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To: Tony Drews <tony@tonydrews.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] Incantation
From: David Friedlander <forzion7@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2021 20:03:59 -0500
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Sounds like a plan, Tony. Ill give it a try...

Thank you,

Dave

On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 7:23 PM Tony Drews <tony@tonydrews.com> wrote:

> Even though the shaft won't turn, it sounds like the splines aren't
> aligned with the clutch disk.  Have the tranny in 4th gear when trying to
> mate them, jiggle the output of the trans to turn the input shaft.  It
> should just slide back together.
>
> Regards, Tony
> On 11/11/2021 6:11 PM, David Friedlander wrote:
>
> Exactly, Frank. A few candles, some incense, and an incantation in the
> ancient language. I've checked the Bentley's and, for some
> reason, it's not in there!
>
> All I changed was the TO bearing. Why the wrestling match?
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 6:59 PM Frank Fisher <yellowtr3@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> then it should go right back in with just a little swearing in the
>> ancient language
>>
>> frank
>>
>> On Thursday, November 11, 2021, 03:15:29 PM PST, David Friedlander <
>> forzion7@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Do I need to align the clutch disc to the pilot bushing if
>> I never disassembled the clutch? I only worked on the
>> gearbox, not the clutch....
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 5:57 PM TeriAnn J. Wakeman <tjwakeman@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> On 11/11/21 1:30 PM, David Friedlander wrote:
>>
>> You used a clutch disc centering tool to align the clutch disc to the
>> pilot bushing .. right? And maybe just a thin smear of grease on the
>> leading edge of the  gearbox gears?  You have the bottom of the bellhousing
>> sitting on a 2X4 over the crossmember. Otherwise just try to line it up as
>> best as possible (It helps to have you looking down and a second person
>> looking at the side). have the gearbox in 4th gear & when the shaft & disc
>> splines touch, wiggle the rear output shaft a little to get the splines
>> lined up. Maybe putting out a wee dram of Baleys the night before can't
>> hurt and you can finish off whatever is left after the spline slides in.
>>
>> TeriAnn
>>
>> On what page of the manual is the incantation to speak over this effort?
>> Must be spoken with a Limey accent, right?  :- )
>>
>> Dave
>> '59 TR3A
>>
>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sa=
ns ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099">Sounds like a plan, Tony. I=
ll give it a try...</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:=
comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099"><br></div><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size=
:large;color:#000099">Thank you,</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D=
"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099"><br></=
div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-se=
rif;font-size:large;color:#000099">Dave</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_=
quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 7:23 P=
M Tony Drews &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tony@tonydrews.com";>tony@tonydrews.com</=
a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0p=
x 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
 =20
   =20
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  <div bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF">
    <p>Even though the shaft won&#39;t turn, it sounds like the splines
      aren&#39;t aligned with the clutch disk.=C2=A0 Have the tranny in 4th=
 gear
      when trying to mate them, jiggle the output of the trans to turn
      the input shaft.=C2=A0 It should just slide back together.</p>
    <p>Regards, Tony<br>
    </p>
    <div>On 11/11/2021 6:11 PM, David
      Friedlander wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
     =20
      <div dir=3D"ltr">
        <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:&quot;comic sans =
ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,153)">Exactly, Frank. A
          few candles, some incense, and an incantation in the=C2=A0</div>
        <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:&quot;comic sans =
ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,153)">ancient language.
          I&#39;ve checked the Bentley&#39;s and, for some=C2=A0</div>
        <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:&quot;comic sans =
ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,153)">reason, it&#39;s no=
t
          in there!<br>
          <br>
          All I changed was the TO bearing. Why the wrestling match?<br>
          <br>
        </div>
        <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:&quot;comic sans =
ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,153)">Dave=C2=A0=C2=A0</d=
iv>
        <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:&quot;comic sans =
ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,153)"><br>
          <br>
          <br>
          <br>
        </div>
        <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:&quot;comic sans =
ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,153)">=C2=A0</div>
      </div>
      <br>
      <div class=3D"gmail_quote">
        <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 6:59
          PM Frank Fisher &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:yellowtr3@yahoo.com"; target=
=3D"_blank">yellowtr3@yahoo.com</a>&gt;
          wrote:<br>
        </div>
        <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
          <div>
            <div>
              <div dir=3D"ltr">then it should go right back in with just a
                little swearing in the ancient language</div>
              <div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
              </div>
              <div dir=3D"ltr">frank</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
            </div>
            <div id=3D"gmail-m_634651277792314364gmail-m_570066976654483792=
8ydp917c3b12yahoo_quoted_6687296054">
              <div>
                <div> On Thursday, November 11, 2021, 03:15:29 PM PST,
                  David Friedlander &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:forzion7@gmail.co=
m" target=3D"_blank">forzion7@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                  wrote: </div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>
                  <div id=3D"gmail-m_634651277792314364gmail-m_570066976654=
4837928ydp917c3b12yiv5893411734">
                    <div>
                      <div dir=3D"ltr">
                        <div>Do
                          I need to align the clutch disc to the pilot
                          bushing if</div>
                        <div>I
                          never disassembled the clutch? I only worked
                          on the=C2=A0</div>
                        <div>gearbox,
                          not the clutch....</div>
                        <div><br clear=3D"none">
                        </div>
                        <div>Dave</div>
                      </div>
                      <br clear=3D"none">
                      <div>
                        <div id=3D"gmail-m_634651277792314364gmail-m_570066=
9766544837928ydp917c3b12yiv5893411734yqt66329">
                          <div dir=3D"ltr">On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 5:57 PM
                            TeriAnn J. Wakeman &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=
=3D"mailto:tjwakeman@gmail.com"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">tjwakema=
n@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                            wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
                          </div>
                          <blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bor=
der-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                            <div>
                              <div>On 11/11/21 1:30 PM, David
                                Friedlander wrote:</div>
                              <div><br clear=3D"none">
                              </div>
                              <div>You used a clutch disc centering tool
                                to align the clutch disc to the pilot
                                bushing .. right? And maybe just a thin
                                smear of grease on the leading edge of
                                the=C2=A0 gearbox gears?=C2=A0 You have the=
 bottom
                                of the bellhousing sitting on a 2X4 over
                                the crossmember. Otherwise just try to
                                line it up as best as possible (It helps
                                to have you looking down and a second
                                person looking at the side). have the
                                gearbox in 4th gear &amp; when the shaft
                                &amp; disc splines touch, wiggle the
                                rear output shaft a little to get the
                                splines lined up. Maybe putting out a
                                wee dram of Baleys the night before
                                can&#39;t hurt and you can finish off
                                whatever is left after the spline slides
                                in.</div>
                              <div><br clear=3D"none">
                              </div>
                              <div>TeriAnn<br clear=3D"none">
                              </div>
                              <blockquote type=3D"cite">
                                <div dir=3D"ltr">
                                  <div>On
                                    what page of the manual is the
                                    incantation to speak over this
                                    effort?=C2=A0=C2=A0<br clear=3D"none">
                                    Must be spoken with a Limey accent,
                                    right?=C2=A0 :- )</div>
                                  <div><br clear=3D"none">
                                    Dave</div>
                                  <div>&#39;59
                                    TR3A</div>
                                </div>
                                <br clear=3D"none">
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