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"I think I need to retire and just play with Triumphs"
Amen to that
On Fri, Apr 16, 2021, 8:17 AM Jim Henningsen <trguy75@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks all for your suggestions. Trying to help a friend while doing my
> work and busyness is a challenge. I think I need to retire and just play
> with Triumphs. Will try all recommendations this weekend. Cheers
>
> Jim Henningsen
>
>
>
> *From:* DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, April 16, 2021 8:37 AM
> *To:* auprichard@uprichard.net; trguy75@gmail.com; greg@gelhar.com
> *Cc:* Triumphs@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [TR] New TR3A owner
>
>
>
> The one time I had to tow the car home was because the DPO installed the
> fuel level sender without a gasket but used RTV instead. RTV is NOT
> gasoline tolerant. I globule that exuded inside the take swelled up and
> dropped off and plugged the fuel line. This convenient short cut by the
> DPO cost me several hours and quite a few dollars resulting in pulling th=
e
> tank and having it cleaned a lined.
>
>
>
> The only other running issue I had was a loose rivet on the coil terminal=
.
>
>
>
> The usual diagnostic procedures are in order. 1) verify spark. 2) verif=
y
> fuel. Note that 12.2 volts is a bit low and 11.4 is a bit low but it
> should be sufficient to run the engine. What voltage do you measure whil=
st
> cranking? If it stays up above 8 - 9 volts you'll be fine.
>
>
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: auprichard@uprichard.net
> To: 'James Henningsen' <trguy75@gmail.com>; 'Greg Gelhar' <greg@gelhar.co=
m
> >
> Cc: Triumphs@autox.team.net
> Sent: Fri, Apr 16, 2021 7:07 am
> Subject: Re: [TR] New TR3A owner
>
> The first time our first TR3 died, I was out with my wife and we were
> about 2 miles from home. As we trudged our way home I explained that thi=
s
> was part of the fun of owning a TR. I'm not sure she was convinced......=
.
>
> Hopefully your neighbor isn't too upset.
>
> Really looking forward to being another of your neighbors next winter!
>
> Andrew Uprichard
> Jackson, Michigan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of James
> Henningsen
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 7:51 PM
> To: Greg Gelhar <greg@gelhar.com>
> Cc: Triumphs@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [TR] New TR3A owner
>
> Yes. I=E2=80=99m going to pull a spark plug and test for spark against t=
he block
> tomorrow. I know enough to get me in trouble which is why I do appreciat=
e
> this list Jim
>
> > On Apr 15, 2021, at 7:38 PM, Greg Gelhar <greg@gelhar.com> wrote:
> >
> > =EF=BB=BFWhen you sprayed fluid into the carbs, had you lifted the slid=
es to
> > open the fuel/ air passages?
> >
> > Greg G
> > Osseo, MN
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Jim
> > Henningsen
> > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 6:20 PM
> > To: triumphs@autox.team.net
> > Subject: [TR] New TR3A owner
> >
> > List:
> > I successfully convinced my neighbor to buy a new to him 1958 TR3A.
> > Great to have a new first time TR owner, especially here in Ocala, FL.
> > Car arrived today and of course it crapped out on him after 10 miles.
> > Luckily right in front of his house. We got the car back into his
> > garage before the rain came. Car cranks over fine just won't run. It
> > literally just died on him at a stop sign after the ten mile drive.
> > 12.2 volts at the battery, but
> > 11.4 on the coil with ignition on. Positive ground car. Is 11.4
> > normal at the coil to start or is it losing voltage from ignition switc=
h
> to coil.
> > White wires from ignition switch look nice and tight. With ignition
> > switch on, it also has 11.4 volts at white wires on second fuse on the
> fuse box.
> >
> > Just wanted to confirm 11.4 seems ok to start this puppy before I dig
> > into points, condenser, rotor, cap and wires. I don't think it is
> > fuel as I sprayed starter fluid in the carbs and still nothing.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jim "I need spark" Henningsen
> > Ocala FL
> >
> >
> >
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<div dir=3D"auto">=C2=A0 "I think I need to retire and just play with =
Triumphs"<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Amen to that</d=
iv></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_att=
r">On Fri, Apr 16, 2021, 8:17 AM Jim Henningsen <<a href=3D"mailto:trguy=
75@gmail.com">trguy75@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple" style=3D"w=
ord-wrap:break-word"><div class=3D"m_-5964240835762380227WordSection1"><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks all for your suggestions.=C2=A0 Trying to help a =
friend while doing my work and busyness is a challenge.=C2=A0 I think I nee=
d to retire and just play with Triumphs.=C2=A0 Will try all recommendations=
this weekend.=C2=A0 Cheers<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Jim Hen=
ningsen<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><di=
v style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in=
0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> DAVID MASSEY <<a href=3D"mailt=
o:dave1massey@cs.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">dave1massey@cs.c=
om</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 16, 2021 8:37 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a=
href=3D"mailto:auprichard@uprichard.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferr=
er">auprichard@uprichard.net</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:trguy75@gmail.com"; targ=
et=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">trguy75@gmail.com</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:g=
reg@gelhar.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">greg@gelhar.com</a><br=
><b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:Triumphs@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" re=
l=3D"noreferrer">Triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Ne=
w TR3A owner<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u>=
</u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;fo=
nt-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">The one time I had to t=
ow the car home was because the DPO installed the fuel level sender without=
a gasket but used RTV instead.=C2=A0 RTV is NOT gasoline tolerant.=C2=A0 I=
globule that exuded inside the take swelled up and dropped off and plugged=
the fuel line.=C2=A0 This convenient short cut by the DPO cost me several =
hours and quite a few dollars resulting in pulling the tank and having it c=
leaned a lined.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;col=
or:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;co=
lor:black">The only other running issue I had was a loose rivet on the coil=
terminal.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:bl=
ack"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=
style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:b=
lack">The usual diagnostic procedures are in order.=C2=A0 1) verify spark.=
=C2=A0 2) verify fuel.=C2=A0 Note that 12.2 volts is a bit low and 11.4 is =
a bit low but it should be sufficient to run the engine.=C2=A0 What voltage=
do you measure whilst cranking?=C2=A0 If it stays up above 8 - 9 volts you=
'll be fine.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;co=
lor:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family=
:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Dave </span><span style=3D"font-=
size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u=
></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:=
12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<=
u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size=
:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0=
<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:=
12.0pt"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-=
serif;color:black">-----Original Message-----<br>From: <a href=3D"mailto:au=
prichard@uprichard.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">auprichard@upr=
ichard.net</a><br>To: 'James Henningsen' <<a href=3D"mailto:trgu=
y75@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">trguy75@gmail.com</a>&g=
t;; 'Greg Gelhar' <<a href=3D"mailto:greg@gelhar.com"; target=3D"=
_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">greg@gelhar.com</a>><br>Cc: <a href=3D"mailto=
:Triumphs@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">Triumphs@aut=
ox.team.net</a><br>Sent: Fri, Apr 16, 2021 7:07 am<br>Subject: Re: [TR] New=
TR3A owner<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">=
The first time our first TR3 died, I was out with my wife and we were about=
2 miles from home.=C2=A0 As we trudged our way home I explained that this =
was part of the fun of owning a TR.=C2=A0 I'm not sure she was convince=
d.......<br><br>Hopefully your neighbor=C2=A0 isn't too upset.<br><br>R=
eally looking forward to being another of your neighbors next winter!<br><b=
r>Andrew Uprichard<br>Jackson, Michigan<br><br>-----Original Message-----<b=
r>From: Triumphs <<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net"; tar=
get=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> O=
n Behalf Of James Henningsen<br>Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 7:51 PM<br>T=
o: Greg Gelhar <<a href=3D"mailto:greg@gelhar.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=
=3D"noreferrer">greg@gelhar.com</a>><br>Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:Triumphs@a=
utox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">Triumphs@autox.team.net=
</a><br>Subject: Re: [TR] New TR3A owner<br><br>Yes.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99m goin=
g to pull a spark plug and test for spark against the block tomorrow.=C2=A0=
I know enough to get me in trouble which is why I do appreciate this list=
=C2=A0 Jim <br><br>> On Apr 15, 2021, at 7:38 PM, Greg Gelhar <<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:greg@gelhar.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">greg@gelh=
ar.com</a>> wrote:<br>> <br>> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0=
pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">=EF=BB=BF</span><=
span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;col=
or:black">When you sprayed fluid into the carbs, had you lifted the slides =
to <br>> open the fuel/ air passages?<br>> <br>> Greg G<br>> Os=
seo, MN<br>> <br>> -----Original Message-----<br>> From: Triumphs =
<<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" re=
l=3D"noreferrer">triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> On Behalf Of Jim <=
br>> Henningsen<br>> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 6:20 PM<br>> T=
o: <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nore=
ferrer">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br>> Subject: [TR] New TR3A owner<br=
>> <br>> List:<br>> I successfully convinced my neighbor to buy a =
new to him 1958 TR3A.=C2=A0 <br>> Great to have a new first time TR owne=
r, especially here in Ocala, FL.=C2=A0 <br>> Car arrived today and of co=
urse it crapped out on him after 10 miles. <br>> Luckily right in front =
of his house.=C2=A0 We got the car back into his <br>> garage before the=
rain came.=C2=A0 Car cranks over fine just won't run.=C2=A0 It <br>>=
; literally just died on him at a stop sign after the ten mile drive.=C2=A0=
<br>> 12.2 volts at the battery, but<br>> 11.4 on the coil with igni=
tion on.=C2=A0 Positive ground car.=C2=A0 Is 11.4 <br>> normal at the co=
il to start or is it losing voltage from ignition switch to coil.<br>> W=
hite wires from ignition switch look nice and tight.=C2=A0 With ignition <b=
r>> switch on,=C2=A0 it also has 11.4 volts at white wires on second fus=
e on the fuse box.<br>> <br>> Just wanted to confirm 11.4 seems ok to=
start this puppy before I dig <br>> into points, condenser, rotor, cap =
and wires.=C2=A0 I don't think it is <br>> fuel as I sprayed starter=
fluid in the carbs and still nothing.<br>> <br>> Thanks,<br>> Jim=
"I need spark" Henningsen<br>> Ocala FL<br>> <br>> <br>=
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