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RE: Sptfire Clutch problems

To: "'Chris Prugh'" <prubrew@ix.netcom.com>, "'RICHARD.JACKSON@NENE.AC.UK'" <RICHARD.JACKSON@NENE.AC.UK>, "'steve.gailey@nomura.co.uk'" <steve.gailey@nomura.co.uk>
Subject: RE: Sptfire Clutch problems
From: Ralph Jannelli <rjannelli@uncc.campus.mci.net>
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 13:25:03 -0400
Cc: "'Kipping, John'" <john@johnkipping.demon.co.uk>, "'triumphs@autox.team.net'" <triumphs@Autox.Team.Net>
Chris - That's bad news and good news. The bad news is that some of these 
transmissions are defective the good news is you have restored my faith in my 
diagnostic abilities. Before learning of this my analysis led me to believe 
that the one way device in the OD must be slipping. Having never taken an OD 
apart I could not trust my judgment, the transmission was rebuilt by someone 
else who I trust and makes his living working on LBC, specifically lots of 
TR's. Question is it possible to know from just looking a the parts and know if 
one is bad or is the only way to actually drive it?


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From:  Chris Prugh[SMTP:prubrew@ix.netcom.com]
Sent:  Monday, April 14, 1997 11:19 PM
To:  'RICHARD.JACKSON@NENE.AC.UK'; 'Ralph Jannelli'; 'steve.gailey@nomura.co.uk'
Cc:  'Kipping, John'; 'triumphs@autox.team.net'
Subject:  RE: Sptfire Clutch problems

Ralph, et al - 

        Really bad news....this unfortunately is the case.  I did the  same 
swap, late model single rail w/OD into my 72 and sure enough it would slip at 
the same circumstances you describe.  This was the general consensus at the 
time:

Taken from page 29 of the Kipping catalog, second edition, July 1995
        

        A few units left with badly made one way bearings, funny noises and 
slipping when starting off  (original fitment 79-81 cars).  If unit behaves 
very differently when hot and cold, the cause is        the solenoid, not easy 
to repair.

I would add to this that the symptoms become almost predictable, such as a long 
freeway cruise in O/D, followed by a complete stop at the exit.  Slippage will 
more than likely occur should the clutch be let out too fast and the stomping 
of the gas pedal is a very likely contributor.  I have decided to live with it 
for the time being as I grew tired of pulling the trans (after the fifth time). 
 I will have it rrebuilt when the shell goes in for paint (prob'ly 98).

        Please keep me posted with any further info you should come by and/or 
recommended rebuilding sources.

Good Luck

Chris Prugh
72 Spitfar



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