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I did literally thousands of inline and terminal connections while building
and rewiring the main and sub panels of my boat and always used
*proper* cutters,
strippers and crimping tools with quality tinned terminal
fittings--sometimes resin-filled and sometimes not depending upon location
and service, etc. If there was ever a failure it was only due to a bad
crimp, etc.
In addition to what Bob says re these fittings only being for inline butt
joints there is always the risk of damaging adjacent wiring with careless
or too much heat, etc.
They look slick but I think I'd agree with Bob.
Best--Michael
On Sun, Oct 1, 2023 at 1:23=E2=80=AFPM Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> w=
rote:
> I've never used these--in fact, this is the first I've heard of them--but=
,
> of course, that never stopped me from having an opinion or two. My 'hot
> take' (heh):
>
> 1) there may be solder formulations that a heat gun could melt, but
> calling this 'solder' seems to be a mis-characterization: the 'fine print=
'
> says it's 'hot melt adhesive.' I didn't see anything about its
> conductivity, nor it's strength (though the shrink wrap part would be
> reinforcing).
>
> 2) when I was maintaining my own aircraft, I subscribed to a magazine
> called 'Light Plane Maintenance.' It didn't take any advertising, and nev=
er
> shied away from 'calling it like it is.' They did exhaustive research and
> experimentation on the benefit/risk of solder joints vs. crimp joints and
> came to the conclusion that crimping was superior to soldering (and easie=
r,
> to boot). But, it has to be done properly; e.g.:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DeIfoSSmlQR8
>
> 3) I only see them as being used for splices; apparently, you still need
> to employ crimping or soldering for terminals (loop, spade, etc.). I'd
> prefer all my wiring to be consistent.
>
> 4) the advert claims they are 'waterproof;' that, I think, is a stretch.
> Most similar ads only claim 'water resistant' (for liability, I suspect;
> water will eventually get into almost everything).
>
> 5) for most solder joints you want to twist the bare ends together; that
> doesn't seem possible with these.
>
> So, no dice for me.
>
> bs
>
>
>
> On 10/1/2023 7:46 AM, Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote:
>
> Ah, yes. Good point!
>
> 200PCs Solderstick Waterproof Solder Wire Connector Kit Original Connecto=
r
> Tools | eBay <https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/404496927584>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Jim Ryan <ryan@jimryan.com> <ryan@jimryan.com>
> *Sent:* 01 October 2023 14:01
> *To:* simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com
> *Cc:* Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net> <healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Solder joints
>
>
>
> Simon,
>
>
>
> I didn't see a link or attachment.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 1, 2023, 3:39 AM Simon Lachlan via Healeys <
> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Has anyone used these? And, if so, are they any good?
>
> I saw them on some car show and was impressed. Seems like they=E2=80=99d =
make a
> pretty decent joint if they=E2=80=99re as good as they=E2=80=99re cracked=
up to be. Not
> very original in their appearance but sound enough??
> Touch wood, I don=E2=80=99t have many (any?) connections to make in the 3=
000, but
> for general use?
> Simon
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">I did=
literally=C2=A0thousands of inline and terminal connections while building=
and rewiring the main and sub panels of my boat and always used <i><b><u>p=
roper</u></b></i>=C2=A0cutters, strippers and crimping tools with quality t=
inned terminal fittings--sometimes resin-filled and sometimes not depending=
upon location and service, etc.=C2=A0 If there was ever a failure it was o=
nly=C2=A0due to a bad crimp, etc.=C2=A0=C2=A0<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_=
default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div>I<font color=3D"#0000ff">n addit=
ion to what Bob says re these fittings only being for inline butt joints th=
ere is always the risk of damaging adjacent wiring with careless or too muc=
h heat, etc.</font><br><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"=
>They look slick but I think=C2=A0I'd agree with Bob.</div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_de=
fault" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Best--Michael=C2=A0 =C2=A0</div></div><br><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Oct =
1, 2023 at 1:23=E2=80=AFPM Bob Spidell <<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comca=
st.net" target=3D"_blank">bspidell@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blo=
ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left=
:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
=20
=20
=20
<div>
I've never used these--in fact, this is the first I've heard of
them--but, of course, that never stopped me from having an opinion
or two. My 'hot take' (heh):<br>
<br>
1) there may be solder formulations that a heat gun could melt, but
calling this 'solder' seems to be a mis-characterization: the &=
#39;fine
print' says it's 'hot melt adhesive.' I didn't see =
anything about
its conductivity, nor it's strength (though the shrink wrap part
would be reinforcing). <br>
<br>
2) when I was maintaining my own aircraft, I subscribed to a
magazine called 'Light Plane Maintenance.' It didn't take a=
ny
advertising, and never shied away from 'calling it like it is.'=
They
did exhaustive research and experimentation on the benefit/risk of
solder joints vs. crimp joints and came to the conclusion that
crimping was superior to soldering (and easier, to boot). But, it
has to be done properly; e.g.:<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DeIfoSSmlQR8"; target=3D"_bl=
ank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DeIfoSSmlQR8</a><br>
<br>
3) I only see them as being used for splices; apparently, you still
need to employ crimping or soldering for terminals (loop, spade,
etc.). I'd prefer all my wiring to be consistent.<br>
<br>
4) the advert claims they are 'waterproof;' that, I think, is a
stretch. Most similar ads only claim 'water resistant' (for
liability, I suspect; water will eventually get into almost
everything).<br>
<br>
5) for most solder joints you want to twist the bare ends together;
that doesn't seem possible with these.<br>
<br>
So, no dice for me.<br>
<br>
bs<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<div>On 10/1/2023 7:46 AM, Simon Lachlan via
Healeys wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
=20
=20
=20
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Ah,
yes. Good point!<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/404496=
927584" target=3D"_blank">200PCs Solderstick Waterproof Solder
Wire Connector Kit Original Connector Tools | eBay</a><span><u>=
</u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><spa=
n lang=3D"EN-US"> Jim Ryan <a href=3D"mailto:ryan@jimryan.com"; target=3D"_b=
lank"><ryan@jimryan.com></a> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> 01 October 2023 14:01<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com"=
target=3D"_blank">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Healeys <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; ta=
rget=3D"_blank"><healeys@autox.team.net></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Solder joints<u></u><u></u></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Simon,<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I didn't see a link or attachment.<u=
></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Sun, Oct 1, 2023, 3:39 AM Simon
Lachlan via Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.=
net" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>>
wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bot=
tom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;mar=
gin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm">
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Has
anyone used these? And, if so, are they any good?<u></u><=
u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I
saw them on some car show and was impressed. Seems
like they=E2=80=99d make a pretty decent joint if they=E2=
=80=99re as
good as they=E2=80=99re cracked up to be. Not very origin=
al in
their appearance but sound enough?? <br>
Touch wood, I don=E2=80=99t have many (any?) connections =
to
make in the 3000, but for general use?<br>
Simon<u></u><u></u></p>
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