Keith my man, well said. I/Jon and I are very similar, we wanted a 2 hat and
to go fast as well, fast being relative, but anything with a 1 in front of it
would have worked this trip. And yes we to are proud of our shoestring budget,
but gotta admit, like you learned a new word (or 2) like aluminum for heads and
Rodeck for blocks, this trek to our endavor of pursuing speed taught us a new
word, CARRILLO, for rods. 191.8 was the record, we ran 198.555 off the trailer
in the FIRST mile. Went to impound, and in morning broke a rod before I got
past the 1.3 mile marker. Upon further inspection, (after the fire from the rod
exiting the cases and melting some new bodywork and wiring) we found the
remaining 3 rods ALL severely bent AND twisted.
But according to Dahlgren at least we are getting close to "Racey" nitrous
usage, motor made between 90-103 hp normally aspirated, and we gave it a 130hp
shot (for awhile). The thing was we also made these runs on stock rods that had
over 22,000 street miles and nitrous runs at Bonneville since 94.
Anyway the trip was worth it for many reasons. Primarily because of the ability
to learn. I have never been much of a spectator at anything, thank god I had to
suck it up a little and hang out the last 2 days, because pestering you and
Timney and Beckett, and Lionel was very enjoyable. And the highlight had to be
bouncing things off Dahlgrens head, that really meant alot to me Mr. Dahlgren,
ALOT. Thanks everybody
Joe (thanks to WOS I got to learn about Carrillos one year sooner) Amo :)
Keith Turk wrote:
> Ahhh the Truth Be Told..... The Record.... Held by Steve Batchelor at
> 230.354 and we went 228.304 .... that having been said.... hmmm 2 + mph
> difference.... and Yep that is Fairly fast.. damn near racey... only 15mph
> short of Racey in Dave's opinoin
>
> Fun was had by all....no doubt What hurts is the Truth in all of it... We
> were out there with Average equipment and did as good as could be done...
> Had I spent the 600 bucks on these new heads instead of running Old JUNK...
> well maybe the outcome would have been different... or had I dry sumped the
> Rodeck in the first Place I wouldn't have been worried about 4 miles an
> hour... and we could have spent more time in impound and less out there in
> the Cold working our butt's off trying to get something done that was about
> impossible...
>
> the one thing that is hard to put into words... is just how much I hate
> loosing... or not doing what I set out to do...It just doesnt' set well
> with me.... I can have a good attitude about all of it...and I am not a sore
> looser... but I didn't go out there to go fairly fast...
>
> One of the Best things about Dave is that he has the exact same attitude...
> neither one of us will leave a Stone unturned ... we will both mull this
> over and run it through our minds until we are sick of it.... Honestly I
> think that is what it takes to win..... That and to never let your mistakes
> go un-fixed... Brad is the same way... I try always to surround myself
> with folks that don't share my opinoins.... and Winners...
>
> Keith
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "dahlgren" <dahlgren@uconect.net>
> To: "Joe Amo" <jkamo@rapidnet.com>
> Cc: "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net>; "Glen Barrett" <speedtimer@earthlink.net>;
> "Ken Bond" <kmb2@humboldt.edu>; <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 6:30 AM
> Subject: Re: Time to stop lurking :-)
>
> > Glad to Joe... My version of run like stink generally involes breaking a
> > record.. Kieth we went fairly fast on a good course... No record no
> > hat...about 4 under the record if I remeber right.. and it is all
> > relative to the record.. A h/production car going 140 on a 130 record
> > runs like stink..a D/FALT running 228 on a 230 is going fairly fast at
> > best and at worst burning gas and making some noise...
> > A ton of nitrous.... A ton of nitrous is when you are sure that with the
> > current jetting that you will break the crank at the 3 and then jet it
> > up another 100 hp just to make sure you set the record with the broken
> > crank..it is realative to the power output of the engine too in my
> > mind..a 300hp 120 inch engine with 150 hit has a lot of nitrous one with
> > 250 hp or more has a ton.. LOL anything over 50% or what the engine
> > makes already gets you into the racey catagory. A 200 hit on a 550
> > engine is just a little 'help'. But we did have as much fun as you can
> > have without setting a record and it was a good vacation for me to get
> > away from serious racing.. LOL
> > All in good fun, as always,
> > Dave
> > Joe Amo wrote:
> > >
> > > Dave Dahlgren, oh Dave, did you see this from Turk? ""We made that 298
> Cast Iron
> > > Motor run like Stink with a Ton of Nitrous...""
> > >
> > > Dave D. could you please define (for Keith) what "run like stink" and
> "tons of
> > > nitrous" mean?? Joe :)
> > >
> > > Keith Turk wrote:
> > >
> > > > Okay Ken.... Lets get this Right.... Jon is the fella that Favors
> round
> > > > Bottomed boys in Sailer Suits... and Glenn well..... We just don't
> check his
> > > > ..... Wait a Min... I still gotta get a time slip....
> > > >
> > > > in answer to your question.... of earlier here are my favorite
> combinations
> > > > for a D Motor...
> > > >
> > > > 2.94 stroke and a 4.whatever bore.... gets you out to 4.060.... at
> 304.5
> > > > cubes...
> > > >
> > > > My 2.9 stroke 4.040 is a nice one too... just a bit small
> > > > but it again allows you to go out to 4.060 on a standard Block...
> > > >
> > > > The Rodeck is a 4.125 bore with a 2.8 stroke... and yeah it's a 300
> inch
> > > > motor also....But I can bore it if I want...
> > > >
> > > > Heads.... Like I said yesterday.. these Cheap ole Dart 230's seem to
> be
> > > > Better then my old High Dollar Hogans... ( just like Dave told me they
> would
> > > > be... yeah I know.. I hate that Too.... but at least I admit when
> someone is
> > > > Right.... unlike Jon.... who is going to deny the sailer suit
> thing....
> > > > TRUST ME on this I know) Brad has been doing his home work on the
> Aluminum
> > > > Version of this Head.... and It sounds like a Better deal...
> > > >
> > > > We made that 298 Cast Iron Motor run like Stink with a Ton of
> Nitrous...
> > > > sure is a shame you can't run some in the GT Class....( hey Dan... how
> come
> > > > they don't have a Fuel Class for GT and MS?)( yeah I am into Stirring
> the
> > > > Pot tonight)
> > > >
> > > > Keith ( who is up for a Weedeater Discussion )
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Glen Barrett" <speedtimer@earthlink.net>
> > > > To: "Ken Bond" <kmb2@humboldt.edu>
> > > > Cc: <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 6:48 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: Time to stop lurking :-)
> > > >
> > > > > Ken
> > > > > welcome aboard, but watch out for Keith he's strange & makes fake
> rocks.
> > > > Enjoy
> > > > > the group.
> > > > > Myself I do the timing at the lakes and Salt.
> > > > > Glen
> > > > >
> > > > > Ken Bond wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > HI, My name is Ken Bond... I have been reading for about a month
> now
> > > > and
> > > > > > figure since I sent out a quick e-mail yesterday about scatter
> shields,
> > > > I
> > > > > > better say hello. (side note... consensus on the scatter shield
> > > > question
> > > > > > is NO, it would not pass tech)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm a mid-50's university prof who comes from a Chev background.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A friend and myself are trying to set a record over 200 in D/GT.
> We
> > > > have
> > > > > > an 85 Corvette ALL apart and are just getting started on roll
> cages,
> > > > etc.
> > > > > > We will be building a SB 302 engine to power the car as time
> passes and
> > > > > > parts can be found/bought.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Our current biggest 'car' issues are Roll Cage and how to put a
> > > > non-quick
> > > > > > change read-end under the back of the car in place of the
> independent
> > > > rear
> > > > > > suspension. Any ideas/suggestions are always welcome. (Thanks to
> Ed
> > > > for
> > > > > > some comments already in private e-mails)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Our current biggest 'engine' issue is to ramp up the learning
> curve of
> > > > "D"
> > > > > > Chev. engines in general. (Thanks to Keith for a wonderful phone
> call
> > > > > > yesterday). ANY comments/suggestions/ or engine building
> > > > > > experiences/advice one might like to sent along would also be most
> > > > > > appreciated.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for all the 'welcomes.' Looking forward to putting faces
> to the
> > > > > > names on the salt.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > KEN
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> > > > > > * Ken Bond, *
> > > > > > * Prof. of Bus. Admin. *
> > > > > > * Humboldt State Univ. ____________ *
> > > > > > * Arcata, CA 95521 _______| 58 85 99 |_________ *
> > > > > > * / How much horsepower / *
> > > > > > * / Can I have and still / *
> > > > > > * Wk.:707.826.4277 /_________ go to Heaven?______/ *
> > > > > > * Wk Fax:707.826.6666 |_61______61_| *
> > > > > > * Hm.:707.826.7764 I Never Drive Faster than *
> > > > > > * Hm Fax:707.826.0334 My Guardian Angel Can Fly *
> > > > > > * Internet: *
> > > > > > * kmb2@humboldt.edu (office) *
> > > > > > * ragtops@humboldt1.com (home) *
> > > > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> >
|