To: | shop-talk@autox.team.net |
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Subject: | Re: [Shop-talk] Cotter Usage |
From: | Donald H Locker <dhlocker@comcast.net> |
Date: | Tue, 17 Nov 2020 13:39:02 -0500 |
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[Re-sending to include the list.] I learned this method (and found support here https://www.kitplanes.com/best-practices-safety-hardware/) to put the pin in with the eye visible from the end of the stub, the wrap the legs around the nut one in each direction. Reasons for this way: if one leg fails, the other retains the cotter pin; the cotter pin will not rotate about its axis and turn a weak spot toward the nut's castellations; it is always easy to see that both legs are secure and present; easy to pick the cotter pin back out because the eye faces the operator and the legs are easy to access. I also found this interesting article: https://www.dropsonline.org/assets/documents/DROPS-Reliable-Securing-Rev03-Low-Resolution.pdf Rather long, but very thorough, though more oriented to lifting rigging and fasteners for same. Donald. -- *Plain Text* email -- it's an accessibility issue () no proprietary attachments; no html mail /\ <https://www.georgedillon.com/web/html_email_is_evil.shtml> On 2020-11-17 12:36 p.m., Bob Spidell wrote: > Got some 'quiet time' before I have to go look after my mom, and I > thought I'd pose an arcane question to the List: > > What do y'all consider the proper way to use a cotter key/pin? I've > watched the pros on TV--Edd China, Ant Anstead, Goblin Garage, > Fantomworks, etc. and the 'Chop it/Channel It/Drop a Crate Engine In > It/Bag It/Put Huge Dubs and a Gaudy Paint Job On It and Call It a Day' > hotrod builders, and they all do it a bit different. Usually, it's 'Type > 1'--see terrible hand-drawn 'art' attached (using a stub axle for > example)--but I gave it a lot of thought and wondered 'Is that the best > way?' Thinking it through, yes, any way you put a cotter in and secure > it will do the job; i.e. keep the nut from coming completely undone. > However, when safety-wiring--a skill I sorta learned maintaining my own > aircraft--you're supposed to always wire so as to pull in the tightening > direction, to resist any turning at all of the nut/bolt. So, when > applicable--e.g. on castellated nuts--I torque until the cotter will > just fit in the hole (drawing# 2), situated 'sideways'--where you can't > see the eye of the cotter from the side--snug against the side of the > nut's slot so as to resist the nut turning at all. Then, I bend the > upper half of the cotter back over the nut/spindle, and snip the lower > half at the edge of the nut, figuring anything longer than that isn't > doing anything (plus it just looks neater IMO, and may be easier to > remove if necessary). > > FWIW, my late father, who was an auto shop teacher and had a few > psychology classes under his belt said I was 'stuck at the anal > retentive stage' of child development; I (think) he was kidding. > > Bob > > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/dhlocker@comcast.net > _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive |
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