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I=E2=80=99ll second that. A misspent youth riding Brit bikes proved =
early on that bad grounds cause all sorts of voodoo. I like to run an =
extra ground somewhere from the engine to the chassis. Also the battery =
is grounded to the chassis with a bolt-through, and corrosion loves to =
find its way inside there, clean it regularly.
Bugz
=20
From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of =
CoolVT--- via Tigers
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 8:16 PM
To: jliny5@cox.net; tigers@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Electrical Issue
=20
Jim,
People have found out that if the ground wire from engine to chassis is =
not clean and tight that all kinds of problems crop up. If you haven't =
checked that I would suggest that as one of your steps.
Mark
=20
In a message dated 4/14/2015 7:46:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, =
tigers@autox.team.net writes:
Hi Listers,
=20
Thank you all for your feedback. I thought I would give an update. It =
seems I have 2 problems. Everything went dead because it seems I have a =
loose connection somewhere along the battery wire (brown) to the V/R. I =
suspect my ammeter and the wiring for it have something to do with that. =
=20
The bigger problem is that my car is still NOT charging. This was my =
original problem and the reason I replaced the V/R in the first place. =
Now my ignition warning light is on full time. Many of you felt it was =
the generator, at least one believed it is a fault in the wiring. I too =
believed it was a generator problem. So today I removed the generator =
and took it to be rebuilt. I asked if we could bench test it before =
going through the effort/cost of rebuilding. They hooked up the =
generator and it tested out fine. We then added in the new and old V/Rs =
to the test. With the new V/R hooked up with the generator, it tested =
out at 12.7v...a little anemic. But with the old V/R connected (which I =
had just replaced), the test showed the generator putting out a solid =
14.5v (+/- a tenth or so).
=20
Bottomline...generator and V/R tested out fine. So it=E2=80=99s onto the =
wiring..
=20
Again, thanks for all the input and given the updated info we are still =
open to any ideas.
=20
Jim
=20
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2015 8:37 PM
Subject: Electrical Issue
=20
Hi All
I was getting my Tiger ready for the season and I noticed that I was not =
getting a charge at idle. The more the car warmed up, the more rpms it =
needed to keep the ignition lite off. Over the years I have experienced =
problems keeping a voltage regulator for any great length of time. They =
just seem to give up after not so long. This time I did pretty =
well=E2=80=A6it lasted over a year. I checked the battery and generator =
just to be sure=E2=80=A6the battery had a full charge and the generator =
was generating.
So I switched out the v/reg for one I purchased from SS as a backup last =
year. I have done this installation a couple of times so I was =
confident, even with my minimal skills.
I got the new v/reg in. Reconnected the battery but When I went to =
polarize it (touch F wire and B wire momentarily per Shop =
Manual)=E2=80=A6nothing. I checked my connections (Brown to Batt =
terminal=E2=80=A6Brn/Grn to Fld terminal=E2=80=A6Brn/Yel to Arm =
terminal) all were correct. I double checked battery=E2=80=A6full =
charge.
Thinking the v/reg might be bad, I reinstalled the old one=E2=80=A6same =
results=E2=80=A6nothing.
I installed new one again=E2=80=A6same results.
The only other action I took was to disconnect the terminals on the =
generator and cleaned them up. I checked to make sure I reconnected them =
correctly.
I took a chance and turned on the ignition=E2=80=A6dead.
After taking a break I went back out and did some more inspection and =
testing. Not sure if it made a difference but I found the battery wire =
(brown) spade connector at the fuse box loose. I crimped it down and got =
a much tighter fit. The v/reg still would not polarize so I then took =
some readings with my multimeter. Here are the readings=E2=80=A6
=20
Battery=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=
=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=
=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6.12.9v
Batt Term @ =
V/reg=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=
=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6..=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6..12.9v
Battery term @ =
solenoid=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=
=80=A6..=E2=80=A6..12.9V
Battery Term @ Gen (end of case)=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6..0
=20
I thought I should get a similar 12 something reading at the Batt =
terminal on the generator. Any advice on where to make additional tests =
or anything else is appreciated.=20
=20
I am pretty much a neophyte at this so please type slowly.
=20
Thanks
=20
Jim Lindner
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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546=
A'>I=E2=80=99ll second that. A misspent youth riding Brit bikes proved =
early on that bad grounds cause all sorts of voodoo. I like to run an =
extra ground somewhere from the engine to the chassis. Also the battery =
is grounded to the chassis with a bolt-through, and corrosion loves to =
find its way inside there, clean it regularly.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546=
A'>Bugz<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546=
A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>CoolVT--- via Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 14, 2015 8:16 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> jliny5@cox.net; =
tigers@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Electrical =
Issue<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Jim,<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>People have found =
out that if the ground wire from engine to chassis is not clean and =
tight that all kinds of problems crop up. If you haven't checked =
that I would suggest that as one of your =
steps.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Mark<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p><=
/span></p></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>In a message =
dated 4/14/2015 7:46:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, <a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</a> =
writes:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div>=
<div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Hi =
Listers,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p=
></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Thank you all =
for your feedback. I thought I would give an update. It seems I have 2 =
problems. Everything went dead because it seems I have a loose =
connection somewhere along the battery wire (brown) to the V/R. I =
suspect my ammeter and the wiring for it have something to do with that. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p=
></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>The bigger =
problem is that my car is still NOT charging. This was my original =
problem and the reason I replaced the V/R in the first place. Now my =
ignition warning light is on full time. Many of you felt it was the =
generator, at least one believed it is a fault in the wiring. I too =
believed it was a generator problem. So today I removed the generator =
and took it to be rebuilt. I asked if we could bench test it before =
going through the effort/cost of rebuilding. They hooked up the =
generator and it tested out fine. We then added in the new and old V/Rs =
to the test. With the new V/R hooked up with the generator, it tested =
out at 12.7v...a little anemic. But with the old V/R connected (which I =
had just replaced), the test showed the generator putting out a solid =
14.5v (+/- a tenth or so).<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p=
></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Bottomline...gen=
erator and V/R tested out fine. So it=E2=80=99s onto the =
wiring..<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p=
></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Again, thanks =
for all the input and given the updated info we are still open to any =
ideas.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p=
></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Jim<o:p></o:p></=
span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>=
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>=
From:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>=
<a href=3D"mailto:jliny5@cox.net"; title=3D"mailto:jliny5@cox.net";>James =
Lindner</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>=
Sent:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>=
Friday, April 10, 2015 8:37 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>=
To:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>=
<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; =
title=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>Tiger List</a> =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>=
Subject:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>=
Electrical Issue<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p=
></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'=
>Hi All<br><br>I was getting my Tiger ready for the season and I noticed =
that I was not getting a charge at idle. The more the car warmed up, the =
more rpms it needed to keep the ignition lite off. Over the years I have =
experienced problems keeping a voltage regulator for any great length of =
time. They just seem to give up after not so long. This time I did =
pretty well=E2=80=A6it lasted over a year. I checked the battery and =
generator just to be sure=E2=80=A6the battery had a full charge and the =
generator was generating.<br><br>So I switched out the v/reg for one I =
purchased from SS as a backup last year. I have done this installation a =
couple of times so I was confident, even with my minimal =
skills.<br><br>I got the new v/reg in. Reconnected the battery but When =
I went to polarize it (touch F wire and B wire momentarily per Shop =
Manual)=E2=80=A6nothing. I checked my connections (Brown to Batt =
terminal=E2=80=A6Brn/Grn to Fld terminal=E2=80=A6Brn/Yel to Arm =
terminal) all were correct. I double checked battery=E2=80=A6full =
charge.<br><br>Thinking the v/reg might be bad, I reinstalled the old =
one=E2=80=A6same results=E2=80=A6nothing.<br><br>I installed new one =
again=E2=80=A6same results.<br><br>The only other action I took was to =
disconnect the terminals on the generator and cleaned them up. I checked =
to make sure I reconnected them correctly.<br><br>I took a chance and =
turned on the ignition=E2=80=A6dead.</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'=
>After taking a break I went back out and did some more inspection and =
testing. Not sure if it made a difference but I found the battery wire =
(brown) spade connector at the fuse box loose. I crimped it down and got =
a much tighter fit. The v/reg still would not polarize so I then took =
some readings with my multimeter. Here are the =
readings=E2=80=A6</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Battery=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=
=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=
=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=
=A6.12.9v</span><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Batt Term =
@ =
V/reg=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=
=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6..=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6..12.9v</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Battery term @ =
solenoid=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=
=80=A6..=E2=80=A6..12.9V</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Battery Term @ Gen (end of =
case)=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6..0</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>I thought =
I should get a similar 12 something reading at the Batt terminal on the =
generator. Any advice on where to make additional tests or anything else =
is appreciated. </span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:black'>I am pretty much a =
neophyte at this so please type slowly.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:black'>Jim =
Lindner<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
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