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Re: [Healeys] Nice car!

To: "michael.salter@gmail.com" <michael.salter@gmail.com>, 'Bob Haskell' <rchaskell@earthlink.net>, "gradea1@charter.net" <gradea1@charter.net>, "healeys@autox.team.net" <healeys@autox.team.net>, 'Bob Spidell' <bspidell@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Nice car!
From: Jean Caron <vintage_roadster_restoration@hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2026 21:33:29 +0000
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The best way to obtain good results with folding the metal over your bead i=
s to figure out the diameter of your bead and then multiply that number by =
2.5 to have the necessary amount of sheet metal to fold over. Once you have=
 that, butt weld your new bead to the old one, clean your weld and fold the=
 metal over. That has worked for me for many years now.

Jean
________________________________
From: michael.salter@gmail.com <michael.salter@gmail.com>
Sent: November 10, 2026 8:29 PM
To: 'Bob Haskell' <rchaskell@earthlink.net>; 'Jean Caron' <vintage_roadster=
_restoration@hotmail.com>; gradea1@charter.net <gradea1@charter.net>; heale=
ys@autox.team.net <healeys@autox.team.net>; 'Bob Spidell' <bspidell@comcast=
.net>
Subject: RE: [Healeys] Nice car!


=93(plus, I haven't figured out how the meld the existing bead with the rep=
lacement bead)=94.

Doing that correctly takes some skill ! We used to remove the sheet metal b=
ut leave the wire then form a new bead over the original wire.

Once the wire has been cut you are faced with a very difficult challenge to=
 produce a joint that won=92t crack.



M



From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Bob Haskell
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2026 8:29 AM
To: Jean Caron <vintage_roadster_restoration@hotmail.com>; gradea1@charter.=
net; healeys@autox.team.net; Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Nice car!



BAT - 276 auctions closing today.  Their daily email didn't show 111 of the=
m.

Bob Haskell

Austin-Healey 3000 roadster registrar



On 11/9/26 20:47, Jean Caron wrote:

Now at $50000.00. Everything happens in the last couple of hours.



Jean



Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada=92s largest network.

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rter.net>
Sent: Monday, 09 November 2026 17:14:22
mailto:bspidell@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Nice car!



Great comments and spot on. I have been watching BAT and lately we have had=
 a few good sales. It will be interesting to see what happens to the no res=
erve-for charity! 100M that is currently about $35K-whats that about? Hank
--------------------

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Sent: November 9, 2026 at 8:41 AM PST
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Nice car!
Wholly agree. First thing I look for in a side shot is the slight curve of =
the bottom rockers; when we restored my BN2 I ordered from Kilmartin becaus=
e their parts were faithful to the original curve. Another thing that gives=
 a resto away is the wire bead inside the rear wing edges; unfortunately, w=
hen I replaced the doglegs on my BJ8 I got aftermarket panels that didn't h=
ave the bead. I bought them later but haven't felt compelled enough to redo=
 them (plus, I haven't figured out how the meld the existing bead with the =
replacement bead).

It's a common fallacy of owners of restored cars that their car is 'worth' =
what they've put into it, both in dollars and hours. The car is worth what =
the market will offer, period. I also feel a resto of a Healey is more diff=
icult than the shiny 'restomods' you see on B-J and other auctions. Healeys=
 are a semi-monocoque (unibody) build;  muscle cars are usually body-on-fra=
me, which is a simpler build (also, parts are more available, from Summit a=
nd others).

Bob



On 11/9/2026 6:20 AM, Stephen Hutchings via Healeys wrote:

What spoils a lot of otherwise nice cars for me is the line at the bottom o=
f the front fender/wing. The line should have a subtle curve to it, but so =
many restorers have straightened out that line so it loses it curve. Even t=
he Healey 3000 in the heritage museum at Gaydon has this problem. I guess i=
t=92s a lot easier to ignore the curve when repairing the rot at the bottom=
 of the fender=85but the replacements from AH spares and others do have the=
 correct line.



Stephen, BJ8



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The best way to obtain good results with folding the metal over your bead i=
s to figure out the diameter of your bead and then multiply that number by =
2.5 to have the necessary amount of sheet metal to fold over. Once you have=
 that, butt weld your new bead to
 the old one, clean your weld and fold the metal over. That has worked for =
me for many years now.</div>
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Jean</div>
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com &lt;michael.salter@gmail.com&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> November 10, 2026 8:29 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Bob Haskell' &lt;rchaskell@earthlink.net&gt;; 'Jean Caron' &lt;=
vintage_roadster_restoration@hotmail.com&gt;; gradea1@charter.net &lt;grade=
a1@charter.net&gt;; healeys@autox.team.net &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;; =
'Bob Spidell' &lt;bspidell@comcast.net&gt;<br>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal">=93(plus, I haven't figured out how the meld the e=
xisting bead with the replacement bead)=94.</p>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal">Doing that correctly takes some skill ! We used to=
 remove the sheet metal but leave the wire then form a new bead over the or=
iginal wire.
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal">Once the wire has been cut you are faced with a ve=
ry difficult challenge to produce a joint that won=92t crack.</p>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal">M<span style=3D""></span></p>
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f"> Healeys &lt;healeys-bounces@autox.team.net&gt;
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Bob Haskell<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 10, 2026 8:29 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jean Caron &lt;vintage_roadster_restoration@hotmail.com&gt;; gra=
dea1@charter.net; healeys@autox.team.net; Bob Spidell &lt;bspidell@comcast.=
net&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Nice car!</span></p>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;=
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 of them.</span>
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<pre>Bob Haskell</pre>
<pre>Austin-Healey 3000 roadster registrar</pre>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal">On 11/9/26 20:47, Jean Caron wrote:</p>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#212121">Now at $50000.00. Ev=
erything happens in the last couple of hours.</span></p>
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Healeys
<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";>&lt;healeys-bounces@autox=
.team.net&gt;</a> on behalf of Hank Leach
<a href=3D"mailto:gradea1@charter.net";>&lt;gradea1@charter.net&gt;</a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 09 November 2026 17:14:22<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net=
</a> <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>
&lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;</a>; Bob Spidell <a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@=
comcast.net">&lt;bspidell@comcast.net&gt;</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Nice car!</span> </p>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">Great comments and =
spot on. I have been watching BAT and lately we have had a few good sales. =
It will be interesting to see what happens to the
<strong><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Aptos&quot;,sans-serif">no reserve=
-for charity! </span>
</strong>100M that is currently about $35K-whats that about? Hank<br>
-------------------- <br>
<br>
From: &quot;Bob Spidell via Healeys&quot; <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.t=
eam.net">&lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;</a>
<br>
lt;bspidell@comcast.net&gt;</a>
<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>&lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt=
;</a> <br>
Sent: November 9, 2026 at 8:41 AM PST <br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Nice car! <br>
Wholly agree. First thing I look for in a side shot is the slight curve of =
the bottom rockers; when we restored my BN2 I ordered from Kilmartin becaus=
e their parts were faithful to the original curve. Another thing that gives=
 a resto away is the wire bead inside
 the rear wing edges; unfortunately, when I replaced the doglegs on my BJ8 =
I got aftermarket panels that didn't have the bead. I bought them later but=
 haven't felt compelled enough to redo them (plus, I haven't figured out ho=
w the meld the existing bead with
 the replacement bead).<br>
<br>
It's a common fallacy of owners of restored cars that their car is 'worth' =
what they've put into it, both in dollars and hours. The car is worth what =
the market will offer, period. I also feel a resto of a Healey is more diff=
icult than the shiny 'restomods'
 you see on B-J and other auctions. Healeys are a semi-monocoque (unibody) =
build;&nbsp; muscle cars are usually body-on-frame, which is a simpler buil=
d (also, parts are more available, from Summit and others).&nbsp;<br>
<br>
Bob<br>
<br>
&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal">On 11/9/2026 6:20 AM, Stephen Hutchings via Healey=
s wrote:</p>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt; margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal">What spoils a lot of otherwise nice cars for me is=
 the line at the bottom of the front fender/wing. The line should have a su=
btle curve to it, but so many restorers have straightened out that line so =
it loses it curve. Even the Healey
 3000 in the heritage museum at Gaydon has this problem. I guess it=92s a l=
ot easier to ignore the curve when repairing the rot at the bottom of the f=
ender=85but the replacements from AH spares and others do have the correct =
line.
</p>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal">Stephen, BJ8</p>
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