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Ah GUYS!!! ,=20
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RE-read that CLOSELY!!! That is NOT 101 =E2=80=9Cfoot pounds=E2=80=9D, =
it is 10lbs. ft. or TEN =E2=80=9Cpounds foot=E2=80=9D!! That is an =
abbreviation lbs. for pounds.
=20
That 10 foot pounds =E2=80=9Cseats=E2=80=9D the bearing, then you back =
off the castle nut as specified and recheck runout.
=20
If you torque those bearings to 100 ft pounds you will break the =
bearings and probably other stuff including overstressing the small =
threads under the castle nut.
=20
Glenn Merrell, CAP
StagByTriumph Garage
210 Bass Circle
Lafayette, Colorado USA 80026-1811=20
+1 (303) 817-8559 mobile
aka Stag-By-Triumph Garage (on FaceBook)
Remember, =E2=80=9Cthe BEST trophies are: Miles on the Odometer; Stone =
chips in the paint; and DEAD BUGS on the windscreen =E2=80=A6 with the =
occasional smell of manure!=E2=80=9D
=20
=20
=20
From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of DAVID =
MASSEY
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 6:36 AM
To: don.hiscock@gmail.com; aljlthomson@charter.net
Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Is this symptom I'm getting indicative of a bad front =
wheel bearing?
=20
Still, 101??? Not 100? Nobody lists a torque setting to +/- 1% =
Especially back in the day. With the old torsion-beam torque wrenches =
with a linear scale you're lucky to get +/- 5 lb-ft.
=20
Dave=20
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-----Original Message-----
>
To: Alex & Janet Thomson <aljlthomson@charter.net =
Sent: Mon, Feb 27, 2023 7:28 pm
Subject: Re: [TR] Is this symptom I'm getting indicative of a bad front =
wheel bearing?
It's not a misprint, unless the missing space between the zero and the =
ell count. It's mainly dyslexic or too-fast reading, or perhaps being =
more familiar with ft-lb convention than lb-ft that led him to see 101.
=20
On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 7:18 PM Alex & Janet Thomson =
Wow! That definitely is a car with a broken leg! I=E2=80=99ve never done =
any work on an MG but I=E2=80=99ve never heard of a pre-load of 101 =
ft.-lbs. for front wheel bearings. All of our farm tractors, about 10, =
from a Farmall H to a Deere 4250, use the common specification of =
=E2=80=9Chand tighten to a slight drag, and then back off to the nearest =
castellation=E2=80=9D. That=E2=80=99s what I have done on all of our =
cars and trucks over the years and it seems to work.
=20
Can someone explain the 101 ft.-lb. spec or is that just a misprint?
=20
Alex Thomson
=20
From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net =
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2023 7:21 PM
To: Philip Ethier
Cc: Triumphs
Subject: Re: [TR] Is this symptom I'm getting indicative of a bad front =
wheel bearing?
=20
And I lost a front wheel on my TR3B at 70 mph on I-70 in 2014. I've not =
quite gotten over that episode yet, Yes, don't fool around with wheel =
bearings!
=20
The root cause of my wheel-fell-off episode was a restorer who was more =
used to MG bearing preloads than a TR3's non-preloaded bearings. He =
read this part of the Red Book service instructions as 101 lb=C2=B7ft, =
not 10 lb=C2=B7ft. Yikes.
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-7mHq3MK/0/07d96589/O/i-7mHq3MK.png
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-8zPPqt3/0/1e459484/XL/i-8zPPqt3-XL.jp=
g
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-wBTPGjg/0/5123f2e5/X3/i-wBTPGjg-X3.jp=
g
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This happened in western Ohio, not too far from Macy's Garage as it =
turned out. And although Mark and Co. didn't do the work that led to =
the wheel coming off, they know my car and were able to take it into =
their shop that afternoon while I flew home.
=20
So listen to the voice of two of us with scary experiences. Take care =
with wheel bearings.
=20
On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 6:01 PM Philip Ethier <pethier7@gmail.com =
Don't mess with wheel bearings. Get it checked out. I lost a wheel on =
my TR4 on the way home from the VTR in 2005.
=20
On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 5:35=E2=80=AFPM Sujit Roy <triumphstag@gmail.com =
I have a Stag and have checked and changed various components like =
bottom ball joint and top shock mount, but am still experiencing a =
vibration, through the steering wheel, from the left front wheel only =
when I'm turning left. The car had been fitted with all new poly bushes.
There is no vibration going straight or when turning right.=20
I plan to swap the wheel with my spare, but can a bad bearing cause =
these symptoms?
The hub rotates smoothly and there is no noise.
=20
The TR6 uses a similar vertical link setup as the Stag. The hub bearings =
are tapered.
=20
=20
Sujit=20
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--=20
Sujit Roy
Cupertino, California
https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/
Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs =
http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/pethier7@gmail.com
=20
--=20
Phil Ethier West Side Saint Paul Minnesota USA
1973 Triumph Stag LE22439UBW "uncle jack", Sapphire Blue
Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs =
http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/don.hiscock@gmail.com
Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs =
<http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs> http://www.team.net/archive
http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dave1massey@cs.com
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vlink=3Dpurple style=3D'word-wrap:break-word'><div =
class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>Ah GUYS!!! , <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>RE-read that =
CLOSELY!!!=C2=A0 That is <i>NOT 101 =E2=80=9Cfoot pounds=E2=80=9D</i>, =
it is <b>10</b><u>lbs. ft</u>.=C2=A0 or TEN =E2=80=9Cpounds =
foot=E2=80=9D!!=C2=A0 That is an abbreviation lbs.=C2=A0 for =
pounds.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>That 10 foot pounds =E2=80=9Cseats=E2=80=9D the =
bearing, then you back off the castle nut as specified and recheck =
runout.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>If you torque those bearings to 100 ft pounds you will =
break the bearings and probably other stuff including overstressing the =
small threads under the castle nut.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Glenn Merrell, CAP<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>StagByTriumph =
Garage<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>210 Bass Circle<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Lafayette, Colorado USA =
80026-1811 <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>+1 (303) 817-8559 mobile<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>aka Stag-By-Triumph =
Garage (<i>on FaceBook</i>)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Remember, =E2=80=9Cthe =
BEST trophies are: Miles on the Odometer; Stone chips in the paint; and =
DEAD BUGS on the windscreen =E2=80=A6 with the occasional smell of =
manure!=E2=80=9D<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Triumphs =
<triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> <b>On Behalf Of </b>DAVID =
MASSEY<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 28, 2023 6:36 AM<br><b>To:</b> =
don.hiscock@gmail.com; aljlthomson@charter.net<br><b>Cc:</b> =
triumphs@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Is this symptom I'm =
getting indicative of a bad front wheel bearing?<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Sti=
ll, 101??? Not 100? Nobody lists a torque setting to +/- =
1% Especially back in the day. With the old torsion-beam =
torque wrenches with a linear scale you're lucky to get +/- 5 =
lb-ft.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Dav=
e </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>---=
--Original Message-----<br>From: Don Hiscock <<a =
href=3D"mailto:don.hiscock@gmail.com";>don.hiscock@gmail.com</a>><br>To=
: Alex & Janet Thomson <<a =
href=3D"mailto:aljlthomson@charter.net";>aljlthomson@charter.net</a>><b=
r>Cc: Triumphs <<a =
href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><b=
r>Sent: Mon, Feb 27, 2023 7:28 pm<br>Subject: Re: [TR] Is this symptom =
I'm getting indicative of a bad front wheel =
bearing?<o:p></o:p></span></p><div id=3Dyiv5715629523><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>It'=
s not a misprint, unless the missing space between the zero and the ell =
count. It's mainly dyslexic or too-fast reading, or perhaps being =
more familiar with ft-lb convention than lb-ft that led him to see =
101.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p> </o:p></span></p><div id=3Dyiv5715629523yqt74756><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>On =
Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 7:18 PM Alex & Janet Thomson <<a =
href=3D"mailto:aljlthomson@charter.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">aljlthomson@charter.net</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>W=
ow! That definitely is a car with a broken leg! I=E2=80=99ve never done =
any work on an MG but I=E2=80=99ve never heard of a pre-load of 101 =
ft.-lbs. for front wheel bearings. All of our farm tractors, about 10, =
from a Farmall H to a Deere 4250, use the common specification of =
=E2=80=9Chand tighten to a slight drag, and then back off to the nearest =
castellation=E2=80=9D. That=E2=80=99s what I have done on all of our =
cars and trucks over the years and it seems to work.</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>&=
nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>C=
an someone explain the 101 ft.-lb. spec or is that just a =
misprint?</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>&=
nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>A=
lex Thomson</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>&=
nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Fro=
m:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> =
Triumphs [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Don Hiscock<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 27, 2023 7:21 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> Philip Ethier<br><b>Cc:</b> Triumphs<br><b>Subject:</b> =
Re: [TR] Is this symptom I'm getting indicative of a bad front wheel =
bearing?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>And=
I lost a front wheel on my TR3B at 70 mph on I-70 in 2014. I've =
not quite gotten over that episode yet, Yes, don't fool around =
with wheel bearings!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>The=
root cause of my wheel-fell-off episode was a restorer who was more =
used to MG bearing preloads than a TR3's non-preloaded bearings. =
He read this part of the Red Book service instructions as 101 =
lb=C2=B7ft, not 10 lb=C2=B7ft. =
Yikes.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><a =
href=3D"https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-7mHq3MK/0/07d96589/O/i-7mHq3M=
K.png" =
target=3D"_blank">https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-7mHq3MK/0/07d96589/=
O/i-7mHq3MK.png</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><a =
href=3D"https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-8zPPqt3/0/1e459484/XL/i-8zPPq=
t3-XL.jpg" =
target=3D"_blank">https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-8zPPqt3/0/1e459484/=
XL/i-8zPPqt3-XL.jpg</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><a =
href=3D"https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-wBTPGjg/0/5123f2e5/X3/i-wBTPG=
jg-X3.jpg" =
target=3D"_blank">https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-wBTPGjg/0/5123f2e5/=
X3/i-wBTPGjg-X3.jpg</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Thi=
s happened in western Ohio, not too far from Macy's Garage as it turned =
out. And although Mark and Co. didn't do the work that led to the =
wheel coming off, they know my car and were able to take it into their =
shop that afternoon while I flew =
home.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>So =
listen to the voice of two of us with scary experiences. Take care =
with wheel bearings.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>On =
Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 6:01 PM Philip Ethier <<a =
href=3D"mailto:pethier7@gmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">pethier7@gmail.com</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5=
.0pt'><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Don=
't mess with wheel bearings. Get it checked out. I lost =
a wheel on my TR4 on the way home from the VTR in =
2005.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>On =
Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 5:35=E2=80=AFPM Sujit Roy <<a =
href=3D"mailto:triumphstag@gmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">triumphstag@gmail.com</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5=
.0pt'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>I =
have a Stag and have checked and changed various components like bottom =
ball joint and top shock mount, but am still experiencing a vibration, =
through the steering wheel, from the left front wheel only =
when I'm turning left. The car had been fitted with all new poly =
bushes.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>The=
re is no vibration going straight or when turning =
right. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>I =
plan to swap the wheel with my spare, but can a bad bearing cause =
these symptoms?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>The=
hub rotates smoothly and there is no =
noise.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>The=
TR6 uses a similar vertical link setup as the Stag. The hub =
bearings are tapered.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Suj=
it <br clear=3Dall><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p =
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>-- =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Suj=
it Roy<br>Cupertino, =
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><a href=3D"https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/"; =
target=3D"_blank">https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/</a><o:p></o:p></=
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Sapphire Blue</span><span =
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