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Jim,
People have found out that if the ground wire from engine to chassis is no=
t=20
clean and tight that all kinds of problems crop up. If you haven't=20
checked that I would suggest that as one of your steps.
Mark
=20
=20
In a message dated 4/14/2015 7:46:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, =20
tigers@autox.team.net writes:
=20
=20
Hi Listers,
=20
Thank you all for your feedback. I thought I would give an update. It =20
seems I have 2 problems. Everything went dead because it seems I have a lo=
ose =20
connection somewhere along the battery wire (brown) to the V/R. I suspect=
my =20
ammeter and the wiring for it have something to do with that.=20
=20
The bigger problem is that my car is still NOT charging. This was my orig
inal problem and the reason I replaced the V/R in the first place. Now my=
=20
ignition warning light is on full time. Many of you felt it was the genera=
tor,=20
at least one believed it is a fault in the wiring. I too believed it was=
a=20
generator problem. So today I removed the generator and took it to be=20
rebuilt. I asked if we could bench test it before going through the effor=
t/cost=20
of rebuilding. They hooked up the generator and it tested out fine. We=20
then added in the new and old V/Rs to the test. With the new V/R hooked=
up=20
with the generator, it tested out at 12.7v...a little anemic. But with th=
e old=20
V/R connected (which I had just replaced), the test showed the generator=
=20
putting out a solid 14.5v (+/- a tenth or so).
=20
Bottomline...generator and V/R tested out fine. So it=E2=80=99s onto the=
wiring..
=20
Again, thanks for all the input and given the updated info we are still =
=20
open to any ideas.
=20
Jim
=20
=20
=20
From: _James Lindner_ (mailto:jliny5@cox.net) =20
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2015 8:37 PM
To: _Tiger List_ (mailto:tigers@autox.team.net) =20
Subject: Electrical Issue
=20
=20
=20
=20
Hi All
I was getting my Tiger ready for the season and I noticed that I was not=
=20
getting a charge at idle. The more the car warmed up, the more rpms it=20
needed to keep the ignition lite off. Over the years I have experienced=
problems=20
keeping a voltage regulator for any great length of time. They just seem=
=20
to give up after not so long. This time I did pretty well=E2=80=A6it last=
ed over a=20
year. I checked the battery and generator just to be sure=E2=80=A6the bat=
tery had a=20
full charge and the generator was generating.
So I switched out the v/reg for one I purchased from SS as a backup last=
=20
year. I have done this installation a couple of times so I was confident,=
=20
even with my minimal skills.
I got the new v/reg in. Reconnected the battery but When I went to=20
polarize it (touch F wire and B wire momentarily per Shop Manual)=E2=80=A6=
nothing. I=20
checked my connections (Brown to Batt terminal=E2=80=A6Brn/Grn to Fld ter=
minal=E2=80=A6Brn/Yel=20
to Arm terminal) all were correct. I double checked battery=E2=80=A6full=
charge.
Thinking the v/reg might be bad, I reinstalled the old one=E2=80=A6same=
results=E2=80=A6
nothing.
I installed new one again=E2=80=A6same results.
The only other action I took was to disconnect the terminals on the=20
generator and cleaned them up. I checked to make sure I reconnected them=
=20
correctly.
I took a chance and turned on the ignition=E2=80=A6dead.
After taking a break I went back out and did some more inspection and=20
testing. Not sure if it made a difference but I found the battery wire (b=
rown)=20
spade connector at the fuse box loose. I crimped it down and got a much=
=20
tighter fit. The v/reg still would not polarize so I then took some readi=
ngs=20
with my multimeter. Here are the readings=E2=80=A6
Battery=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=
=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=
=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6.12.9v=20
Batt Term @ V/reg=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=
=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6..=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6..12.9v=20
Battery term @ solenoid=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=
=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6..=E2=80=A6..12.9V=20
Battery Term @ Gen (end of case)=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6..0=20
I thought I should get a similar 12 something reading at the Batt termina=
l=20
on the generator. Any advice on where to make additional tests or anythin=
g=20
else is appreciated. =20
I am pretty much a neophyte at this so please type slowly.=20
Thanks=20
Jim Lindner
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<DIV>Jim,</DIV>
<DIV>People have found out that if the ground wire from engine to chassis=
is not=20
clean and tight that all kinds of problems crop up. If you haven't=
checked=20
that I would suggest that as one of your steps.</DIV>
<DIV>Mark</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>In a message dated 4/14/2015 7:46:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,=20
tigers@autox.team.net writes:</DIV>
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<DIV>Hi Listers,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Thank you all for your feedback. I thought I would give an update.=
It=20
seems I have 2 problems. Everything went dead because it seems I have a=
loose=20
connection somewhere along the battery wire (brown) to the V/R. I suspec=
t my=20
ammeter and the wiring for it have something to do with that. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>The bigger problem is that my car is still NOT charging. This was=
my=20
original problem and the reason I replaced the V/R in the first place.=
Now my=20
ignition warning light is on full time. Many of you felt it was the gene=
rator,=20
at least one believed it is a fault in the wiring. I too believed it was=
a=20
generator problem. So today I removed the generator and took it to be re=
built.=20
I asked if we could bench test it before going through the effort/cost=
of=20
rebuilding. They hooked up the generator and it tested out fine. We then=
added=20
in the new and old V/Rs to the test. With the new V/R hooked up with the=
=20
generator, it tested out at 12.7v...a little anemic. But with the old V/=
R=20
connected (which I had just replaced), the test showed the generator put=
ting=20
out a solid 14.5v (+/- a tenth or so).</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Bottomline...generator and V/R tested out fine. So it=E2=80=99s ont=
o the=20
wiring..</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Again, thanks for all the input and given the updated info we are=
still=20
open to any ideas.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Jim</DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=3Dmailto:jliny5@c=
ox.net=20
href=3D"mailto:jliny5@cox.net";>James Lindner</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 10, 2015 8:37 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dmailto:tigers@autox.team.net=20
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>Tiger List</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Electrical Issue</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana><FONT style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Hi All<BR><BR>=
I was=20
getting my Tiger ready for the season and I noticed that I was not getti=
ng a=20
charge at idle. The more the car warmed up, the more rpms it needed to=
keep=20
the ignition lite off. Over the years I have experienced problems keepin=
g a=20
voltage regulator for any great length of time. They just seem to give=
up=20
after not so long. This time I did pretty well=E2=80=A6it lasted over a=
year. I=20
checked the battery and generator just to be sure=E2=80=A6the battery ha=
d a full=20
charge and the generator was generating.<BR><BR>So I switched out the v/=
reg=20
for one I purchased from SS as a backup last year. I have done this=20
installation a couple of times so I was confident, even with my minimal=
=20
skills.<BR><BR>I got the new v/reg in. Reconnected the battery but When=
I went=20
to polarize it (touch F wire and B wire momentarily per Shop Manual)=E2=
=80=A6nothing.=20
I checked my connections (Brown to Batt terminal=E2=80=A6Brn/Grn to Fld=
=20
terminal=E2=80=A6Brn/Yel to Arm terminal) all were correct. I double che=
cked=20
battery=E2=80=A6full charge.<BR><BR>Thinking the v/reg might be bad, I=
reinstalled the=20
old one=E2=80=A6same results=E2=80=A6nothing.<BR><BR>I installed new one=
again=E2=80=A6same=20
results.<BR><BR>The only other action I took was to disconnect the termi=
nals=20
on the generator and cleaned them up. I checked to make sure I reconnect=
ed=20
them correctly.<BR><BR>I took a chance and turned on the=20
ignition=E2=80=A6dead.</FONT></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt">After taking a break I went back ou=
t and=20
did some more inspection and testing. Not sure if it made a difference=
but I=20
found the battery wire (brown) spade connector at the fuse box loose. I=
=20
crimped it down and got a much tighter fit. The v/reg still would not po=
larize=20
so I then took some readings with my multimeter. Here are the=20
readings=E2=80=A6</FONT></DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></FONT> </P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Battery=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=
=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=
=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6.12.9=
v</FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Batt Term @ V/reg=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=
=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6..=E2=80=A6=
=E2=80=A6..12.9v</FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Battery term @ solenoid=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=
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T></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Battery Term @ Gen (end of case)=E2=80=A6=E2=
=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6..0</FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></FONT> </P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT style=3D"FONT-S=
IZE: 11pt">I=20
thought I should get a similar 12 something reading at the Batt terminal=
on=20
the generator. Any advice on where to make additional tests or anything=
else=20
is appreciated. </FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> </P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">I am pretty much a ne=
ophyte at=20
this so please type slowly.</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> </P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Thanks</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> </P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Jim=20
Lindner</P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV><BR><BR>_______________________=
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