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Re: [Tigers] dipstick tube 260CID engine

To: Gary <garywinblad@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] dipstick tube 260CID engine
From: D or G at sbc via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2020 05:33:11 +0000 (UTC)
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 Gary, I don't think Rootes left them off, but removing the dust cover woul=
d make them loose, they couldn't get them back on as tight as they were ori=
ginally, so eventually they worked there way off from use.
David

    On Thursday, February 27, 2020, 6:31:50 PM PST, Gary <garywinblad@comca=
st.net> wrote: =20
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 David,YES, they are as per the factory doc.I=E2=80=99ve had MK1 number 622=
 since 1971 and585 since 1995. =C2=A0=C2=A0Both same stick, no hood, I thou=
ght theyleft them off but Paul Reisentz insistedthey all had them originall=
y.Gary

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 27, 2020, at 5:54 PM, D or G at sbc <orr4sale@sbcglobal.net> wrote:



=EF=BB=BF Now that Buck Trippel supplied the Rootes drawing for altering th=
e dip stick, I see what the reason might be for the missing "little hood" d=
ust cover. Could it be Rootes removed it to re-curve the dip stick pull? So=
 now they were loose? It is very hard to get this dust cover off, I find it=
 hard to believe they just fell off.
Gary, are you dip sticks the short finger pull type?
As far as I know the dust cover isn't available.

David Franchi

    On Thursday, February 27, 2020, 5:23:23 PM PST, Gary via Tigers <tigers=
@autox.team.net> wrote: =20
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  Is just the little hood available anywhere?=C2=A0 I have two MK1s that bo=
th were missing the hood when I
 got them.
 Gary
=20
 On 2/27/2020 4:43 PM, Ron Fraser via Tigers wrote:
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Here is a older email from David
=20
Note:
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I found an old email from David Franchi that may help.
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 =C2=A0
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The original dip stick & tube measurements are:
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 =C2=A0
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Stick - 24 7/16" from the tip to the inside top of the "bell" cover/dust gu=
ard. Oil "add" mark 1 1/8" from tip, oil "full" mark 2" from tip.
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Tube - 15 15/16" overall.
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14 3/4" from the top of the "stop/seating ring" (were it goes into the timi=
ng gear cover) to the top of the tube=20
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 =C2=A0
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7 5/16" from the top of the tube to the center of the "mounting wing"
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 =C2=A0
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With the stick installed in the tube, the tip of the stick protrudes 9 1/2"=
 out of the end of the tube. (measured from the tip of the stick to the bot=
tom of the tube "stop/seating ring") David Franchi
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 =C2=A0
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Ron Fraser
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 =C2=A0
  =20
From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of D or G at sbc via=
 Tigers
 Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 6:10 PM
 To: tigers@autox.team.net; rick@atmospherebuilders.com
 Subject: Re: [Tigers] dipstick tube 260CID engine
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The long handle Tiger dip stick is a standard Ford part (originally from a =
1962 Fairlane, it was used on early small block Fords until around early 19=
65) with the handle bent to clear the Tiger hood.=20
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 =C2=A0
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The short handle (finger pull) Tiger dip stick is the same as the long hand=
le, except Rootes cut off the handle and had it made shorter, this is easy =
to do with a jig (I have done it without any problem)
  =20
 =C2=A0
  =20
The tube is a Ford part C2OZ-6754-A, it has to be bent slightly to fit the =
Tiger. Neither are available from Ford, but they are reproductions availabl=
e made for early Mustangs etc.
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 =C2=A0
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David Franchi
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On Thursday, February 27, 2020, 2:27:08 PM PST, Richard Hyatt via Tigers <t=
igers@autox.team.net> wrote:=20
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When I got my engine back from a high performance machine shop, they happil=
y pointed out the new chrome dipstick and dipstick tube they had obtained a=
nd installed in the process. Unfortunately this will not fit correctly as y=
ou can imagine. Mysteriously although they had returned some other parts, t=
he dipstick was missing and the old tube battered to the point of no use. I=
 am hoping to find a solution=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6.not sure if anyone has ever=
 made a pattern of the original tube or has any ideas. Thanks.
=20
Rick
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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Gary, I don't think Rootes l=
eft them off, but removing the dust cover would make them loose, they could=
n't get them back on as tight as they were originally, so eventually they w=
orked there way off from use.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><=
br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">David<br></div><div><br></d=
iv>
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                    On Thursday, February 27, 2020, 6:31:50 PM PST, Gary &l=
t;garywinblad@comcast.net&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"ydpc5c67df8yiv1670779228"><div>David,<div>Y=
ES, they are as per the factory doc.</div><div>I=E2=80=99ve had MK1 number =
622 since 1971 and</div><div>585 since 1995. &nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div>Both sa=
me stick, no hood, I thought they</div><div>left them off but Paul Reisentz=
 insisted</div><div>they all had them originally.</div><div>Gary</div><div>=
<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone<=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"ydpc5c67df8yiv1670779228yqt4245728431" =
id=3D"ydpc5c67df8yiv1670779228yqtfd92987"><br clear=3D"none"><blockquote ty=
pe=3D"cite">On Feb 27, 2020, at 5:54 PM, D or G at sbc &lt;orr4sale@sbcglob=
al.net&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></blockquote></div><=
/div><div class=3D"ydpc5c67df8yiv1670779228yqt4245728431" id=3D"ydpc5c67df8=
yiv1670779228yqtfd26809"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=
=BF<div class=3D"ydpc5c67df8yiv1670779228ydpd9f76c3yahoo-style-wrap" style=
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;"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Now that <span>Buck Trippel =
supplied=20
the Rootes drawing for altering the dip stick, I see what the reason=20
might be for the missing "little hood" dust cover. Could it be Rootes=20
removed it to re-curve the dip stick pull? So now they were loose? It is
 very hard to get this dust cover off, I find it hard to believe they=20
just fell off.</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span><br clear=3D"none"></span=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span>Gary, are you dip sticks the short finger pul=
l type?</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span><br clear=3D"none"></span></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr"><span>As far as I know the dust cover isn't available.<br =
clear=3D"none"></span></div><div><span><br clear=3D"none"></span></div><div=
><span>David Franchi</span></div></div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div></div>=
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
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ans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;">
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                    On Thursday, February 27, 2020, 5:23:23 PM PST, Gary vi=
a Tigers &lt;tigers@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
                <div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
                <div><div id=3D"ydpc5c67df8yiv1670779228ydp46350f6cyiv42173=
55751"><div>
    Is just the little hood available anywhere?&nbsp; I have two MK1s that
    both were missing the hood when I<br clear=3D"none">
    got them.<br clear=3D"none">
    Gary<br clear=3D"none">
    <br clear=3D"none">
    <div class=3D"ydpc5c67df8yiv1670779228ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751yqt610165=
0768" id=3D"ydpc5c67df8yiv1670779228ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751yqt02697"><div =
class=3D"ydpc5c67df8yiv1670779228ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751moz-cite-prefix">O=
n 2/27/2020 4:43 PM, Ron Fraser via
      Tigers wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
      </blockquote></div></div><div class=3D"ydpc5c67df8yiv1670779228ydp463=
50f6cyiv4217355751yqt6101650768" id=3D"ydpc5c67df8yiv1670779228ydp46350f6cy=
iv4217355751yqt35299"><div><div class=3D"ydpc5c67df8yiv1670779228ydp46350f6=
cyiv4217355751WordSection1">
        <p class=3D"ydpc5c67df8yiv1670779228ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751MsoNorm=
al">Here is a older email from David</p>=20
        <p class=3D"ydpc5c67df8yiv1670779228ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751MsoNorm=
al">Note:</p>=20
        <p class=3D"ydpc5c67df8yiv1670779228ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751MsoNorm=
al">I found an old email from David Franchi
          that may help.</p>=20
        <p class=3D"ydpc5c67df8yiv1670779228ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751MsoNorm=
al"> &nbsp;</p>=20
        <p class=3D"ydpc5c67df8yiv1670779228ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751MsoNorm=
al">The original dip stick &amp; tube
          measurements are:</p>=20
        <p class=3D"ydpc5c67df8yiv1670779228ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751MsoNorm=
al"> &nbsp;</p>=20
        <p class=3D"ydpc5c67df8yiv1670779228ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751MsoNorm=
al">Stick - 24 7/16" from the tip to the inside
          top of the "bell" cover/dust guard. Oil "add" mark 1 1/8" from
          tip, oil "full" mark 2" from tip.</p>=20
        <p class=3D"ydpc5c67df8yiv1670779228ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751MsoNorm=
al">--</p>=20
        <p class=3D"ydpc5c67df8yiv1670779228ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751MsoNorm=
al">Tube - 15 15/16" overall.</p>=20
        <p class=3D"ydpc5c67df8yiv1670779228ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751MsoNorm=
al"> </p>=20
        <p class=3D"ydpc5c67df8yiv1670779228ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751MsoNorm=
al">14 3/4" from the top of the "stop/seating
          ring" (were it goes into the timing gear cover) to the top of
          the tube </p>=20
        <p class=3D"ydpc5c67df8yiv1670779228ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751MsoNorm=
al"> &nbsp;</p>=20
        <p class=3D"ydpc5c67df8yiv1670779228ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751MsoNorm=
al">7 5/16" from the top of the tube to the
          center of the "mounting wing"</p>=20
        <p class=3D"ydpc5c67df8yiv1670779228ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751MsoNorm=
al"> &nbsp;</p>=20
        <p class=3D"ydpc5c67df8yiv1670779228ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751MsoNorm=
al">With the stick installed in the tube, the
          tip of the stick protrudes 9 1/2" out of the end of the tube.
          (measured from the tip of the stick to the bottom of the tube
          "stop/seating ring") David Franchi</p>=20
        <p class=3D"ydpc5c67df8yiv1670779228ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751MsoNorm=
al"> &nbsp;</p>=20
        <p class=3D"ydpc5c67df8yiv1670779228ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751MsoNorm=
al">Ron Fraser</p>=20
        <p class=3D"ydpc5c67df8yiv1670779228ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751MsoNorm=
al"> &nbsp;</p>=20
        <div>
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tcolor;border-style:solid none none;border-width:1pt medium medium;padding:=
3pt 0in 0in;">
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Normal"><b>From:</b> Tigers
              <a shape=3D"rect" class=3D"ydpc5c67df8yiv1670779228ydp46350f6=
cyiv4217355751moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.te=
am.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">&lt;tigers-bounces@autox.team.ne=
t&gt;</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>D
              or G at sbc via Tigers<br clear=3D"none">
              <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 27, 2020 6:10 PM<br clear=3D"=
none">
              <b>To:</b> <a shape=3D"rect" class=3D"ydpc5c67df8yiv167077922=
8ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:tigers@au=
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              <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] dipstick tube 260CID engine</p>=
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                <p class=3D"ydpc5c67df8yiv1670779228ydp46350f6cyiv421735575=
1MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">The
                    long handle Tiger dip stick is a standard Ford part
                    (originally from a 1962 Fairlane, it was used on
                    early small block Fords until around early 1965)
                    with the handle bent to clear the Tiger hood. </span></=
p>=20
              </div>
              <p class=3D"ydpc5c67df8yiv1670779228ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751M=
soNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;"> &nbsp;</span></p>=20
              <div>
                <p class=3D"ydpc5c67df8yiv1670779228ydp46350f6cyiv421735575=
1MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">The
                    short handle (finger pull) Tiger dip stick is the
                    same as the long handle, except Rootes cut off the
                    handle and had it made shorter, this is easy to do
                    with a jig (I have done it without any problem)</span><=
/p>=20
              </div>
              <div>
                <p class=3D"ydpc5c67df8yiv1670779228ydp46350f6cyiv421735575=
1MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;"> &nbsp;</span></p>=20
              </div>
              <div>
                <p class=3D"ydpc5c67df8yiv1670779228ydp46350f6cyiv421735575=
1MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">The
                    tube is a Ford part C2OZ-6754-A, it has to be bent
                    slightly to fit the Tiger. Neither are available
                    from Ford, but they are reproductions available made
                    for early Mustangs etc.</span></p>=20
              </div>
              <div>
                <p class=3D"ydpc5c67df8yiv1670779228ydp46350f6cyiv421735575=
1MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;"> &nbsp;</span></p>=20
              </div>
              <p class=3D"ydpc5c67df8yiv1670779228ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751M=
soNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">David
                  Franchi</span></p>=20
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              <p class=3D"ydpc5c67df8yiv1670779228ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751M=
soNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;"> &nbsp;</span></p>=20
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            <p class=3D"ydpc5c67df8yiv1670779228ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751Mso=
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              <p class=3D"ydpc5c67df8yiv1670779228ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751M=
soNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">On
                  Thursday, February 27, 2020, 2:27:08 PM PST, Richard
                  Hyatt via Tigers &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:tig=
ers@autox.team.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.ne=
t</a>&gt;
                  wrote: </span></p>=20
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soNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;"> &nbsp;</span></p>=20
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soNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;"> &nbsp;</span></p>=20
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en
                        I got my engine back from a high performance
                        machine shop, they happily pointed out the new
                        chrome dipstick and dipstick tube they had
                        obtained and installed in the process.
                        Unfortunately this will not fit correctly as you
                        can imagine. Mysteriously although they had
                        returned some other parts, the dipstick was
                        missing and the old tube battered to the point
                        of no use. I am hoping to find a solution=E2=80=A6=
=E2=80=A6.not
                        sure if anyone has ever made a pattern of the
                        original tube or has any ideas. Thanks.</span></p>=
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