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Thanks, Guys. That all confirms what I suspected. I hadn=E2=80=99t =
thought of the extra quality control step; that seems likely, but not =
worth the price difference. I=E2=80=99ll gamble the $48 for the generic =
NGK plugs and report back if I notice any difference at all.
Jim
> On Oct 22, 2021, at 10:44 AM, MIQ MILLMAN <miq@bigllama.com> wrote:
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> Honda likely performs another round of quality control and tests the =
NGK plugs to make certain that they meet the needed criteria, and then =
brand them as Honda white boxed plugs. I am not saying the added cost =
is justified.
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> If you go with the generic NGK you will most likely get the same thing =
(who's to say NGK quality control is any better than Honda's (or vice =
versa)?)=20
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> This is similar to what Intel does with CPU's-- they test all the =
chips off a wafer, and the ones that don't meet the needed spec get =
resold as lower spec, slower CPU.
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> Personally, I can't imagine that there is going to be a noticeable =
difference in the spark output from a $12 NGK to a $40 HNGK.
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> You are spot on with this. There is no point in paying Honda an insane =
premium for parts which they clearly source from someone else. Of =
course, I=E2=80=99m old enough to think that even 18 bucks for a spark =
plug is highway robbery:-)
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> Tom Coradeschi
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>> On Oct 21, 2021, at 7:42 PM, Jim Stone <1789alpine@gmail.com =
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>> =EF=BB=BFMy 2017 Honda Ridgeline is approaching its 105,000 mile =
service, which is a big one. New timing belt is the main event, but =
Honda also recommends new spark plugs. I did the timing belt on my old =
Ridgeline at 220,000 (it=E2=80=99s 3rd belt) but it was a PITA and I =
don=E2=80=99t think I want to take any chances on a newer, more valuable =
vehicle. Spark plugs are a different story and the dealer gets over =
$300 to do those!
>>=20
>> The reason changing plugs is so expensive is Honda=E2=80=99s price =
for the plugs themselves. They list at $55 each, although you can get =
them discounted for the low, low price of about $40 each if you shop =
around. =
https://www.hondapartsconnection.com/oem-parts/honda-spark-plug-dilzkr7b11=
g-ngk-12290r9pa01 =
<https://www.hondapartsconnection.com/oem-parts/honda-spark-plug-dilzkr7b1=
1g-ngk-12290r9pa01> But, here is where it gets interesting: The =
owner=E2=80=99s manual lists the plugs as NGK DILZKR7B11G, a number you =
can clearly see on the Honda box in the above link. NGK lists that plug =
as $18 each =
(https://www.ngk.com/ngk-95350-dilzkr7b11g-laser-iridium-spark-plug =
<https://www.ngk.com/ngk-95350-dilzkr7b11g-laser-iridium-spark-plug>) =
and you can find them at Rock Auto for about $12.
>>=20
>> Ridgeline owners seem to be divided as to whether the plugs in the =
NGK box are any different from the ones in the Honda box. I trust this =
group more than fellow Ridgeline owners. What do you guys say? Are the =
plugs in the Honda box likely to be different and worth an extra $170?
>>=20
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class=3D"">Thanks, Guys. That all confirms what I suspected. =
I hadn=E2=80=99t thought of the extra quality control step; that =
seems likely, but not worth the price difference. I=E2=80=99ll =
gamble the $48 for the generic NGK plugs and report back if I notice any =
difference at all.<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Jim<br class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Oct 22, 2021, at 10:44 AM, MIQ MILLMAN =
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class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"">Honda likely performs another round of quality control and =
tests the NGK plugs to make certain that they meet the needed criteria, =
and then brand them as Honda white boxed plugs. I am not saying =
the added cost is justified.<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">If you go with the generic NGK you will most likely get the =
same thing (who's to say NGK quality control is any better than Honda's =
(or vice versa)?) </div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">This is similar to what Intel does with CPU's-- they test all =
the chips off a wafer, and the ones that don't meet the needed spec get =
resold as lower spec, slower CPU.</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Personally, I can't imagine that there =
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spot on with this. There is no point in paying Honda an insane premium =
for parts which they clearly source from someone else. Of course, I=E2=80=99=
m old enough to think that even 18 bucks for a spark plug is highway =
robbery:-)<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><span =
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21, 2021, at 7:42 PM, Jim Stone <<a =
href=3D"mailto:1789alpine@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">1789alpine@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">=EF=BB=BFMy 2017 Honda Ridgeline is approaching =
its 105,000 mile service, which is a big one. New timing belt is =
the main event, but Honda also recommends new spark plugs. I did =
the timing belt on my old Ridgeline at 220,000 (it=E2=80=99s 3rd belt) =
but it was a PITA and I don=E2=80=99t think I want to take any chances =
on a newer, more valuable vehicle. Spark plugs are a different =
story and the dealer gets over $300 to do those!<div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">The reason changing plugs is so =
expensive is Honda=E2=80=99s price for the plugs themselves. They =
list at $55 <u class=3D"">each</u>, although you can get them discounted =
for the low, low price of about $40 each if you shop around. <a =
href=3D"https://www.hondapartsconnection.com/oem-parts/honda-spark-plug-di=
lzkr7b11g-ngk-12290r9pa01" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">https://www.hondapartsconnection.com/oem-parts/honda-spark-plug=
-dilzkr7b11g-ngk-12290r9pa01</a> But, here is where it gets =
interesting: The owner=E2=80=99s manual lists the plugs as NGK =
DILZKR7B11G, a number you can clearly see on the Honda box in the above =
link. NGK lists that plug as $18 each (<a =
href=3D"https://www.ngk.com/ngk-95350-dilzkr7b11g-laser-iridium-spark-plug=
" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">https://www.ngk.com/ngk-95350-dilzkr7b11g-laser-iridium-spark-p=
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