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Jim
I'm not the electrical guy but I had numerous problems with my =
generator
system until I converted to Alternator.
=20
G post- ground - black wire
=20
F post - wire NG is the field
=20
A post on rear cover - wire NY is generator output - should be in the 14 =
to
15v range
=20
1st - give the generator a medium smack with a hammer - if 14v or more =
shows
up - time to rebuild the generator - the brushes are worn and hanging up
It is my understanding that generators need to be rebuilt every 30 to =
40K
miles.
=20
I had to run my generator system with the VR cover off - I believe it =
was
too heat sensitive - with the cover always off I could easily clear the =
VR
points when I lost voltage.
=20
I installed a volt meter under the dash so I always knew when the =
generator
was not working properly.
=20
Hope that helps
=20
Ron Fraser
-----Original Message-----
From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of James
Lindner via Tigers
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2015 8:37 PM
To: Tiger List
Subject: [Tigers] Electrical Issue
Hi All
I was getting my Tiger ready for the season and I noticed that I was not
getting a charge at idle. The more the car warmed up, the more rpms it
needed to keep the ignition lite off. Over the years I have experienced
problems keeping a voltage regulator for any great length of time. They =
just
seem to give up after not so long. This time I did pretty well.it lasted
over a year. I checked the battery and generator just to be sure.the =
battery
had a full charge and the generator was generating.
So I switched out the v/reg for one I purchased from SS as a backup last
year. I have done this installation a couple of times so I was =
confident,
even with my minimal skills.
I got the new v/reg in. Reconnected the battery but When I went to =
polarize
it (touch F wire and B wire momentarily per Shop Manual).nothing. I =
checked
my connections (Brown to Batt terminal.Brn/Grn to Fld terminal.Brn/Yel =
to
Arm terminal) all were correct. I double checked battery.full charge.
Thinking the v/reg might be bad, I reinstalled the old one.same
results.nothing.
I installed new one again.same results.
The only other action I took was to disconnect the terminals on the
generator and cleaned them up. I checked to make sure I reconnected them
correctly.
I took a chance and turned on the ignition.dead.
After taking a break I went back out and did some more inspection and
testing. Not sure if it made a difference but I found the battery wire
(brown) spade connector at the fuse box loose. I crimped it down and got =
a
much tighter fit. The v/reg still would not polarize so I then took some
readings with my multimeter. Here are the readings.
=20
Battery.....................12.9v
Batt Term @ V/reg................12.9v
Battery term @ solenoid.............12.9V
Battery Term @ Gen (end of case)......0
=20
I thought I should get a similar 12 something reading at the Batt =
terminal
on the generator. Any advice on where to make additional tests or =
anything
else is appreciated.=20
=20
I am pretty much a neophyte at this so please type slowly.
=20
Thanks
=20
Jim Lindner
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
class=3D171014311-11042015>Jim</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
class=3D171014311-11042015> I'm not the electrical guy =
but I had=20
numerous problems with my generator system until I converted to=20
Alternator.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
class=3D171014311-11042015></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
class=3D171014311-11042015>G=20
post- ground - black wire</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
class=3D171014311-11042015></SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=20
face=3DArial><SPAN class=3D171014311-11042015></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
class=3D171014311-11042015>F post=20
- wire NG is the field</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
class=3D171014311-11042015></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
class=3D171014311-11042015>A post=20
on rear cover - wire NY is generator output - should be in the =
14 to=20
15v range</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
class=3D171014311-11042015></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
class=3D171014311-11042015>1st -=20
give the generator a medium smack with a hammer - if 14v or more =
shows up=20
- time to rebuild the generator - the brushes are worn =
and hanging=20
up</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
class=3D171014311-11042015>It is=20
my understanding that generators need to be rebuilt every 30 to 40K=20
miles.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
class=3D171014311-11042015></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
class=3D171014311-11042015>I had=20
to run my generator system with the VR cover off - I believe it was =
too=20
heat sensitive - with the cover always off I could easily clear the VR =
points=20
when I lost voltage.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
class=3D171014311-11042015></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
class=3D171014311-11042015>I=20
installed a volt meter under the dash so I always knew when the =
generator was=20
not working properly.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
class=3D171014311-11042015></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
class=3D171014311-11042015>Hope=20
that helps</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
class=3D171014311-11042015></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
class=3D171014311-11042015>Ron=20
Fraser</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=3Dltr lang=3Den-us class=3DOutlookMessageHeader =
align=3Dleft><FONT size=3D2=20
face=3DTahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Tigers=20
[mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] <B>On Behalf Of </B>James =
Lindner via=20
Tigers<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 10, 2015 8:37 PM<BR><B>To:</B> =
Tiger=20
List<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Tigers] Electrical Issue<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>
<DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: =
12pt">
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana><FONT style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Hi =
All<BR><BR>I was=20
getting my Tiger ready for the season and I noticed that I was not =
getting a=20
charge at idle. The more the car warmed up, the more rpms it needed to =
keep=20
the ignition lite off. Over the years I have experienced problems =
keeping a=20
voltage regulator for any great length of time. They just seem to give =
up=20
after not so long. This time I did pretty well…it lasted over a =
year. I=20
checked the battery and generator just to be sure…the battery =
had a full=20
charge and the generator was generating.<BR><BR>So I switched out the =
v/reg=20
for one I purchased from SS as a backup last year. I have done this=20
installation a couple of times so I was confident, even with my =
minimal=20
skills.<BR><BR>I got the new v/reg in. Reconnected the battery but =
When I went=20
to polarize it (touch F wire and B wire momentarily per Shop =
Manual)…nothing.=20
I checked my connections (Brown to Batt terminal…Brn/Grn to Fld=20
terminal…Brn/Yel to Arm terminal) all were correct. I double =
checked=20
battery…full charge.<BR><BR>Thinking the v/reg might be bad, I =
reinstalled the=20
old one…same results…nothing.<BR><BR>I installed new one =
again…same=20
results.<BR><BR>The only other action I took was to disconnect the =
terminals=20
on the generator and cleaned them up. I checked to make sure I =
reconnected=20
them correctly.<BR><BR>I took a chance and turned on the=20
ignition…dead.</FONT></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt">After taking a break I went back =
out and=20
did some more inspection and testing. Not sure if it made a difference =
but I=20
found the battery wire (brown) spade connector at the fuse box loose. =
I=20
crimped it down and got a much tighter fit. The v/reg still would not =
polarize=20
so I then took some readings with my multimeter. Here are the=20
readings…</FONT></DIV>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=3DMsoNormal><FONT=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></FONT> </P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=3DMsoNormal><FONT=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
11pt">Battery……………………R=
30;…………………………=
….12.9v</FONT></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=3DMsoNormal><FONT=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Batt Term @ =
V/reg………………………̷=
0;..……..12.9v</FONT></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=3DMsoNormal><FONT=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Battery term @ =
solenoid……………………..…=
..12.9V</FONT></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=3DMsoNormal><FONT=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Battery Term @ Gen (end of =
case)…………..0</FONT></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=3DMsoNormal><FONT=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></FONT> </P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=3DMsoNormal><FONT =
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I=20
thought I should get a similar 12 something reading at the Batt =
terminal on=20
the generator. Any advice on where to make additional tests or =
anything else=20
is appreciated. </FONT></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=3DMsoNormal> </P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=3DMsoNormal>I am pretty much a =
neophyte at=20
this so please type slowly.</P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=3DMsoNormal> </P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=3DMsoNormal>Thanks</P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=3DMsoNormal> </P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=3DMsoNormal>Jim=20
Lindner</P></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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