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Re: [Tigers] Dipstick and oil level report

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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Dipstick and oil level report
From: Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 20:05:19 -0400
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Mark
    The real question is -  what was stock?  =20
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What was the original stock Tiger engine angle?
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Did a brand new Tiger read the correct oil level back in the day?
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My next experiment will be how much do I need to jack up the front of my
Tiger to obtain the correct dipstick reading with 4 qts in the sump.
I just don't know when I will have time to do that experiment.
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Ron Fraser

-----Original Message-----
From: CoolVT@aol.com [mailto:CoolVT@aol.com]=20
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 6:45 PM
To: rfraser@bluefrog.com; tigers@Autox.Team.Net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Dipstick and oil level report



That raises the question  what  can cause the engine to tilt very far =
from
stock.....missing the thick washers on the motor mounts, worn motor =
mounts,
incorrect (inferior) motor mounts,  using a non standard or worn or =
broken
tranny mount, ? Anything else?  Or a non stock oil pan?
Mark L
=20
In a message dated 10/21/2015 5:52:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
tigers@autox.team.net writes:


Update
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With the oil pan level
10 qts - level is at the rear main seal lip of the oil pan
=20
Tilted 2 degrees down at front of engine - fluid level to oil pick up =
screen
relationship
=20
1pt - level is below the dipstick - just getting the oil pick up screen =
wet
1Qt -  level is about 1/8" on the dipstick - covers about 2/3 of the oil
pick up screen
3pt - level is about 1/4" on the dipstick - covers about 3/4 of the =
screen
2Qt - level is about 1/8" below ADD line - oil pick up screen assembly =
is
just covered
5pt - level is about 1/16" above ADD line - oil pick up screen assembly =
is
covered
3Qt - level is about 1/16" above the Mid Line
=20
This indicates that if you have a similar engine angle situation you =
better
start think about an oil change if the dipstick oil level read between =
the
ADD line and the Mid line.  You are at the 2 to 3 Qts oil in the sump.  =
You
definitely need an oil add or change if the oil level reading is near =
the
ADD line meaning about 2 Qts oil in the sump.
=20
Ron Fraser


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<DIV><SPAN class=3D359535423-21102015>Mark</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D359535423-21102015>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The real =
question is -=20
&nbsp;what was stock?&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D359535423-21102015></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D359535423-21102015>What was the original=20
stock&nbsp;Tiger&nbsp;engine angle?</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D359535423-21102015></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D359535423-21102015>Did a brand new Tiger read the =
correct oil=20
level back in the day?</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D359535423-21102015></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D359535423-21102015>My next experiment will be how =
much do I=20
need to jack up&nbsp;the front of my&nbsp;Tiger to obtain the correct =
dipstick=20
reading with 4 qts in the sump.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D359535423-21102015>I just don't know when I will have =
time to=20
do that experiment.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D359535423-21102015></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D359535423-21102015>Ron Fraser</SPAN></DIV>
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  <DIV dir=3Dltr lang=3Den-us class=3DOutlookMessageHeader =
align=3Dleft><FONT size=3D2=20
  face=3DTahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =
CoolVT@aol.com=20
  [mailto:CoolVT@aol.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, October 21, 2015 =
6:45=20
  PM<BR><B>To:</B> rfraser@bluefrog.com;=20
  tigers@Autox.Team.Net<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Tigers] Dipstick and oil =
level=20
  report<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT id=3Drole_document color=3D#000000 =
size=3D3=20
  face=3DArial>
  <DIV><STRONG>That raises the question &nbsp;what&nbsp; can cause the =
engine to=20
  tilt very far from stock.....missing the thick washers on the motor =
mounts,=20
  worn motor mounts, incorrect (inferior) motor mounts, &nbsp;using a =
non=20
  standard or worn or broken tranny mount, ? Anything else? &nbsp;Or a =
non stock=20
  oil pan?</STRONG></DIV>
  <DIV><STRONG>Mark L</STRONG></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>
  <DIV>In a message dated 10/21/2015 5:52:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, =

  tigers@autox.team.net writes:</DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE=20
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face=3DArial>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
    class=3D421100621-21102015>Update</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
    class=3D421100621-21102015></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
    class=3D421100621-21102015>With the oil pan =
level</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
class=3D421100621-21102015>10=20
    qts -&nbsp;level is at the rear main seal lip of the oil=20
    pan</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
    class=3D421100621-21102015></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
    class=3D421100621-21102015>Tilted 2 degrees down at front of engine =
- fluid=20
    level to oil pick up screen relationship</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
    class=3D421100621-21102015></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
    class=3D421100621-21102015>1pt - level is below the dipstick - just =
getting=20
    the oil pick up screen wet</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
    class=3D421100621-21102015>1Qt -&nbsp; level is about 1/8" on the =
dipstick -=20
    covers about 2/3 of the oil pick up screen</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
    class=3D421100621-21102015>3pt - level is about 1/4" on the dipstick =
- covers=20
    about 3/4 of the screen</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
    class=3D421100621-21102015>2Qt - level is about 1/8" below ADD line =
- oil pick=20
    up screen assembly is just covered</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
    class=3D421100621-21102015>5pt - level is about 1/16" above ADD line =
- oil=20
    pick up screen assembly is covered</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
    class=3D421100621-21102015>3Qt - level is about 1/16" above the Mid=20
    Line</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
    class=3D421100621-21102015></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
    class=3D421100621-21102015>This indicates that if you have a similar =
engine=20
    angle&nbsp;situation you better start think about an oil change if =
the=20
    dipstick oil level read between the ADD line and the Mid line.&nbsp; =
You are=20
    at the 2 to 3 Qts oil in the sump.&nbsp; You definitely need an oil =
add or=20
    change if the oil level reading is&nbsp;near the ADD line =
meaning&nbsp;about=20
    2 Qts oil in the sump.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
    class=3D421100621-21102015></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
    class=3D421100621-21102015>Ron=20
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