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I've never used these--in fact, this is the first I've heard of
them--but, of course, that never stopped me from having an opinion or
two. My 'hot take' (heh):
1) there may be solder formulations that a heat gun could melt, but
calling this 'solder' seems to be a mis-characterization: the 'fine
print' says it's 'hot melt adhesive.' I didn't see anything about its
conductivity, nor it's strength (though the shrink wrap part would be
reinforcing).
2) when I was maintaining my own aircraft, I subscribed to a magazine
called 'Light Plane Maintenance.' It didn't take any advertising, and
never shied away from 'calling it like it is.' They did exhaustive
research and experimentation on the benefit/risk of solder joints vs.
crimp joints and came to the conclusion that crimping was superior to
soldering (and easier, to boot). But, it has to be done properly; e.g.:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIfoSSmlQR8
3) I only see them as being used for splices; apparently, you still need
to employ crimping or soldering for terminals (loop, spade, etc.). I'd
prefer all my wiring to be consistent.
4) the advert claims they are 'waterproof;' that, I think, is a stretch.
Most similar ads only claim 'water resistant' (for liability, I suspect;
water will eventually get into almost everything).
5) for most solder joints you want to twist the bare ends together; that
doesn't seem possible with these.
So, no dice for me.
bs
On 10/1/2023 7:46 AM, Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote:
>
> Ah, yes. Good point!
>
> 200PCs Solderstick Waterproof Solder Wire Connector Kit Original
> Connector Tools | eBay <https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/404496927584>
>
> *From:*Jim Ryan <ryan@jimryan.com>
> *Sent:* 01 October 2023 14:01
> *To:* simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com
> *Cc:* Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Solder joints
>
> Simon,
>
> I didn't see a link or attachment.
>
> On Sun, Oct 1, 2023, 3:39 AM Simon Lachlan via Healeys
> <healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Has anyone used these? And, if so, are they any good?
>
> I saw them on some car show and was impressed. Seems like theyâ??d
> make a pretty decent joint if theyâ??re as good as theyâ??re cracked
> up to be. Not very original in their appearance but sound enough??
> Touch wood, I donâ??t have many (any?) connections to make in the
> 3000, but for general use?
> Simon
>
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I've never used these--in fact, this is the first I've heard of
them--but, of course, that never stopped me from having an opinion
or two. My 'hot take' (heh):<br>
<br>
1) there may be solder formulations that a heat gun could melt, but
calling this 'solder' seems to be a mis-characterization: the 'fine
print' says it's 'hot melt adhesive.' I didn't see anything about
its conductivity, nor it's strength (though the shrink wrap part
would be reinforcing). <br>
<br>
2) when I was maintaining my own aircraft, I subscribed to a
magazine called 'Light Plane Maintenance.' It didn't take any
advertising, and never shied away from 'calling it like it is.' They
did exhaustive research and experimentation on the benefit/risk of
solder joints vs. crimp joints and came to the conclusion that
crimping was superior to soldering (and easier, to boot). But, it
has to be done properly; e.g.:<br>
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIfoSSmlQR8";>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIfoSSmlQR8</a><br>
<br>
3) I only see them as being used for splices; apparently, you still
need to employ crimping or soldering for terminals (loop, spade,
etc.). I'd prefer all my wiring to be consistent.<br>
<br>
4) the advert claims they are 'waterproof;' that, I think, is a
stretch. Most similar ads only claim 'water resistant' (for
liability, I suspect; water will eventually get into almost
everything).<br>
<br>
5) for most solder joints you want to twist the bare ends together;
that doesn't seem possible with these.<br>
<br>
So, no dice for me.<br>
<br>
bs<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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good?<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I
saw them on some car show and was impressed. Seems
like theyâ??d make a pretty decent joint if theyâ??re as
good as theyâ??re cracked up to be. Not very original in
their appearance but sound enough?? <br>
Touch wood, I donâ??t have many (any?) connections to
make in the 3000, but for general use?<br>
Simon<o:p></o:p></p>
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