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Yes, cold, exactly as Jean describes.
M
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From: Jean Caron <vintage_roadster_restoration@hotmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 10 November 2026 23:56:35
To: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>; michael.salter@gmail.com <michael.s=
alter@gmail.com>; 'Bob Haskell' <rchaskell@earthlink.net>; gradea1@charter.=
net <gradea1@charter.net>; healeys@autox.team.net <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Nice car!
I have always done it cold, using the lightest Snap-On flat body hammer I h=
ave, small blows but lots of them doing it in small increments at a time al=
ways produce the best results.
Jean
Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada=92s largest network.
________________________________
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
Sent: Tuesday, 10 November 2026 23:42:11
To: Jean Caron <vintage_roadster_restoration@hotmail.com>; michael.salter@g=
mail.com <michael.salter@gmail.com>; 'Bob Haskell' <rchaskell@earthlink.net=
>; gradea1@charter.net <gradea1@charter.net>; healeys@autox.team.net <heale=
ys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Nice car!
Thanks Jean and Michael.
Is it advisable to heat the sheet metal to facilitate folding/wrapping, or =
does it warp or damage nearby metal too much?
Bob
On 11/10/2026 1:33 PM, Jean Caron wrote:
The best way to obtain good results with folding the metal over your bead i=
s to figure out the diameter of your bead and then multiply that number by =
2.5 to have the necessary amount of sheet metal to fold over. Once you have=
that, butt weld your new bead to the old one, clean your weld and fold the=
metal over. That has worked for me for many years now.
Jean
________________________________
Sent: November 10, 2026 8:29 PM
ast.net>
Subject: RE: [Healeys] Nice car!
=93(plus, I haven't figured out how the meld the existing bead with the rep=
lacement bead)=94.
Doing that correctly takes some skill ! We used to remove the sheet metal b=
ut leave the wire then form a new bead over the original wire.
Once the wire has been cut you are faced with a very difficult challenge to=
produce a joint that won=92t crack.
M
.team.net> On Behalf Of Bob Haskell
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2026 8:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Nice car!
BAT - 276 auctions closing today. Their daily email didn't show 111 of the=
m.
Bob Haskell
Austin-Healey 3000 roadster registrar
On 11/9/26 20:47, Jean Caron wrote:
Now at $50000.00. Everything happens in the last couple of hours.
Jean
Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada=92s largest network.
________________________________
rter.net>
Sent: Monday, 09 November 2026 17:14:22
mailto:bspidell@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Nice car!
Great comments and spot on. I have been watching BAT and lately we have had=
a few good sales. It will be interesting to see what happens to the no res=
erve-for charity! 100M that is currently about $35K-whats that about? Hank
--------------------
ox.team.net>
Sent: November 9, 2026 at 8:41 AM PST
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Nice car!
Wholly agree. First thing I look for in a side shot is the slight curve of =
the bottom rockers; when we restored my BN2 I ordered from Kilmartin becaus=
e their parts were faithful to the original curve. Another thing that gives=
a resto away is the wire bead inside the rear wing edges; unfortunately, w=
hen I replaced the doglegs on my BJ8 I got aftermarket panels that didn't h=
ave the bead. I bought them later but haven't felt compelled enough to redo=
them (plus, I haven't figured out how the meld the existing bead with the =
replacement bead).
It's a common fallacy of owners of restored cars that their car is 'worth' =
what they've put into it, both in dollars and hours. The car is worth what =
the market will offer, period. I also feel a resto of a Healey is more diff=
icult than the shiny 'restomods' you see on B-J and other auctions. Healeys=
are a semi-monocoque (unibody) build; muscle cars are usually body-on-fra=
me, which is a simpler build (also, parts are more available, from Summit a=
nd others).
Bob
On 11/9/2026 6:20 AM, Stephen Hutchings via Healeys wrote:
What spoils a lot of otherwise nice cars for me is the line at the bottom o=
f the front fender/wing. The line should have a subtle curve to it, but so =
many restorers have straightened out that line so it loses it curve. Even t=
he Healey 3000 in the heritage museum at Gaydon has this problem. I guess i=
t=92s a lot easier to ignore the curve when repairing the rot at the bottom=
of the fender=85but the replacements from AH spares and others do have the=
correct line.
Stephen, BJ8
Sent from my iPad
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 10 November 2026 23:56:35<br>
<b>To:</b> Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>; michael.salter@gmail.c=
om <michael.salter@gmail.com>; 'Bob Haskell' <rchaskell@earthlink.=
net>; gradea1@charter.net <gradea1@charter.net>; healeys@autox.tea=
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color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> Bob Spidell <bsp=
idell@comcast.net><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 10 November 2026 23:42:11<br>
<b>To:</b> Jean Caron <vintage_roadster_restoration@hotmail.com>; mic=
hael.salter@gmail.com <michael.salter@gmail.com>; 'Bob Haskell' <r=
chaskell@earthlink.net>; gradea1@charter.net <gradea1@charter.net>=
; healeys@autox.team.net <healeys@autox.team.net><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Nice car!</font>
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<div>Thanks Jean and Michael.<br>
<br>
Is it advisable to heat the sheet metal to facilitate folding/wrapping, or =
does it warp or damage nearby metal too much? <br>
<br>
Bob<br>
<br>
<div class=3D"x_x_moz-cite-prefix">On 11/10/2026 1:33 PM, Jean Caron wrote:=
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The best way to obtain good results with folding the metal over your bead i=
s to figure out the diameter of your bead and then multiply that number by =
2.5 to have the necessary amount of sheet metal to fold over. Once you have=
that, butt weld your new bead to
the old one, clean your weld and fold the metal over. That has worked for =
me for many years now.</div>
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Jean</div>
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<a class=3D"x_x_moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:michael.salter@gma=
il.com">michael.salter@gmail.com</a>
<a class=3D"x_x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:michael.salter@gmail.=
com"><michael.salter@gmail.com></a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> November 10, 2026 8:29 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Bob Haskell' <a class=3D"x_x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mai=
lto:rchaskell@earthlink.net">
<rchaskell@earthlink.net></a>; 'Jean Caron' <a class=3D"x_x_moz-txt-l=
ink-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:vintage_roadster_restoration@hotmail.com";>
<vintage_roadster_restoration@hotmail.com></a>; <a class=3D"x_x_moz-t=
xt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:gradea1@charter.net";>
gradea1@charter.net</a> <a class=3D"x_x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mail=
to:gradea1@charter.net">
<gradea1@charter.net></a>; <a class=3D"x_x_moz-txt-link-abbreviated" =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>
healeys@autox.team.net</a> <a class=3D"x_x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"m=
ailto:healeys@autox.team.net">
<healeys@autox.team.net></a>; 'Bob Spidell' <a class=3D"x_x_moz-txt-l=
ink-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net";>
<bspidell@comcast.net></a><br>
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<p class=3D"x_x_x_MsoNormal">=93(plus, I haven't figured out how the meld t=
he existing bead with the replacement bead)=94.</p>
<p class=3D"x_x_x_MsoNormal">Doing that correctly takes some skill ! We use=
d to remove the sheet metal but leave the wire then form a new bead over th=
e original wire.
</p>
<p class=3D"x_x_x_MsoNormal">Once the wire has been cut you are faced with =
a very difficult challenge to produce a joint that won=92t crack.</p>
<p class=3D"x_x_x_MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class=3D"x_x_x_MsoNormal">M<span style=3D""></span></p>
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0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang=
=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-=
serif"> Healeys
<a class=3D"x_x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox=
.team.net">
<healeys-bounces@autox.team.net></a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bob Haskell<=
br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 10, 2026 8:29 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jean Caron <a class=3D"x_x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto=
:vintage_roadster_restoration@hotmail.com">
<vintage_roadster_restoration@hotmail.com></a>; <a class=3D"x_x_moz-t=
xt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:gradea1@charter.net";>
gradea1@charter.net</a>; <a class=3D"x_x_moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"=
mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>
healeys@autox.team.net</a>; Bob Spidell <a class=3D"x_x_moz-txt-link-rfc239=
6E" href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net";>
<bspidell@comcast.net></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Nice car!</span></p>
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<p class=3D"x_x_x_MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class=3D"x_x_x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Courier New&q=
uot;">BAT - 276 auctions closing today. Their daily email didn't show=
111 of them.</span>
</p>
<pre>Bob Haskell</pre>
<pre>Austin-Healey 3000 roadster registrar</pre>
<p class=3D"x_x_x_MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class=3D"x_x_x_MsoNormal">On 11/9/26 20:47, Jean Caron wrote:</p>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt; margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p class=3D"x_x_x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#212121">Now at $50000.00=
. Everything happens in the last couple of hours.</span></p>
<p class=3D"x_x_x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#212121"> </span></p=
>
<p class=3D"x_x_x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#212121">Jean</span></p>
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<p class=3D"x_x_x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#212121">Sent from my Bel=
l Samsung device over Canada=92s largest network.</span></p>
</div>
<div class=3D"x_x_x_MsoNormal" align=3D"center" style=3D"text-align:center"=
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<p class=3D"x_x_x_MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-famil=
y:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black">From:</span></b><span style=
=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:bla=
ck"> Healeys
<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";><healeys-bounces@autox=
.team.net></a> on behalf of Hank Leach
<a href=3D"mailto:gradea1@charter.net";><gradea1@charter.net></a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 09 November 2026 17:14:22<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; class=3D"x_x_moz-txt-l=
ink-freetext">
healeys@autox.team.net</a> <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";><he=
aleys@autox.team.net></a>; Bob Spidell
<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net";><bspidell@comcast.net></a><br=
>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Nice car!</span> </p>
<p class=3D"x_x_x_MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<p class=3D"x_x_x_MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">Great comments =
and spot on. I have been watching BAT and lately we have had a few good sal=
es. It will be interesting to see what happens to the
<strong><span style=3D"font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">no reserve=
-for charity! </span>
</strong>100M that is currently about $35K-whats that about? Hank<br>
-------------------- <br>
<br>
From: "Bob Spidell via Healeys" <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.t=
eam.net"><healeys@autox.team.net></a>
<br>
lt;bspidell@comcast.net></a>
<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";><healeys@autox.team.net>=
;</a> <br>
Sent: November 9, 2026 at 8:41 AM PST <br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Nice car! <br>
Wholly agree. First thing I look for in a side shot is the slight curve of =
the bottom rockers; when we restored my BN2 I ordered from Kilmartin becaus=
e their parts were faithful to the original curve. Another thing that gives=
a resto away is the wire bead inside
the rear wing edges; unfortunately, when I replaced the doglegs on my BJ8 =
I got aftermarket panels that didn't have the bead. I bought them later but=
haven't felt compelled enough to redo them (plus, I haven't figured out ho=
w the meld the existing bead with
the replacement bead).<br>
<br>
It's a common fallacy of owners of restored cars that their car is 'worth' =
what they've put into it, both in dollars and hours. The car is worth what =
the market will offer, period. I also feel a resto of a Healey is more diff=
icult than the shiny 'restomods'
you see on B-J and other auctions. Healeys are a semi-monocoque (unibody) =
build; muscle cars are usually body-on-frame, which is a simpler buil=
d (also, parts are more available, from Summit and others). <br>
<br>
Bob<br>
<br>
</p>
<p class=3D"x_x_x_MsoNormal">On 11/9/2026 6:20 AM, Stephen Hutchings via He=
aleys wrote:</p>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt; margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p class=3D"x_x_x_MsoNormal">What spoils a lot of otherwise nice cars for m=
e is the line at the bottom of the front fender/wing. The line should have =
a subtle curve to it, but so many restorers have straightened out that line=
so it loses it curve. Even the Healey
3000 in the heritage museum at Gaydon has this problem. I guess it=92s a l=
ot easier to ignore the curve when repairing the rot at the bottom of the f=
ender=85but the replacements from AH spares and others do have the correct =
line.
</p>
<p class=3D"x_x_x_MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class=3D"x_x_x_MsoNormal">Stephen, BJ8</p>
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