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Honda likely performs another round of quality control and tests the NGK
plugs to make certain that they meet the needed criteria, and then brand
them as Honda white boxed plugs. I am not saying the added cost is
justified.
If you go with the generic NGK you will most likely get the same thing
(who's to say NGK quality control is any better than Honda's (or vice
versa)?)
This is similar to what Intel does with CPU's-- they test all the chips off
a wafer, and the ones that don't meet the needed spec get resold as lower
spec, slower CPU.
Personally, I can't imagine that there is going to be a
noticeable difference in the spark output from a $12 NGK to a $40 HNGK.
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> You are spot on with this. There is no point in paying Honda an insane
> premium for parts which they clearly source from someone else. Of course,
> I=E2=80=99m old enough to think that even 18 bucks for a spark plug is hi=
ghway
> robbery:-)
>
> Tom Coradeschi
> tjcora@icloud.com
>
> On Oct 21, 2021, at 7:42 PM, Jim Stone <1789alpine@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BFMy 2017 Honda Ridgeline is approaching its 105,000 mile service,=
which is
> a big one. New timing belt is the main event, but Honda also recommends
> new spark plugs. I did the timing belt on my old Ridgeline at 220,000
> (it=E2=80=99s 3rd belt) but it was a PITA and I don=E2=80=99t think I wan=
t to take any
> chances on a newer, more valuable vehicle. Spark plugs are a different
> story and the dealer gets over $300 to do those!
>
> The reason changing plugs is so expensive is Honda=E2=80=99s price for th=
e plugs
> themselves. They list at $55 *each*, although you can get them
> discounted for the low, low price of about $40 each if you shop around.
> https://www.hondapartsconnection.com/oem-parts/honda-spark-plug-dilzkr7b1=
1g-ngk-12290r9pa01
> But, here is where it gets interesting: The owner=E2=80=99s manual lists=
the plugs
> as NGK DILZKR7B11G, a number you can clearly see on the Honda box in the
> above link. NGK lists that plug as $18 each (
> https://www.ngk.com/ngk-95350-dilzkr7b11g-laser-iridium-spark-plug) and
> you can find them at Rock Auto for about $12.
>
> Ridgeline owners seem to be divided as to whether the plugs in the NGK bo=
x
> are any different from the ones in the Honda box. I trust this group mor=
e
> than fellow Ridgeline owners. What do you guys say? Are the plugs in th=
e
> Honda box likely to be different and worth an extra $170?
>
> Jim
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Honda likely performs another round of quality control and=
tests the NGK plugs to make certain that they meet the needed criteria, an=
d then brand them as Honda white boxed plugs.=C2=A0 I am not saying the add=
ed cost is justified.<div><br></div><div>If you go with the generic NGK you=
will most likely get the same thing (who's to say NGK quality control =
is any better than Honda's (or vice versa)?)=C2=A0</div><div><br></div>=
<div>This is similar to what Intel does with CPU's-- they test all the =
chips off a wafer, and the ones that don't meet the needed spec get res=
old as lower spec, slower CPU.</div><div><br></div><div>Personally, I can&#=
39;t imagine that there is going to be a noticeable=C2=A0difference in the =
spark output from a $12 NGK to a $40 HNGK.</div><div><br></div></div><div i=
d=3D"DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><br>
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gmail_attr">On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 4:42 AM Thomas Coradeschi <<a href=
=3D"mailto:tjcora@icloud.com";>tjcora@icloud.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><bl=
ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-lef=
t:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">You are sp=
ot on with this. There is no point in paying Honda an insane premium for pa=
rts which they clearly source from someone else. Of course, I=E2=80=99m old=
enough to think that even 18 bucks for a spark plug is highway robbery:-)<=
br><br><div dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)=
">Tom Coradeschi</span><div><span dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"background-color:rgb=
a(255,255,255,0)"><a href=3D"mailto:tjcora@icloud.com"; target=3D"_blank">tj=
cora@icloud.com</a></span></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=
=3D"cite">On Oct 21, 2021, at 7:42 PM, Jim Stone <<a href=3D"mailto:1789=
alpine@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">1789alpine@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>=
<br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF=
My 2017 Honda Ridgeline is approaching its 105,000 mile service, which is a=
big one.=C2=A0 New timing belt is the main event, but Honda also recommend=
s new spark plugs.=C2=A0 I did the timing belt on my old Ridgeline at 220,0=
00 (it=E2=80=99s 3rd belt) but it was a PITA and I don=E2=80=99t think I wa=
nt to take any chances on a newer, more valuable vehicle.=C2=A0 Spark plugs=
are a different story and the dealer gets over $300 to do those!<div><br><=
/div><div>The reason changing plugs is so expensive is Honda=E2=80=99s pric=
e for the plugs themselves.=C2=A0 They list at $55 <u>each</u>, although yo=
u can get them discounted for the low, low price of about $40 each if you s=
hop around. =C2=A0<a href=3D"https://www.hondapartsconnection.com/oem-parts=
/honda-spark-plug-dilzkr7b11g-ngk-12290r9pa01" target=3D"_blank">https://ww=
w.hondapartsconnection.com/oem-parts/honda-spark-plug-dilzkr7b11g-ngk-12290=
r9pa01</a> =C2=A0But, here is where it gets interesting: The owner=E2=80=99=
s manual lists the plugs as NGK DILZKR7B11G, a number you can clearly see o=
n the Honda box in the above link.=C2=A0 NGK lists that plug as $18 each (<=
a href=3D"https://www.ngk.com/ngk-95350-dilzkr7b11g-laser-iridium-spark-plu=
g" target=3D"_blank">https://www.ngk.com/ngk-95350-dilzkr7b11g-laser-iridiu=
m-spark-plug</a>) and you can find them at Rock Auto for about $12.</div><d=
iv><br></div><div>Ridgeline owners seem to be divided as to whether the plu=
gs in the NGK box are any different from the ones in the Honda box.=C2=A0 I=
trust this group more than fellow Ridgeline owners.=C2=A0 What do you guys=
say?=C2=A0 Are the plugs in the Honda box likely to be different and worth=
an extra $170?</div><div><br></div><div>Jim</div><span>___________________=
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