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If the Generator bulb is burnt out the charging system won't work.Bill
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On Saturday, April 11, 2015 6:12 AM, Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers@aut=
ox.team.net> wrote:
=20
MessageJim=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I'm not the electrical guy but I had numerous=
problems with my generator system until I converted to Alternator.=C2=A0G =
post- ground - black wire=C2=A0F post - wire NG=C2=A0is the field=C2=A0A po=
st on rear cover -=C2=A0wire NY=C2=A0is generator output - should be in the=
14 to 15v range=C2=A01st - give the generator a=C2=A0medium smack with a h=
ammer - if 14v or more shows up -=C2=A0time to rebuild the generator - the =
brushes are worn and=C2=A0hanging upIt is my understanding that generators =
need to be rebuilt every 30 to 40K miles.=C2=A0I had to run=C2=A0my generat=
or system with the VR cover off - I believe it was too heat sensitive - wit=
h the cover always off I could easily clear the VR points when I lost volta=
ge.=C2=A0I installed a volt meter under the dash so I always knew when the =
generator was not working properly.=C2=A0Hope that helps=C2=A0Ron Fraser
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From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of James Lind=
ner via Tigers
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2015 8:37 PM
To: Tiger List
Subject: [Tigers] Electrical Issue
Hi All
I was getting my Tiger ready for the season and I noticed that I was not ge=
tting a charge at idle. The more the car warmed up, the more rpms it needed=
to keep the ignition lite off. Over the years I have experienced problems =
keeping a voltage regulator for any great length of time. They just seem to=
give up after not so long. This time I did pretty well=E2=80=A6it lasted o=
ver a year. I checked the battery and generator just to be sure=E2=80=A6the=
battery had a full charge and the generator was generating.
So I switched out the v/reg for one I purchased from SS as a backup last ye=
ar. I have done this installation a couple of times so I was confident, eve=
n with my minimal skills.
I got the new v/reg in. Reconnected the battery but When I went to polarize=
it (touch F wire and B wire momentarily per Shop Manual)=E2=80=A6nothing. =
I checked my connections (Brown to Batt terminal=E2=80=A6Brn/Grn to Fld ter=
minal=E2=80=A6Brn/Yel to Arm terminal) all were correct. I double checked b=
attery=E2=80=A6full charge.
Thinking the v/reg might be bad, I reinstalled the old one=E2=80=A6same res=
ults=E2=80=A6nothing.
I installed new one again=E2=80=A6same results.
The only other action I took was to disconnect the terminals on the generat=
or and cleaned them up. I checked to make sure I reconnected them correctly=
.
I took a chance and turned on the ignition=E2=80=A6dead.
After taking a break I went back out and did some more inspection and test=
ing. Not sure if it made a difference but I found the battery wire (brown) =
spade connector at the fuse box loose. I crimped it down and got a much tig=
hter fit. The v/reg still would not polarize so I then took some readings w=
ith my multimeter. Here are the readings=E2=80=A6 =C2=A0 Battery=E2=80=A6=
=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=
=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=
=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6.12.9v Batt Term @ V/reg=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=
=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6..=E2=80=A6=E2=
=80=A6..12.9v Battery term @ solenoid=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=
=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6..=E2=80=A6..12.9V Battery Term @ Gen (=
end of case)=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6..0 =C2=A0 I thought I shou=
ld get a similar 12 something reading at the Batt terminal on the generator=
. Any advice on where to make additional tests or anything else is apprecia=
ted. =C2=A0 I am pretty much a neophyte at this so please type slowly. =C2=
=A0 Thanks =C2=A0 Jim Lindner
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lveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:16px"><div>If the Generator bulb is burnt out the charging system w=
on't work.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1428782267836_9500">Bil=
l<br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1428782267836_8662"><span></span></div> =
<br><div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div style=3D"display: bloc=
k;" class=3D"yahoo_quoted"> <div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helve=
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<div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial,=
Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <font face=
=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"> On Saturday, April 11, 2015 6:12 AM, Ron Fraser via =
Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <br><br> <d=
iv class=3D"y_msg_container"><div id=3D"yiv5163257267"><title>Message</titl=
e><div dir=3D"ltr">
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span class=3D"yiv51=
63257267171014311-11042015">Jim</span></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span class=3D"yiv51=
63257267171014311-11042015"> I'm not the electrical guy b=
ut I had=20
numerous problems with my generator system until I converted to=20
Alternator.</span></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span class=3D"yiv51=
63257267171014311-11042015"></span></font> </div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span class=3D"yiv51=
63257267171014311-11042015">G=20
post- ground - black wire</span></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span class=3D"yiv51=
63257267171014311-11042015"></span></font><font color=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"A=
rial" size=3D"2"><span class=3D"yiv5163257267171014311-11042015"></span></f=
ont> </div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span class=3D"yiv51=
63257267171014311-11042015">F post=20
- wire NG is the field</span></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span class=3D"yiv51=
63257267171014311-11042015"></span></font> </div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span class=3D"yiv51=
63257267171014311-11042015">A post=20
on rear cover - wire NY is generator output - should be in the 14=
to=20
15v range</span></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span class=3D"yiv51=
63257267171014311-11042015"></span></font> </div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span class=3D"yiv51=
63257267171014311-11042015">1st -=20
give the generator a medium smack with a hammer - if 14v or more shows=
up=20
- time to rebuild the generator - the brushes are worn and hangin=
g=20
up</span></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span class=3D"yiv51=
63257267171014311-11042015">It is=20
my understanding that generators need to be rebuilt every 30 to 40K=20
miles.</span></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span class=3D"yiv51=
63257267171014311-11042015"></span></font> </div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span class=3D"yiv51=
63257267171014311-11042015">I had=20
to run my generator system with the VR cover off - I believe it was to=
o=20
heat sensitive - with the cover always off I could easily clear the VR poin=
ts=20
when I lost voltage.</span></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span class=3D"yiv51=
63257267171014311-11042015"></span></font> </div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span class=3D"yiv51=
63257267171014311-11042015">I=20
installed a volt meter under the dash so I always knew when the generator w=
as=20
not working properly.</span></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span class=3D"yiv51=
63257267171014311-11042015"></span></font> </div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span class=3D"yiv51=
63257267171014311-11042015">Hope=20
that helps</span></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span class=3D"yiv51=
63257267171014311-11042015"></span></font> </div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span class=3D"yiv51=
63257267171014311-11042015">Ron=20
Fraser</span></font></div>
<blockquote dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT:0px;">
<div></div>
<div class=3D"yiv5163257267yqt8110971779" id=3D"yiv5163257267yqt56382"><d=
iv class=3D"yiv5163257267OutlookMessageHeader" dir=3D"ltr" align=3D"left" l=
ang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">-----Original Message-----<b=
r clear=3D"none"><b>From:</b> Tigers=20
[mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>James Lindner =
via=20
Tigers<br clear=3D"none"><b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 10, 2015 8:37 PM<br c=
lear=3D"none"><b>To:</b> Tiger=20
List<br clear=3D"none"><b>Subject:</b> [Tigers] Electrical Issue<br clear=
=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></font></div>
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<div style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri';COLOR:#000000;FONT-SIZE:12pt;">
<div><font face=3D"Verdana"><font style=3D"FONT-SIZE:10pt;">Hi All<br cle=
ar=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">I was=20
getting my Tiger ready for the season and I noticed that I was not gettin=
g a=20
charge at idle. The more the car warmed up, the more rpms it needed to ke=
ep=20
the ignition lite off. Over the years I have experienced problems keeping=
a=20
voltage regulator for any great length of time. They just seem to give up=
=20
after not so long. This time I did pretty well=E2=80=A6it lasted over a y=
ear. I=20
checked the battery and generator just to be sure=E2=80=A6the battery had=
a full=20
charge and the generator was generating.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"n=
one">So I switched out the v/reg=20
for one I purchased from SS as a backup last year. I have done this=20
installation a couple of times so I was confident, even with my minimal=
=20
skills.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">I got the new v/reg in. Reco=
nnected the battery but When I went=20
to polarize it (touch F wire and B wire momentarily per Shop Manual)=E2=
=80=A6nothing.=20
I checked my connections (Brown to Batt terminal=E2=80=A6Brn/Grn to Fld=
=20
terminal=E2=80=A6Brn/Yel to Arm terminal) all were correct. I double chec=
ked=20
battery=E2=80=A6full charge.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Thinkin=
g the v/reg might be bad, I reinstalled the=20
old one=E2=80=A6same results=E2=80=A6nothing.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=
=3D"none">I installed new one again=E2=80=A6same=20
results.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">The only other action I too=
k was to disconnect the terminals=20
on the generator and cleaned them up. I checked to make sure I reconnecte=
d=20
them correctly.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">I took a chance and =
turned on the=20
ignition=E2=80=A6dead.</font></font><br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div><font style=3D"FONT-SIZE:11pt;">After taking a break I went back out=
and=20
did some more inspection and testing. Not sure if it made a difference bu=
t I=20
found the battery wire (brown) spade connector at the fuse box loose. I=
=20
crimped it down and got a much tighter fit. The v/reg still would not pol=
arize=20
so I then took some readings with my multimeter. Here are the=20
readings=E2=80=A6</font></div>
<div class=3D"yiv5163257267MsoNormal" style=3D"MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;"><font=
style=3D"FONT-SIZE:11pt;"></font> </div>
<div class=3D"yiv5163257267MsoNormal" style=3D"MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;"><font=
style=3D"FONT-SIZE:11pt;">Battery=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=
=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=
=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6.12.9v</f=
ont></div>
<div class=3D"yiv5163257267MsoNormal" style=3D"MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;"><font=
style=3D"FONT-SIZE:11pt;">Batt Term @ V/reg=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=
=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6..=E2=80=A6=E2=
=80=A6..12.9v</font></div>
<div class=3D"yiv5163257267MsoNormal" style=3D"MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;"><font=
style=3D"FONT-SIZE:11pt;">Battery term @ solenoid=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=
=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6..=E2=80=A6..12.9V</font></=
div>
<div class=3D"yiv5163257267MsoNormal" style=3D"MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;"><font=
style=3D"FONT-SIZE:11pt;">Battery Term @ Gen (end of case)=E2=80=A6=E2=80=
=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6..0</font></div>
<div class=3D"yiv5163257267MsoNormal" style=3D"MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;"><font=
style=3D"FONT-SIZE:11pt;"></font> </div>
<div class=3D"yiv5163257267MsoNormal" style=3D"MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;"><font=
style=3D"FONT-SIZE:11pt;">I=20
thought I should get a similar 12 something reading at the Batt terminal =
on=20
the generator. Any advice on where to make additional tests or anything e=
lse=20
is appreciated. </font></div>
<div class=3D"yiv5163257267MsoNormal" style=3D"MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;"> =
;</div>
<div class=3D"yiv5163257267MsoNormal" style=3D"MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;">I am =
pretty much a neophyte at=20
this so please type slowly.</div>
<div class=3D"yiv5163257267MsoNormal" style=3D"MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;"> =
;</div>
<div class=3D"yiv5163257267MsoNormal" style=3D"MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;">Thank=
s</div>
<div class=3D"yiv5163257267MsoNormal" style=3D"MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;"> =
;</div>
<div class=3D"yiv5163257267MsoNormal" style=3D"MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;">Jim=
=20
Lindner</div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div><br><div class=3D"y=
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