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Brian,
It comes down to do you want to be right, or get a title and tags for your c=
ar. Bill
Cactus Jack drinks coffee black......BWS
> On Nov 7, 2019, at 6:35 PM, Brian Kemp <bk13@earthlink.net> wrote:
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=EF=BB=BF This was the mid 1990's. I talked to the CA DMV on the phone befo=
re buying the car and in person when I went to transfer the car. They insis=
ted that the Oh was not valid in a VIN and it had to be a zero. Realized re=
ality didn't matter with the DMV and it wasn't worth trying to be right with=
the facts. Since my car has be a CA car since new, I'd guess when initiall=
y titled in 1972, they marked it as a zero.
Brian
On 11/7/2019 4:27 AM, Reihing, Randall S. wrote:
> How does changing the "O" to a "0" on the paper title, match the "O" on t=
he riveted metal plate still on the car itself? How is it legal to have a ti=
tle with a VIN that does not match the VIN on the vehicle's riveted metal pl=
ate?
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> Randall Reihing
> 1960 TR3A
> 1959 TR3A
> From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Brian Kemp <=
bk13@earthlink.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2019 8:50:45 PM
> To: Andrew Uprichard <auprichard@uprichard.net>; 'Triumphs' <triumphs@auto=
x.team.net>
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [TR] VINs
> =20
> My California TR6 title also ends L0 - L zero. I told them it should be a=
n Oh for Overdrive, but they said I couldn't have an Oh and I was wrong. No=
t worth having an argument with the DMV. The insurance company was fine wit=
h whatever the title said.
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> Brian
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> On 11/6/2019 1:13 PM, Andrew Uprichard wrote:
>> I just went to get a title on a TR which came with a factory overdrive. T=
he old title appropriately ended =E2=80=9CLO=E2=80=9D, but I was told that =E2=
=80=9COs=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9CIs=E2=80=9D are no longer acceptable in title=
s. So I had to change the VIN (on the title) to =E2=80=9CL0=E2=80=9D. Then=
I had to call the insurance company to explain the same story to them and h=
ave them send me a proof of insurance with =E2=80=9CL0=E2=80=9D.
>> =20
>> Anyone else come across this? Maybe it has been going on for years: I h=
ave 4 cars with overdrive, but this was the first factory one.
>> =20
>> Andrew Uprichard
>> Jackson, MI
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utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Brian,<div>It comes down to do you want to b=
e right, or get a title and tags for your car. Bill<br><br><div dir=3D=
"ltr">Cactus Jack drinks coffee black......BWS</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><bl=
ockquote type=3D"cite">On Nov 7, 2019, at 6:35 PM, Brian Kemp <bk13@earth=
link.net> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF
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This was the mid 1990's. I talked to the CA DMV on the phone befor=
e
buying the car and in person when I went to transfer the car. They=
insisted that the Oh was not valid in a VIN and it had to be a
zero. Realized reality didn't matter with the DMV and it wasn't
worth trying to be right with the facts. Since my car has be a CA
car since new, I'd guess when initially titled in 1972, they marked
it as a zero.<br>
<br>
Brian<br>
<br>
<div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 11/7/2019 4:27 AM, Reihing, Randall
S. wrote:<br>
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<p style=3D"margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">How does changing the
"O" to a "0" on the paper title, match the "O" on the r=
iveted
metal plate still on the car itself? How is it legal to have a=
title with a VIN that does not match the VIN on the
vehicle's riveted metal plate?</p>
<p style=3D"margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0"><br>
</p>
<p style=3D"margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">Randall Reihing</p>
<p style=3D"margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">1960 TR3A</p>
<p style=3D"margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">1959 TR3A</p>
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<div id=3D"divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><font style=3D"font-size:11pt" f=
ace=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b>
Triumphs <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:triumph=
s-bounces@autox.team.net"><triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net></a> on beh=
alf of
Brian Kemp <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:bk13@=
earthlink.net"><bk13@earthlink.net></a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 6, 2019 8:50:45 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Andrew Uprichard <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" hre=
f=3D"mailto:auprichard@uprichard.net";><auprichard@uprichard.net></a>;
'Triumphs' <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:trium=
phs@autox.team.net"><triumphs@autox.team.net></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] Re: [TR] VINs</font>
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<div style=3D"background-color:#FFFFFF">My California TR6 title also
ends L0 - L zero. I told them it should be an Oh for Overdrive=
,
but they said I couldn't have an Oh and I was wrong. Not worth=
having an argument with the DMV. The insurance company was fin=
e
with whatever the title said.<br>
<br>
Brian<br>
<br>
<div class=3D"x_moz-cite-prefix">On 11/6/2019 1:13 PM, Andrew
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=E2=80=9COs=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9CIs=E2=80=9D are no longer a=
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