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Re: MGB-V8 History

To: murray arundell <goforit@ecn.net.au>, "Dodd, Kelvin" <doddk@mossmotors.com>, Tic Tac Group <uga4300@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: MGB-V8 History
From: "Kai M. Radicke" <kradick1@ic3.ithaca.edu>
Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1999 18:03:00 -0500
Cc: mgb-v8@autox.team.net
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Reply-to: "Kai M. Radicke" <kradick1@ic3.ithaca.edu>
Sender: owner-mgb-v8@autox.team.net
> 1)    No matter what engine you put into it sooner or later you still had
to
> look at the ugliest car ever produced!

I will dispute that.  Based on sheer statistics, those buying the TR7
apparently did not think it was ugly... it was the best selling Triumph
sports car in the TR series.  The TR6 sold ~ 90,000 or so in 7 years?  While
the TR7 sold something like ~135,000 in it's 5 year run.

> 2)    The Triumph was produced at a strike ridden plant that could never
> produce a quality product.  The public new it                     and
stayed
> away in droves.....   Days lost to strikes at MGs were NIL!  Fact.

The TR7 was produced at two plants, the first of which was had terrible
quality control issues and numerous strikes.  Later, post 1977 I believe,
production was transfered and the quality of the cars went up.

The TR8 could have been the car to save British Leyland, but BL would have
needed at least another stylish saloon platform to salvage it's position in
that market.  The TR8 got excellent reviews, and one stands out particularly
in my mind, because it was compared to the Corvette in performance
figures...  and given what we can achieve with our RV8s, we all know that
the TR8 could have been easily tuned to match and beat the Corvette's
figures for very little money.

What the TR7 and TR8 lacked as an independant rear suspension.  That solid
rear axle had to go.  Great for rallying, as seen in much BL rally usage of
the TR7 V8 and Sprints.  IMHO, and people have done this, BL could have fit
the Jaguar IRS, IRS subframe and axles shorted of course... but using the
same components.

As for what the BL could have done to better the numbers for the MGB V8.
Well, imagine the pains of trying to produce a profit making sportscar with
a V8 just as your entering an oil crisis (I mean what chance then did the
MGB V8 ever have of getting imported into the USA?  And as you can see...).
I think a stripped down GT with the bare essentials, keeping the standard
four cylinder engine, would have made a nice "Honda fighter" in the USA.
The MGB V8 was the right idea, 10 years too late.

The TR7 engine was an engineering marvel, it even won much a coveted design
award in Britain.

1970 should have been the year for a new big sportscar from MG.  However,
you had the merger a few years previous (twice in fact; British Motor
Holdings and then the formation of British Leyland).  And the focus was not
on producing new models, it was on maximizing profit on the current
models...

--
Kai M. Radicke -- kradick1@ic3.ithaca.edu
'74 Triumph TR6 -- http://www.pil.net/~felix




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