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Jim
In the rebuild of your car, did you by chance find any obscure markings in =
yellow or white chinagraph chalk on the engine block? These were common ide=
ntifiers used at the factory that were understood by those who worked in en=
gine assembly =E2=80=93 but no-one else. Primarily, the mark was to disting=
uish the machined but unassembled block as being an ultimate engine for a N=
orth America spec car. Not all the blocks had these marks but I do know man=
y others have encountered them years later and wondered what the hell they =
were. Being anxious to replicate what had been there after re-painting the =
block, they replaced the code. I=E2=80=99d be very surprised if TRA or VTR =
have extra marks in their judging books =E2=80=93 or even deduct marks if t=
hey weren=E2=80=99t there.
Cheers, Jonmac
From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Jim Henningse=
n
Sent: 17 January 2019 12:31
To: wbeech@flash.net
Cc: Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] Paint code
Bill:
I have the TRA judging guide for the TR4 and have been using it as my plumb=
line for the restoration going back to 2010 when I purchased the car. The=
trick is what to tell the auto paint store for a color to match that would=
be acceptable to judges. My goal isn=E2=80=99t to beat everyone in a conc=
ours but to faithfully recreate the car as it was born. I am not intereste=
d in trophies. Over the 8 years restoring this car, s I have sometimes fou=
nd it hard to get info from the expert judges and respected restorers of th=
ese cars. I=E2=80=99d love to know more specifics on the color and or sourc=
e that experts in TRA think correct. Also, I heard Macy=E2=80=99s Garage h=
ad an early TR4at the last TRA event. Does anyone have any detailed photos=
of that car they could share. The few I saw looked magnificent and they h=
ave such a great reputation.
Thanks so much,
Jim Henningsen
Sent from my iPad
Judging guide Reference Should be TRA, my oversight.
Bill
If y=E2=80=99all will allow one more =E2=80=9Cauthority=E2=80=9D to weigh i=
n, the VTR Judging Guidlines state, =E2=80=9CThe canister is painted ice bl=
ue (specific color unknown) which takes a pale green caste with age.=E2=80=
=9D
I=E2=80=99ll stick with my Valspar Peacock Blue.
Cheers,
Bill
Sent from my Motorola 8000X
=2Ehiscock@gmail.com> > wrote:
The TR Register (UK) forum had a thread on the subject of oil filter canist=
er housings a few years ago.
https://www.tr-register.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/44252-oil-filter-bowl=
/
Note especially the comments by our late, great friend Alec Pringle about h=
is experience with lots of variations and the quite realistic comment that =
S-T were a lot more worried about keeping lines going and spares supplied t=
han getting details "right" around shade.
The thread has some useful info, but this is one of those don't-sweat-it su=
bjects around our cars.
Don
1962 TR3B TSF202L
On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 11:01 PM James Henningsen <trguy75@gmail.com <mailt=
o:trguy75@gmail.com> > wrote:
Anyone have a source for correct paint color on early 1962 TR4 oil filter c=
anister housing. TRA judging manual says ice blue that patinas to a pale g=
reen. Looking for a color code I can give my paint shop. Thanks to any c=
oncours experts out there.
Jim Henningsen
Ocala FL
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nk=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'm=
so-fareast-language:EN-US'>Jim<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><s=
pan style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p cla=
ss=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>In the rebuild of=
your car, did you by chance find any obscure markings in yellow or white c=
hinagraph chalk on the engine block? These were common identifiers used at =
the factory that were understood by those who worked in engine assembly =E2=
=80=93 but no-one else. Primarily, the mark was to distinguish the machined=
but unassembled block as being an ultimate engine for a North America spec=
car. Not all the blocks had these marks but I do know many others have enc=
ountered them years later and wondered what the hell they were. Being anxio=
us to replicate what had been there after re-painting the block, they repla=
ced the code. I=E2=80=99d be very surprised if TRA or VTR have extra marks =
in their judging books =E2=80=93 or even deduct marks if they weren=E2=80=
=99t there.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fa=
reast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><spa=
n style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Cheers, Jonmac<o:p></o:p></span></p>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> =
</o:p></span></p><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.=
0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US>F=
rom:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US> Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team=
=2Enet> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jim Henningsen<br><b>Sent:</b> 17 January 20=
19 12:31<br><b>To:</b> wbeech@flash.net<br><b>Cc:</b> Triumphs <triumphs=
@autox.team.net><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Paint code<o:p></o:p></span=
></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNo=
rmal>Bill:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I have the TRA judging g=
uide for the TR4 and have been using it as my plumb line for the restoratio=
n going back to 2010 when I purchased the car. The trick is what to t=
ell the auto paint store for a color to match that would be acceptable to j=
udges. My goal isn=E2=80=99t to beat everyone in a concours but to fa=
ithfully recreate the car as it was born. I am not interested in trop=
hies. Over the 8 years restoring this car, s I have sometimes found i=
t hard to get info from the expert judges and respected restorers of these =
cars. I=E2=80=99d love to know more specifics on the color and or source th=
at experts in TRA think correct. Also, I heard Macy=E2=80=99s Garage =
had an early TR4at the last TRA event. Does anyone have any detailed =
photos of that car they could share. The few I saw looked magnificent=
and they have such a great reputation. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Thanks so much,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNo=
rmal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Jim Henningsen<o:p></o:p></p><div id=3D=
AppleMailSignature><p class=3DMsoNormal>Sent from my iPad<o:p></o:p></p></d=
iv><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Jan 16, =
2019, at 10:42 PM, <a href=3D"mailto:Wbeech@flash.net";>Wbeech@flash.net</a>=
<<a href=3D"mailto:wbeech@flash.net";>wbeech@flash.net</a>> wrote:<o:=
p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt=
'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Judging guide Reference Should be TRA, my =
oversight. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Bill<o:p></o=
:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p c=
lass=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Jan 16, 2019, at 8:29 PM=
, <a href=3D"mailto:Wbeech@flash.net";>Wbeech@flash.net</a> <<a href=3D"m=
ailto:wbeech@flash.net">wbeech@flash.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div=
><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>If y=E2=80=99all will allow one more =E2=80=9Cau=
thority=E2=80=9D to weigh in, the VTR Judging Guidlines state, =E2=80=9CThe=
canister is painted ice blue (specific color unknown) which takes a pale g=
reen caste with age.=E2=80=9D<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>=
</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I=E2=80=99ll stick with my =
Valspar Peacock Blue. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><=
o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p><=
/div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Bill<o:p></o:=
p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Sent from my Motorola 8000X<o:p></o:p></p><=
/div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Jan 16=
, 2019, at 2:09 PM, Don Hiscock <<a href=3D"mailto:don.hiscock@gmail.com=
">don.hiscock@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><=
p class=3DMsoNormal>The TR Register (UK) forum had a thread on the subject =
of oil filter canister housings a few years ago.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p clas=
s=3DMsoNormal><a href=3D"https://www.tr-register.co.uk/forums/index.php?/to=
pic/44252-oil-filter-bowl/">https://www.tr-register.co.uk/forums/index.php?=
/topic/44252-oil-filter-bowl/</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNo=
rmal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Note especially t=
he comments by our late, great friend Alec Pringle about his experience wit=
h lots of variations and the quite realistic comment that S-T were a lot mo=
re worried about keeping lines going and spares supplied than getting detai=
ls "right" around shade.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoN=
ormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>The thread has s=
ome useful info, but this is one of those don't-sweat-it subjects around ou=
r cars.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>=
</div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Don<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMso=
Normal>1962 TR3B TSF202L<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=3DMsoNorm=
al><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On Tue, Jan 15, 2019=
at 11:01 PM James Henningsen <<a href=3D"mailto:trguy75@gmail.com";>trgu=
y75@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style=3D'borde=
r:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-lef=
t:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal>Anyone have a source for cor=
rect paint color on early 1962 TR4 oil filter canister housing. TRA j=
udging manual says ice blue that patinas to a pale green. Looking for=
a color code I can give my paint shop. Thanks to any concours =
experts out there. <br>Jim Henningsen <br>Ocala FL<br><br><br>Sent from my =
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