aol_mail_signature__=
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On Monday, January 28, 2019, xj61975@aol.com <xj61975=
@aol.com> wrote:
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<blockquote style=3D"margin:0 0 0 9px;padding:0 0 0 9px;"><div id=3D"yiv258=
0637485"><div><font color=3D"black" size=3D"2" face=3D"arial">Believe what =
you want, Rich.
</font><div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>Penndot is so random that you are likely to get any answer on any give=
n day depending on who you talk to.</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>Back when photos were required, I had applications bounced because of:=
</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>-a person sitting in the car</div>
<div>-front window was down</div>
<div>-license plate visible and "was not original to the car"</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>I actually resubmitted the photos with the person in the car to see wh=
at would happen, and a week later I got my plate. Go figure.</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>If you can find in writing within the vehicle code that antique plates=
are not valid after dark, please let us know what section.</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>I did up a 1941 Ford in the mid 1980's. I had a good friend who was a =
State Trooper at the time who ran it up his chain of command. "If you=
want to drive legally after dark, make sure you have two taillights, turn =
signals, and sealed beam headlights". That was good enough for me.</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>Or just go with Classic and keep going in for inspections each year.</=
div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>Thanks,</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
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<div>Bill. I had a friend went to PENNDOT last week
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div>The lady on desk told her that was difference between plates</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div>And insurance company may not insure you </div>
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div>You would think they know </div>
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div>Would like to get in writing from PENNDOT</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div>Thx</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
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<div><font color=3D"black" size=3D"2" face=3D"arial">Even before any recent=
changes, there is no restriction to drive an antique registered car in PA =
after dark as long as you lighting meets current standards. This has been t=
rue for at least the last 25 years if not longer. Many people do not unders=
tand this and stick with Classic plates.
</font>
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To: rroenigk <rroenigk@aol.com><br clear=3D"none">
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Sent: Sun, Jan 27, 2019 9:10 pm<br clear=3D"none">
Subject: Re: [WPTA] Dzus meeting<br clear=3D"none">
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<div>I looked into the after dark driving in PA in the past, and this state=
ment "used" to be there....</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div><b><span style=3D"color:rgb(106,106,106);font-family:Roboto, arial, sa=
ns-serif;">Antique</span><span style=3D"color:rgb(84,84,84);font-family:Rob=
oto, arial, sans-serif;"> vehicles operated exclusively between sunris=
e and </span><span style=3D"color:rgb(106,106,106);font-family:Roboto,=
arial, sans-serif;">sunset</span><span style=3D"color:rgb(84,84,84);font-f=
amily:Roboto, arial, sans-serif;"> are exempt from the normal lighting=
</span></b></div>
<div><b><span style=3D"color:rgb(84,84,84);font-family:Roboto, arial, sans-=
serif;">requirements of the </span><span style=3D"color:rgb(106,106,10=
6);font-family:Roboto, arial, sans-serif;">Pennsylvania</span><span style=
=3D"color:rgb(84,84,84);font-family:Roboto, arial, sans-serif;"> Vehic=
le Code, but must have their original lighting equipment.</span>  =
;</b></div>
<div><b><br clear=3D"none"></b></div>
<div>It looks that that statement has now even been removed from the code, =
as I am unable to find</div>
<div>it anyplace on PennDot documents...</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div>Here is what I think is the current document that mentions nothing abo=
ut driving after dark..</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div> <b>USE OF ANTIQUE, CLASSIC AND VINTAGE REGISTRATION PLATES
The use of antique, classic and vintage registration plates is governed by =
Section 1340 of the Pennsylvania
Vehicle Code, which states: =E2=80=9CIt is unlawful for any person to opera=
te a motorcycle or vehicle with antique,
classic or vintage registration plates for general daily transportation. Pe=
rmitted use shall be limited to
participation in club activities, exhibits, tours, parades, occasional tran=
sportation and similar uses.=E2=80=9D Occasional
transportation and similar uses are defined as no more than one day a week.
Although buses and trucks are eligible for antique, classic and vintage reg=
istration plates, buses MAY NOT be
used to transport passengers and trucks MAY NOT haul cargo. Antique, classi=
c and vintage registration plates
are not available for motorized pedalcycles or motor homes.</b> </div>
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div><a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://ww=
w.dot.state.pa.us/public/dvspubsforms/BMV/BMV%20Fact%20Sheets/fs-ant.pdf">h=
ttp://www.dot.state.pa.us/public/dvspubsforms/BMV/BMV%20Fact%20Sheets/fs-an=
t.pdf</a><br clear=3D"none"></div>
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<div>My Thoughts...</div>
<div>Happy Sunday :-)</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div>Joe</div>
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<div>Antique Tags</div>
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<div>If PA law says can=E2=80=99t drive after dark, does your insurance com=
pany still cover you if you do ?</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div>Mine is American Modern and they say they go by each States restrictio=
ns / guidelines </div>
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div>I would not be covered when driving in dark hours in PA</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div>Appreciate any feedback </div>
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<div>Thx</div>
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