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I did not see this email come through so I=E2=80=99m resending plus =
adding some thoughts.
=20
1224808 is a Rootes part number and now Buck has provided the proof that =
Rootes modified this part, Rootes removed the Ford part number from the =
Parts list.
I do have a note in my Parts List 6601131 that 1224808 is C4JZ-6750-A
=20
6100734 indicates a Ford part number =E2=80=93 to me this indicates Ford =
made a design change to the dipstick and Rootes stopped modifying the =
part.
=20
Ron Fraser
=20
From: Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com>=20
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 10:01 PM
To: 'Buck Trippel' <bucktrippel@verizon.net>; 'D or G at sbc' =
<orr4sale@sbcglobal.net>; 'rick@atmospherebuilders.com' =
<rick@atmospherebuilders.com>
Cc: 'tigers@autox.team.net' <tigers@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: [Tigers] dipstick tube 260CID engine
=20
Buck=20
I have 1 catalog that shows a C3OZ-6750-B dipstick which =
has almost exact measure as C2OZ-6750-B.
I=E2=80=99m not sure why there is a suffix letter change from =
C2OZ-6750-A =E2=80=93 the measurements look the same.
There is no illustration of these parts to indicate differences.
=20
C2OZ-6750-B before 8/20/64
C3OZ-6750-B after 8/20/64
=20
Ron Fraser
=20
From: Buck Trippel <bucktrippel@verizon.net =
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 9:37 PM
To: 'D or G at sbc' <orr4sale@sbcglobal.net =
Subject: RE: [Tigers] dipstick tube 260CID engine
=20
There are two part numbers in the Parts Manual for dipsticks.
=20
I found a drawing of the earlier version (1224808) but was unsuccessful =
on the latter (6100734).
=20
The drawing I found referenced Ford part number C20E-6750-A, but I doubt =
they differed very much.
=20
Buck
=20
=20
From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net =
Tigers
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 5:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Tigers] dipstick tube 260CID engine
=20
Scott Drake has them but you can't purchase them directly from him, you =
have to go through one of his dealers (they are all over the US).
=20
I find it strange that Rootes shows the Ford part number for the dip =
stick tube which has to be bent to work in a Tiger, but they don't show =
a Ford number for the long finger pull dip stick which is a regular Ford =
stick with the end bent to about 85 degrees, way easier to do than the =
tube.
=20
David Franchi
=20
On Thursday, February 27, 2020, 4:58:02 PM PST, Ron Fraser via Tigers < =
> wrote:=20
=20
=20
Darn I forgot to include
Most of the Mustang and Falcon catalogs should carry these parts.
I believe Scott Drake is making them.
=20
Ron Fraser
=20
From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net =
Tigers
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Tigers] dipstick tube 260CID engine
=20
Here is some additional info
=20
Tube =E2=80=93 C2OZ-6754-A is listed by Ford at 15.83=E2=80=9D long, for =
260 and 289 engines with generator
I measured my tube at very near this length with about 14 =
=C2=BE=E2=80=9D above the timing cover to its end.
=20
Dipstick - C30Z-6750-B=20
This is the Ford part number listed for 1964, 260 and 289 engines with =
generators.
22.48" shield to FULL
23.32" shield to ADD=20
24.44" shield to end
This is extremely close to the measurements I took on my dipstick.
Additionally: Width =3D .295=E2=80=9D Thickness =3D .060=E2=80=9D
=20
Ron Fraser
=20
From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net =
Tigers
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 5:27 PM
Subject: [Tigers] dipstick tube 260CID engine
=20
When I got my engine back from a high performance machine shop, they =
happily pointed out the new chrome dipstick and dipstick tube they had =
obtained and installed in the process. Unfortunately this will not fit =
correctly as you can imagine. Mysteriously although they had returned =
some other parts, the dipstick was missing and the old tube battered to =
the point of no use. I am hoping to find a =
solution=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6.not sure if anyone has ever made a pattern of =
the original tube or has any ideas. Thanks.
Rick
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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>I did not =
see this email come through so I=E2=80=99m resending plus adding some =
thoughts.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>1224808 is a Rootes part number and now Buck has =
provided the proof that Rootes modified this part, Rootes removed the =
Ford part number from the Parts list.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I do have a note in my Parts List 6601131 that 1224808 =
is C4JZ-6750-A<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>6100734 =
indicates a Ford part number =E2=80=93 to me this indicates Ford made a =
design change to the dipstick and Rootes stopped modifying the =
part.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Ron Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Ron Fraser =
<rfraser@bluefrog.com> <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 27, =
2020 10:01 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Buck Trippel' =
<bucktrippel@verizon.net>; 'D or G at sbc' =
<orr4sale@sbcglobal.net>; 'rick@atmospherebuilders.com' =
<rick@atmospherebuilders.com><br><b>Cc:</b> =
'tigers@autox.team.net' <tigers@autox.team.net><br><b>Subject:</b> =
RE: [Tigers] dipstick tube 260CID engine<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Buck =
<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> &=
nbsp; I have 1 catalog that shows a =
C3OZ-6750-B dipstick which has almost exact measure as =
C2OZ-6750-B.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I=E2=80=99m not sure why =
there is a suffix letter change from C2OZ-6750-A =E2=80=93 the =
measurements look the same.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>There is =
no illustration of these parts to indicate differences.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>C2OZ-6750-B =
before 8/20/64<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>C3OZ-6750-B after =
8/20/64<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Ron Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Buck Trippel <<a =
href=3D"mailto:bucktrippel@verizon.net";>bucktrippel@verizon.net</a>> =
<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 27, 2020 9:37 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'D or =
G at sbc' <<a =
href=3D"mailto:orr4sale@sbcglobal.net";>orr4sale@sbcglobal.net</a>>; =
'Ron Fraser' <<a =
href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com";>rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>>; <a =
href=3D"mailto:rick@atmospherebuilders.com";>rick@atmospherebuilders.com</=
a><br><b>Cc:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Sub=
ject:</b> RE: [Tigers] dipstick tube 260CID =
engine<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>There are =
two part numbers in the Parts Manual for dipsticks.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I found a =
drawing of the earlier version (1224808) but was unsuccessful on the =
latter (6100734).<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>The drawing =
I found referenced Ford part number C20E-6750-A, but I doubt they =
differed very much.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Buck<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Tigers <<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net";>tigers-bounces@autox.team.n=
et</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>D or G at sbc via Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> =
Thursday, February 27, 2020 5:23 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Ron Fraser' <<a =
href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com";>rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>>; <a =
href=3D"mailto:rick@atmospherebuilders.com";>rick@atmospherebuilders.com</=
a><br><b>Cc:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Sub=
ject:</b> Re: [Tigers] dipstick tube 260CID =
engine<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Scott =
Drake has them but you can't purchase them directly from him, you have =
to go through one of his dealers (they are all over the =
US).<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> =
</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>I find it =
strange that Rootes shows the Ford part number for the dip stick tube =
which has to be bent to work in a Tiger, but they don't show a Ford =
number for the long finger pull dip stick which is a regular Ford stick =
with the end bent to about 85 degrees, way easier to do than the =
tube.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> =
</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>David =
Franchi<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> =
</o:p></span></p></div></div><div =
id=3D"ydp5bc9d1d1yahoo_quoted_2941072196"><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>On Thursday, February 27, 2020, 4:58:02 PM PST, Ron Fraser via Tigers =
< > wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div =
id=3Dydp5bc9d1d1yiv0939612060><div><div><p =
class=3Dydp5bc9d1d1yiv0939612060msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Darn I forgot to include<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3Dydp5bc9d1d1yiv0939612060msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Most of the Mustang and Falcon catalogs should carry these =
parts.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3Dydp5bc9d1d1yiv0939612060msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>I believe Scott Drake is making them.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3Dydp5bc9d1d1yiv0939612060msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3Dydp5bc9d1d1yiv0939612060msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Ron Fraser<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3Dydp5bc9d1d1yiv0939612060msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div =
id=3Dydp5bc9d1d1yiv0939612060yqt36126><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor'><p =
class=3Dydp5bc9d1d1yiv0939612060msonormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>From:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'> Tigers <<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net";>tigers-bounces@autox.team.n=
et</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron Fraser via Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> =
Thursday, February 27, 2020 7:51 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:rick@atmospherebuilders.com";>rick@atmospherebuilders.com</=
a><br><b>Cc:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@Autox.Team.Net";>tigers@Autox.Team.Net</a><br><b>Sub=
ject:</b> Re: [Tigers] dipstick tube 260CID =
engine<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3Dydp5bc9d1d1yiv0939612060msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3Dydp5bc9d1d1yiv0939612060msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Here is some additional info<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3Dydp5bc9d1d1yiv0939612060msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3Dydp5bc9d1d1yiv0939612060msonormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Tube =E2=80=93 C2OZ-6754-A</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'> is listed by Ford at 15.83=E2=80=9D long, for 260 and 289 engines =
with generator<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3Dydp5bc9d1d1yiv0939612060msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>I measured my tube at very near this length with about 14 =
=C2=BE=E2=80=9D above the timing cover to its =
end.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3Dydp5bc9d1d1yiv0939612060msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3Dydp5bc9d1d1yiv0939612060msonormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Dipstick -</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'> <b>C30Z-6750-B </b><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3Dydp5bc9d1d1yiv0939612060msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>This is the Ford part number listed for 1964, 260 and 289 engines =
with generators.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3Dydp5bc9d1d1yiv0939612060msonormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>22.48"</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'> shield to FULL<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3Dydp5bc9d1d1yiv0939612060msonormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>23.32"</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'> shield to ADD <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3Dydp5bc9d1d1yiv0939612060msonormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>24.44"</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'> shield to end<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3Dydp5bc9d1d1yiv0939612060msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>This is extremely close to the measurements I took on my =
dipstick.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3Dydp5bc9d1d1yiv0939612060msonormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Additionally: Width =3D =
.295=E2=80=9D Thickness =3D =
.060=E2=80=9D</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3Dydp5bc9d1d1yiv0939612060msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3Dydp5bc9d1d1yiv0939612060msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Ron Fraser<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3Dydp5bc9d1d1yiv0939612060msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor'><p =
class=3Dydp5bc9d1d1yiv0939612060msonormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>From:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'> Tigers <<a href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">tigers-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Richard Hyatt via Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 27, 2020 =
5:27 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Tigers] =
dipstick tube 260CID engine<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
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A'>When I got my engine back from a high performance machine shop, they =
happily pointed out the new chrome dipstick and dipstick tube they had =
obtained and installed in the process. Unfortunately this will not fit =
correctly as you can imagine. Mysteriously although they had returned =
some other parts, the dipstick was missing and the old tube battered to =
the point of no use. I am hoping to find a =
solution=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6.not sure if anyone has ever made a pattern of =
the original tube or has any ideas. Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
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