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really lucky it didn't rip the whole fender off
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On 2/27/2023 8:18 PM, Alex & Janet Thomson wrote:
>
> Wow! That definitely is a car with a broken leg! Iâ??ve never done any
> work on an MG but Iâ??ve never heard of a pre-load of 101 ft.-lbs. for
> front wheel bearings. All of our farm tractors, about 10, from a
> Farmall H to a Deere 4250, use the common specification of â??hand
> tighten to a slight drag, and then back off to the nearest
> castellationâ??. Thatâ??s what I have done on all of our cars and trucks
> over the years and it seems to work.
>
> Can someone explain the 101 ft.-lb. spec or is that just a misprint?
>
> Alex Thomson
>
> *From:*Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of
> *Don Hiscock
> *Sent:* Monday, February 27, 2023 7:21 PM
> *To:* Philip Ethier
> *Cc:* Triumphs
> *Subject:* Re: [TR] Is this symptom I'm getting indicative of a bad
> front wheel bearing?
>
> And I lost a front wheel on my TR3B at 70 mph on I-70 in 2014. I've
> not quite gotten over that episode yet, Yes, don't fool around with
> wheel bearings!
>
> The root cause of my wheel-fell-off episode was a restorer who was
> more used to MG bearing preloads than a TR3's non-preloaded bearings.Â
> He read this part of the Red Book service instructions as 101 lb·ft,
> not 10 lb·ft. Yikes.
>
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>
> This happened in western Ohio, not too far from Macy's Garage as it
> turned out. And although Mark and Co. didn't do the work that led to
> the wheel coming off, they know my car and were able to take it into
> their shop that afternoon while I flew home.
>
> So listen to the voice of two of us with scary experiences. Take care
> with wheel bearings.
>
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 6:01 PM Philip Ethier <pethier7@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Don't mess with wheel bearings. Get it checked out. I lost a
> wheel on my TR4 on the way home from the VTR in 2005.
>
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 5:35â?¯PM Sujit Roy <triumphstag@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I have a Stag and have checked and changed various components
> like bottom ball joint and top shock mount, but am still
> experiencing a vibration, through the steering wheel, from
> the left front wheel only when I'm turning left. The car had
> been fitted with all new poly bushes.
>
> There is no vibration going straight or when turning right.
>
> I plan to swap the wheel with my spare, but can a bad bearing
> cause these symptoms?
>
> The hub rotates smoothly and there is no noise.
>
> The TR6 uses a similar vertical link setup as the Stag. The
> hub bearings are tapered.
>
> Sujit
>
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>
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<p>really lucky it didn't rip the whole fender off</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Wow!
That definitely is a car with a broken leg! Iâ??ve never done
any work on an MG but Iâ??ve never heard of a pre-load of 101
ft.-lbs. for front wheel bearings. All of our farm tractors,
about 10, from a Farmall H to a Deere 4250, use the common
specification of â??hand tighten to a slight drag, and then
back off to the nearest castellationâ??. Thatâ??s what I have
done on all of our cars and trucks over the years and it
seems to work.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p>Â </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Can
someone explain the 101 ft.-lb. spec or is that just a
misprint?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p>Â </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Alex
Thomson<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p>Â </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
Triumphs [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net";>mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>]
<b>On
Behalf Of </b>Don Hiscock<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 27, 2023 7:21 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Philip Ethier<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Triumphs<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Is this symptom I'm getting
indicative of a bad front wheel bearing?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Â </o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">And I lost a front wheel on my TR3B at
70 mph on I-70 in 2014. I've not quite gotten over that
episode yet, Yes, don't fool around with wheel
bearings!<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Â </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">The root cause of my wheel-fell-off
episode was a restorer who was more used to MG bearing
preloads than a TR3's non-preloaded bearings. He read
this part of the Red Book service instructions as 101
lb·ft, not 10 lb·ft. Yikes.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This happened in western Ohio, not too
far from Macy's Garage as it turned out. And although
Mark and Co. didn't do the work that led to the wheel
coming off, they know my car and were able to take it into
their shop that afternoon while I flew home.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Â </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">So listen to the voice of two of us
with scary experiences. Take care with wheel
bearings.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Â </o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 6:01 PM Philip
Ethier <<a href="mailto:pethier7@gmail.com";
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">pethier7@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Don't mess with wheel bearings.Â
Get it checked out. I lost a wheel on my TR4 on the
way home from the VTR in 2005.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Â </o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 5:35â?¯PM
Sujit Roy <<a href="mailto:triumphstag@gmail.com";
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">triumphstag@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I have a Stag and have checked
and changed various components like bottom ball
joint and top shock mount, but am still
experiencing a vibration, through the
steering wheel, from the left front wheel only
when I'm turning left. The car had been fitted
with all new poly bushes.<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">There is no vibration going
straight or when turning right. <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">I plan to swap the wheel with
my spare, but can a bad bearing cause these
symptoms?<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">The hub rotates smoothly and
there is no noise.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Â </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">The TR6 uses a similar
vertical link setup as the Stag. The hub
bearings are tapered.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Â </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Â </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Sujit <br clear="all">
<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Â </o:p></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal">-- <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Sujit Roy<br>
Cupertino, California<o:p></o:p></p>
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