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That's the whole point. And there is also the insurance company's note -
should it have what is on the vin plate or what in on the title?\
But you are in Ohio, Randall - maybe they are more understanding there !!
Andrew
Jackson, Michigan - where the "law" is: no "Os" on titles
From: Reihing, Randall S. [mailto:Randall.Reihing@utoledo.edu]
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 7:28 AM
To: Brian Kemp; Andrew Uprichard; 'Triumphs'
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [TR] VINs
How does changing the "O" to a "0" on the paper title, match the "O" on the
riveted metal plate still on the car itself? How is it legal to have a title
with a VIN that does not match the VIN on the vehicle's riveted metal plate?
Randall Reihing
1960 TR3A
1959 TR3A
_____
From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Brian Kemp
<bk13@earthlink.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2019 8:50:45 PM
To: Andrew Uprichard <auprichard@uprichard.net>; 'Triumphs'
<triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [TR] VINs
My California TR6 title also ends L0 - L zero. I told them it should be an
Oh for Overdrive, but they said I couldn't have an Oh and I was wrong. Not
worth having an argument with the DMV. The insurance company was fine with
whatever the title said.
Brian
On 11/6/2019 1:13 PM, Andrew Uprichard wrote:
I just went to get a title on a TR which came with a factory overdrive. The
old title appropriately ended "LO", but I was told that "Os" and "Is" are no
longer acceptable in titles. So I had to change the VIN (on the title) to
"L0". Then I had to call the insurance company to explain the same story to
them and have them send me a proof of insurance with "L0".
Anyone else come across this? Maybe it has been going on for years: I have
4 cars with overdrive, but this was the first factory one.
Andrew Uprichard
Jackson, MI
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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>That’s the whole =
point. And there is also the insurance company’s note =
– should it have what is on the vin plate or what in on the =
title?\<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>But you =
are in Ohio, Randall – maybe they are more understanding there =
!!<br><br>Andrew<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Jackson, Michigan – where =
the “law” is: no “Os” on =
titles<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div=
><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt =
0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Reihing, Randall S. [mailto:Randall.Reihing@utoledo.edu] =
<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 7, 2019 7:28 AM<br><b>To:</b> Brian =
Kemp; Andrew Uprichard; 'Triumphs'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: =
[TR] VINs<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div =
id=3Ddivtagdefaultwrapper><p><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>How does =
changing the "O" to a "0" on the paper title, match =
the "O" on the riveted metal plate still on =
the car itself? How is it legal to have a title with a VIN that does not =
match the VIN on the vehicle's riveted metal =
plate?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p=
></span></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Randall =
Reihing<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>1960 =
TR3A<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>1959 =
TR3A<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter =
style=3D'text-align:center'><hr size=3D3 width=3D"98%" =
align=3Dcenter></div><div id=3DdivRplyFwdMsg><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'=
>From:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'=
> Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Brian =
Kemp <bk13@earthlink.net><br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 6, =
2019 8:50:45 PM<br><b>To:</b> Andrew Uprichard =
<auprichard@uprichard.net>; 'Triumphs' =
<triumphs@autox.team.net><br><b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] Re: [TR] =
VINs</span> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'>My =
California TR6 title also ends L0 - L zero. I told them it should =
be an Oh for Overdrive, but they said I couldn't have an Oh and I was =
wrong. Not worth having an argument with the DMV. The =
insurance company was fine with whatever the title =
said.<br><br>Brian<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'>On 11/6/2019 1:13 PM, Andrew Uprichard =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3Dxmsonormal style=3D'background:white'>I just went to get a title =
on a TR which came with a factory overdrive. The old title =
appropriately ended “LO”, but I was told that =
“Os” and “Is” are no longer acceptable in =
titles. So I had to change the VIN (on the title) to =
“L0”. Then I had to call the insurance company to =
explain the same story to them and have them send me a proof of =
insurance with “L0”.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3Dxmsonormal =
style=3D'background:white'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3Dxmsonormal =
style=3D'background:white'>Anyone else come across this? Maybe it =
has been going on for years: I have 4 cars with overdrive, but =
this was the first factory one.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3Dxmsonormal =
style=3D'background:white'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3Dxmsonormal =
style=3D'background:white'>Andrew Uprichard<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3Dxmsonormal style=3D'background:white'>Jackson, =
MI<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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