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Subject: [Fot] TR6 transmission rebuild - counter shaft gears
From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2018 14:04:03 +0000 (UTC)
References: <4217F2D0-224C-4534-A59F-147459EEF066@icloud.com> <004401d3882f$b3f51460$1bdf3d20$@att.net> <51579C47-CFE7-49A5-BB90-4DD857A364CC@icloud.com> <005501d38834$2cdf8780$869e9680$@att.net>
Hi All,
I recently had to deal with getting a recalcitrant rear thrust washer out of 
the case after the front one had spun - I wound up making a loop of .035 safety 
wire to fit around the rear washer and looped the other end around a pry bar 
and lifted straight up. I was able to get the washer in a position to grab it 
with a really small channel lock plier and pull the washer out. Others already 
commented on making sure that the lay gear isn't cock-eyed in the case.
You def. want to double check the layshaft end-for this case when you get the 
thing apart.
C ya,Bob Lang 
339-927-4489
 

    On Monday, January 8, 2018 12:44 AM, M&M Hado via Fot <fot at 
autox.team.net> wrote:
 

 When the rear washer is not bound, jammed, or damaged, it simply slides out
since it has .007 - .012" clearance, if the gear float is within spec.
Also, there is an anti-rotation tab that lines up with a slot in the casing.
If the washer had rotated beyond the point where the tab and slot normally
line up, then it's probably jammed and tougher to move or remove.? You
should be able to see the washer through the end hole in the casing after
removing the layshaft which you already have out.? You might be able to move
the washer with a small screwdriver or ice pick tool.? Try to get the whole
assembly square so the gear isn't cocked which would jam it further.? It has
to slide out evenly at both ends.? If you have a new washer, you can see the
anti-rotation tab I'm referring to.

Mike


-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Blake [mailto:gblake58tr3 at icloud.com] 
Sent: Sunday, January 7, 2018 9:24 PM
To: mhado at att.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 transmission rebuild - counter shaft gears

Mike,

How do I get that rear washer to drop out?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 7, 2018, at 9:20 PM, M&M Hado <mhado at att.net> wrote:
> 
> Greg,
> 
> It sounds like one or both of the laygear thrust washers are jammed or 
> damaged which is preventing you from moving the cluster.? Also, the 
> smaller or rear thrust washer has to be removed before you can slide 
> out the assembly in the first place.? That 1/16" or so of extra 
> movement (after the small washer is out) allows the cluster to move to 
> that end and clear the forward end boss in the casing.? Once you get 
> the gears out be sure to check the condition of the casing on both 
> ends where the washers are up against the casing.? I've got several extra
TR6 boxes in case you need one.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg Blake 
> via Fot
> Sent: Sunday, January 7, 2018 6:24 PM
> To: Fot
> Subject: [Fot] TR6 transmission rebuild - counter shaft gears
> 
> I am rebuilding a TR6 transmission and ran into a strange snag. When I 
> removed the countershaft the counter shaft gears did not drop to the 
> bottom of the case. I had to tap on the counter shaft gear set with a 
> brass punch to get them to move far enough to allow the input shaft 
> and gear to be removed. Now that I have the main shaft out of the 
> case, I can't get the counter shaft gears out of the case. I've been 
> able to move them a little bit by tapping on the gears with a brass 
> punch through the drain hole but I can't get them out. Has anyone run 
> into this before?? Any ideas to get them out?
> 
> Thanks. 
> 
> Greg
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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