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Re: [TR] Incantation

To: David Friedlander <forzion7@gmail.com>, Frank Fisher <yellowtr3@yahoo.com>, TR3 Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>, New England Triumphs <net@newenglandtriumphs.org>
Subject: Re: [TR] Incantation
From: Tony Drews <tony@tonydrews.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2021 18:23:22 -0600
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Even though the shaft won't turn, it sounds like the splines aren't 
aligned with the clutch disk.  Have the tranny in 4th gear when trying 
to mate them, jiggle the output of the trans to turn the input shaft.  
It should just slide back together.

Regards, Tony

On 11/11/2021 6:11 PM, David Friedlander wrote:
> Exactly, Frank. A few candles, some incense, and an incantation in the
> ancient language. I've checked the Bentley's and, for some
> reason, it's not in there!
>
> All I changed was the TO bearing. Why the wrestling match?
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 6:59 PM Frank Fisher <yellowtr3@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>     then it should go right back in with just a little swearing in the
>     ancient language
>
>     frank
>
>     On Thursday, November 11, 2021, 03:15:29 PM PST, David Friedlander
>     <forzion7@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>     Do I need to align the clutch disc to the pilot bushing if
>     I never disassembled the clutch? I only worked on the
>     gearbox, not the clutch....
>
>     Dave
>
>     On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 5:57 PM TeriAnn J. Wakeman
>     <tjwakeman@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>         On 11/11/21 1:30 PM, David Friedlander wrote:
>
>         You used a clutch disc centering tool to align the clutch disc
>         to the pilot bushing .. right? And maybe just a thin smear of
>         grease on the leading edge of the  gearbox gears?  You have
>         the bottom of the bellhousing sitting on a 2X4 over the
>         crossmember. Otherwise just try to line it up as best as
>         possible (It helps to have you looking down and a second
>         person looking at the side). have the gearbox in 4th gear &
>         when the shaft & disc splines touch, wiggle the rear output
>         shaft a little to get the splines lined up. Maybe putting out
>         a wee dram of Baleys the night before can't hurt and you can
>         finish off whatever is left after the spline slides in.
>
>         TeriAnn
>>         On what page of the manual is the incantation to speak over
>>         this effort?
>>         Must be spoken with a Limey accent, right?  :- )
>>
>>         Dave
>>         '59 TR3A
>>
>>
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    <p>Even though the shaft won't turn, it sounds like the splines
      aren't aligned with the clutch disk.  Have the tranny in 4th gear
      when trying to mate them, jiggle the output of the trans to turn
      the input shaft.  It should just slide back together.</p>
    <p>Regards, Tony<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/11/2021 6:11 PM, David
      Friedlander wrote:<br>
    </div>
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cite="mid:CAJ1eQwi33+TngCQ=vps5_q8v-rkecQem5O_Jf1g_kZt46-tyJQ@mail.gmail.com">
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans
          ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099">Exactly, Frank. A
          few candles, some incense, and an incantation in the </div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans
          ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099">ancient language.
          I've checked the Bentley's and, for some </div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans
          ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099">reason, it's not
          in there!<br>
          <br>
          All I changed was the TO bearing. Why the wrestling match?<br>
          <br>
        </div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans
          ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099">Dave  </div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans
          ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099"><br>
          <br>
          <br>
          <br>
        </div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans
          ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099"> </div>
      </div>
      <br>
      <div class="gmail_quote">
        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 6:59
          PM Frank Fisher &lt;<a href="mailto:yellowtr3@yahoo.com";
            moz-do-not-send="true" 
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">yellowtr3@yahoo.com</a>&gt;
          wrote:<br>
        </div>
        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
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            <div style="font-family:&quot;Helvetica
              Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px">
              <div dir="ltr">then it should go right back in with just a
                little swearing in the ancient language</div>
              <div dir="ltr"><br>
              </div>
              <div dir="ltr">frank</div>
              <div><br>
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id="gmail-m_5700669766544837928ydp917c3b12yahoo_quoted_6687296054">
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Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(38,40,42)">
                <div> On Thursday, November 11, 2021, 03:15:29 PM PST,
                  David Friedlander &lt;<a
                    href="mailto:forzion7@gmail.com"; target="_blank"
                    moz-do-not-send="true" 
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">forzion7@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                  wrote: </div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div><br>
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                        <div style="font-family:&quot;comic sans
                          
ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,153)">Do
                          I need to align the clutch disc to the pilot
                          bushing if</div>
                        <div style="font-family:&quot;comic sans
                          
ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,153)">I
                          never disassembled the clutch? I only worked
                          on the </div>
                        <div style="font-family:&quot;comic sans
                          
ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,153)">gearbox,
                          not the clutch....</div>
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ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,153)"><br
                            clear="none">
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                        <div style="font-family:&quot;comic sans
                          
ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,153)">Dave</div>
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                      <div>
                        <div
                          
id="gmail-m_5700669766544837928ydp917c3b12yiv5893411734yqt66329">
                          <div dir="ltr">On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 5:57 PM
                            TeriAnn J. Wakeman &lt;<a shape="rect"
                              href="mailto:tjwakeman@gmail.com";
                              rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">tjwakeman@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                            wrote:<br clear="none">
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                              <div>On 11/11/21 1:30 PM, David
                                Friedlander wrote:</div>
                              <div><br clear="none">
                              </div>
                              <div>You used a clutch disc centering tool
                                to align the clutch disc to the pilot
                                bushing .. right? And maybe just a thin
                                smear of grease on the leading edge of
                                the  gearbox gears?  You have the bottom
                                of the bellhousing sitting on a 2X4 over
                                the crossmember. Otherwise just try to
                                line it up as best as possible (It helps
                                to have you looking down and a second
                                person looking at the side). have the
                                gearbox in 4th gear &amp; when the shaft
                                &amp; disc splines touch, wiggle the
                                rear output shaft a little to get the
                                splines lined up. Maybe putting out a
                                wee dram of Baleys the night before
                                can't hurt and you can finish off
                                whatever is left after the spline slides
                                in.</div>
                              <div><br clear="none">
                              </div>
                              <div>TeriAnn<br clear="none">
                              </div>
                              <blockquote type="cite">
                                <div dir="ltr">
                                  <div style="font-family:&quot;sans
                                    
sans-serif&quot;;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,153)">On
                                    what page of the manual is the
                                    incantation to speak over this
                                    effort?  <br clear="none">
                                    Must be spoken with a Limey accent,
                                    right?  :- )</div>
                                  <div style="font-family:&quot;sans
                                    
sans-serif&quot;;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,153)"><br
                                      clear="none">
                                    Dave</div>
                                  <div style="font-family:&quot;sans
                                    
sans-serif&quot;;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,153)">'59
                                    TR3A</div>
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