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Thanks Jean and Michael.
Is it advisable to heat the sheet metal to facilitate folding/wrapping,
or does it warp or damage nearby metal too much?
Bob
On 11/10/2026 1:33 PM, Jean Caron wrote:
> The best way to obtain good results with folding the metal over your
> bead is to figure out the diameter of your bead and then multiply that
> number by 2.5 to have the necessary amount of sheet metal to fold
> over. Once you have that, butt weld your new bead to the old one,
> clean your weld and fold the metal over. That has worked for me for
> many years now.
>
> Jean
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* michael.salter@gmail.com <michael.salter@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* November 10, 2026 8:29 PM
> *To:* 'Bob Haskell' <rchaskell@earthlink.net>; 'Jean Caron'
> <vintage_roadster_restoration@hotmail.com>; gradea1@charter.net
> <gradea1@charter.net>; healeys@autox.team.net
> <healeys@autox.team.net>; 'Bob Spidell' <bspidell@comcast.net>
> *Subject:* RE: [Healeys] Nice car!
>
> â??(plus, I haven't figured out how the meld the existing bead with the
> replacement bead)â??.
>
> Doing that correctly takes some skill ! We used to remove the sheet
> metal but leave the wire then form a new bead over the original wire.
>
> Once the wire has been cut you are faced with a very difficult
> challenge to produce a joint that wonâ??t crack.
>
> M
>
> *From:*Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Bob Haskell
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 10, 2026 8:29 AM
> *To:* Jean Caron <vintage_roadster_restoration@hotmail.com>;
> gradea1@charter.net; healeys@autox.team.net; Bob Spidell
> <bspidell@comcast.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Nice car!
>
> BAT - 276 auctions closing today. Their daily email didn't show 111
> of them.
>
> Bob Haskell
> Austin-Healey 3000 roadster registrar
>
> On 11/9/26 20:47, Jean Caron wrote:
>
> Now at $50000.00. Everything happens in the last couple of hours.
>
> Jean
>
> Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canadaâ??s largest network.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:*Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net>
> *Sent:* Monday, 09 November 2026 17:14:22
> *To:* healeys@autox.team.net <healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Nice car!
>
> Great comments and spot on. I have been watching BAT and lately we
> have had a few good sales. It will be interesting to see what
> happens to the *no reserve-for charity! *100M that is currently
> about $35K-whats that about? Hank
> --------------------
>
> From: "Bob Spidell via Healeys" <healeys@autox.team.net>
> Reply-To: "Bob Spidell" <bspidell@comcast.net>
> Sent: November 9, 2026 at 8:41 AM PST
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Nice car!
> Wholly agree. First thing I look for in a side shot is the slight
> curve of the bottom rockers; when we restored my BN2 I ordered
> from Kilmartin because their parts were faithful to the original
> curve. Another thing that gives a resto away is the wire bead
> inside the rear wing edges; unfortunately, when I replaced the
> doglegs on my BJ8 I got aftermarket panels that didn't have the
> bead. I bought them later but haven't felt compelled enough to
> redo them (plus, I haven't figured out how the meld the existing
> bead with the replacement bead).
>
> It's a common fallacy of owners of restored cars that their car is
> 'worth' what they've put into it, both in dollars and hours. The
> car is worth what the market will offer, period. I also feel a
> resto of a Healey is more difficult than the shiny 'restomods' you
> see on B-J and other auctions. Healeys are a semi-monocoque
> (unibody) build;Â muscle cars are usually body-on-frame, which is
> a simpler build (also, parts are more available, from Summit and
> others).
>
> Bob
>
> On 11/9/2026 6:20 AM, Stephen Hutchings via Healeys wrote:
>
> What spoils a lot of otherwise nice cars for me is the line at
> the bottom of the front fender/wing. The line should have a
> subtle curve to it, but so many restorers have straightened
> out that line so it loses it curve. Even the Healey 3000 in
> the heritage museum at Gaydon has this problem. I guess itâ??s a
> lot easier to ignore the curve when repairing the rot at the
> bottom of the fenderâ?¦but the replacements from AH spares and
> others do have the correct line.
>
> Stephen, BJ8
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
>
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Thanks Jean and Michael.<br>
<br>
Is it advisable to heat the sheet metal to facilitate
folding/wrapping, or does it warp or damage nearby metal too much? <br>
<br>
Bob<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/10/2026 1:33 PM, Jean Caron
wrote:<br>
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The best way to obtain good results with folding the metal over
your bead is to figure out the diameter of your bead and then
multiply that number by 2.5 to have the necessary amount of
sheet metal to fold over. Once you have that, butt weld your new
bead to the old one, clean your weld and fold the metal over.
That has worked for me for many years now.</div>
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Jean</div>
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style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>From:</b>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:michael.salter@gmail.com";>michael.salter@gmail.com</a> <a
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:michael.salter@gmail.com";><michael.salter@gmail.com></a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> November 10, 2026 8:29 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Bob Haskell' <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:rchaskell@earthlink.net";><rchaskell@earthlink.net></a>;
'Jean Caron' <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:vintage_roadster_restoration@hotmail.com";><vintage_roadster_restoration@hotmail.com></a>;
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:gradea1@charter.net";>gradea1@charter.net</a> <a
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:gradea1@charter.net";><gradea1@charter.net></a>;
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a> <a
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";><healeys@autox.team.net></a>; 'Bob
Spidell' <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net";><bspidell@comcast.net></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Healeys] Nice car!</font>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">â??(plus, I haven't figured out how the
meld the existing bead with the replacement bead)â??.</p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal">Doing that correctly takes some skill !
We used to remove the sheet metal but leave the wire then
form a new bead over the original wire.
</p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal">Once the wire has been cut you are
faced with a very difficult challenge to produce a joint
that wonâ??t crack.</p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal">Â </p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal">M<span style=""></span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="">Â </span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US"
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
lang="EN-US"
style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
Healeys <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";><healeys-bounces@autox.team.net></a>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Bob Haskell<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 10, 2026 8:29 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jean Caron
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:vintage_roadster_restoration@hotmail.com";><vintage_roadster_restoration@hotmail.com></a>;
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:gradea1@charter.net";>gradea1@charter.net</a>; <a
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a>; Bob
Spidell <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net";><bspidell@comcast.net></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Nice car!</span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="x_MsoNormal">Â </p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Courier New"">BAT - 276
auctions closing today. Their daily email didn't show 111
of them.</span>
</p>
<pre>Bob Haskell</pre>
<pre>Austin-Healey 3000 roadster registrar</pre>
<p class="x_MsoNormal">Â </p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal">On 11/9/26 20:47, Jean Caron wrote:</p>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt; margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="color:#212121">Now at
$50000.00. Everything happens in the last couple of
hours.</span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="color:#212121">Â </span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="color:#212121">Jean</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">Â </p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="color:#212121">Sent
from my Bell Samsung device over Canadaâ??s largest
network.</span></p>
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color:black">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;
color:black">
Healeys
<a href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";
moz-do-not-send="true"><healeys-bounces@autox.team.net></a>
on behalf of Hank Leach
<a href="mailto:gradea1@charter.net";
moz-do-not-send="true"><gradea1@charter.net></a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 09 November 2026 17:14:22<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">healeys@autox.team.net</a>
<a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
moz-do-not-send="true">
<healeys@autox.team.net></a>; Bob Spidell <a
href="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net";
moz-do-not-send="true"><bspidell@comcast.net></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Nice car!</span> </p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal">Â </p>
</div>
<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Great
comments and spot on. I have been watching BAT and lately
we have had a few good sales. It will be interesting to
see what happens to the
<strong><span
style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">no
reserve-for charity! </span>
</strong>100M that is currently about $35K-whats that
about? Hank<br>
-------------------- <br>
<br>
From: "Bob Spidell via Healeys" <a
href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
moz-do-not-send="true"><healeys@autox.team.net></a>
<br>
Reply-To: "Bob Spidell" <a
href="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net";
moz-do-not-send="true"><bspidell@comcast.net></a>
<br>
To: <a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
moz-do-not-send="true"><healeys@autox.team.net></a>
<br>
Sent: November 9, 2026 at 8:41 AM PST <br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Nice car! <br>
Wholly agree. First thing I look for in a side shot is the
slight curve of the bottom rockers; when we restored my
BN2 I ordered from Kilmartin because their parts were
faithful to the original curve. Another thing that gives a
resto away is the wire bead inside the rear wing edges;
unfortunately, when I replaced the doglegs on my BJ8 I got
aftermarket panels that didn't have the bead. I bought
them later but haven't felt compelled enough to redo them
(plus, I haven't figured out how the meld the existing
bead with the replacement bead).<br>
<br>
It's a common fallacy of owners of restored cars that
their car is 'worth' what they've put into it, both in
dollars and hours. The car is worth what the market will
offer, period. I also feel a resto of a Healey is more
difficult than the shiny 'restomods' you see on B-J and
other auctions. Healeys are a semi-monocoque (unibody)
build;Â muscle cars are usually body-on-frame, which is a
simpler build (also, parts are more available, from Summit
and others). <br>
<br>
Bob<br>
<br>
 </p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal">On 11/9/2026 6:20 AM, Stephen
Hutchings via Healeys wrote:</p>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt; margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p class="x_MsoNormal">What spoils a lot of otherwise nice
cars for me is the line at the bottom of the front
fender/wing. The line should have a subtle curve to it,
but so many restorers have straightened out that line so
it loses it curve. Even the Healey 3000 in the heritage
museum at Gaydon has this problem. I guess itâ??s a lot
easier to ignore the curve when repairing the rot at the
bottom of the fenderâ?¦but the replacements from AH spares
and others do have the correct line.
</p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal">Â </p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal">Stephen, BJ8</p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal">Â </p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal">Sent from my iPad</p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal">Â </p>
</blockquote>
<p class="x_MsoNormal">Â </p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><br>
<br>
</p>
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