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Hello,
It seems like there is some interest in balancing brake drums and I can add
a little more from my experience. My two original 1960 brake drums looked
identical and had no signs of factory balancing. One drum needed 34 grams
of weight but the other drum needed 94 grams despite both looking identical=
.
The 34 gram drum was easily balanced by adding a length of 1/4" dia lead
behind the rib with JB Weld. The 94 gram drum was a problem as it required
too much lead positioned too far away from the light spot. I ended up
adding lead to one side and removing part of the rib from the opposite
side. Based on my experience I will suggest if the weight needed is greater
than 50 grams then it is best to both add weight and remove part of the rib=
.
My tires were balanced off the car and I have no shakes or vibrations.
Harold
On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 8:29=E2=80=AFAM Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> =
wrote:
> Here's a shot of removed metal on one of my BN2's drums (cut at about 9
> o'clock). This was done so cleanly I've always assumed it was done at the
> 'factory.'
>
>
> On 5/19/2023 9:54 AM, Perry Small via Healeys wrote:
>
> Listers
> If you look at the drums you will see areas that were ground off to
> balance the drums.
> I have given away all my spare parts so I do not have a good example to
> photograph.
> Perry
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 19, 2023, at 2:19 AM, josef-eckert--- via Healeys
> <healeys@autox.team.net> <healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BF
>
> Good question Bob! I doubt they have done it and the cars were running
> anyway.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Josef
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original-Nachricht-----
>
> Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Brake Drum balance -- was Wire Wheel Balancer
>
> Datum: 2023-05-19T07:56:40+0200
>
> Von: "Robert Parker via Healeys" <healeys@autox.team.net>
> <healeys@autox.team.net>
>
> An: "Michael Salter" <michaelsalter@gmail.com> <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Has anyone bothered to check whether the factory ever balanced the drums
> or even worried about it? It=E2=80=99s not that I don=E2=80=99t care, it=
=E2=80=99s just I=E2=80=99d like to
> know if anyone has heard of that happening at the factory. Bob, 61BT7.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 17, 2023, at 8:32 PM, Michael Salter via Healeys
> <healeys@autox.team.net> <healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> With all this noise about balancing brake drums I thought I had better
> take a look at the ones on my BN2.
> I'm in the process if machining them back to balance now.
> Bit of a task on my 12" lathe but it's happening.
>
> On Wed., May 17, 2023, 8:46 p.m. Michael MacLean via Healeys, <
> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> Don't grind it. Have it machined off.
>> Mike MacLean
>>
>> On Wed, May 17, 2023, 6:58 AM Richard Kahn <tahoehealey@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hendrix welded more material to my drums as needed and it seems to have
>>> worked fine. I would not like grinding off material as it might affect =
the
>>> integrity of the drum by making it thinner, effecting the heat distribu=
tion
>>> and strength. Just some rambling from someone who doesn't know what he=
is
>>> talking about.
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of
>>> alfuller194@gmail.com <alfuller194@gmail.com>
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 17, 2023 12:23 AM
>>> *To:* 'Michael MacLean' <springer.mike51@gmail.com>
>>> *Cc:* 'Healey List' <healeys@autox.team.net>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Brake Drum balance -- was Wire Wheel Balancer
>>>
>>>
>>> Mike =E2=80=93 I would think that would be the likely explanation for h=
aving
>>> sections of the drum rim machined off.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------------
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Al Fuller
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Michael MacLean <springer.mike51@gmail.com>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 16, 2023 2:47 PM
>>> *To:* alfuller194@gmail.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Brake Drum balance -- was Wire Wheel Balancer
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Al, list,
>>>
>>> The drums for my BN2 has sections of the raised rim machined off.
>>> Does this mean my drums were balanced in the past?
>>>
>>> Mike MacLean
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 16, 2023, 2:30 PM <alfuller194@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Bob: If you are wondering about brake drum balancing methods, you may
>>> be interested in the two methods used on my Healeys.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> One shop trimmed off the fins as needed to balance the drums, one
>>> needing more trimming than the other =E2=80=93 but they both came out w=
ell.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> A different shop welded rod material onto my current BJ-8=E2=80=99s dru=
ms to
>>> balance them. I think these drums were more out of balance than on prio=
r
>>> cars. They were careful to call me ahead of the operation to ask how mu=
ch
>>> clearance I had between the wheel and drum, and I was able to take them=
a
>>> wheel and hub so they could see how it all fit together. The results a=
re
>>> just fine, also.
>>>
>>> ----------------
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Al Fuller
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Bob
>>> Haskell via Healeys
>>> *Sent:* Monday, May 15, 2023 2:36 PM
>>> *To:* Harold Manifold <manifold@telus.net>; Healey List <
>>> healeys@autox.team.net>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Wire Wheel Balancer
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Harold,
>>>
>>> How did you balance the drums - add or remove material? Care to provide
>>> any details?
>>>
>>> Bob Haskell
>>>
>>> Austin-Healey 3000 roadster registrar
>>>
>>> On 5/15/23 11:32, Harold Manifold wrote:
>>>
>>> Another consideration for balancing the rear tires is the brake drums. =
I
>>> have the original BMC brake drums and was surprised at how out of balan=
ce
>>> they were. I static balanced the brake drums to go with the
>>> separately balanced wheels and tires. No vibrations, shimmies or skuttl=
e
>>> shakes so far.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Harold
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 12:34=E2=80=AFAM <greylinn@ozemail.com.au> wrot=
e:
>>>
>>> Here in Brisbane there=E2=80=99s at least one place (near me) that does=
on-car
>>> balancing. The wheels on my 100 don=E2=80=99t have a central hole, so c=
an=E2=80=99t be
>>> balanced on a regular machine. That said, the last set of Khumo Ecowing
>>> ES31s I bought are fine with no balancing!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Peter Linn
>>>
>>> Brisbane
>>>
>>> BN1 Holden V6
>>>
>>> MG TC special
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *m.g.sha=
rp---
>>> via Healeys
>>> *Sent:* Monday, May 15, 2023 1:07 PM
>>> *To:* 'Harold Manifold' <manifold@telus.net>; 'HealeyRick' <
>>> healeyrik@gmail.com>
>>> *Cc:* 'Healeys' <healeys@autox.team.net>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Wire Wheel Balancer
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I made up my own adaptor using a used hub and knock-off (spinner). I
>>> had a machinist mount the hub on the lathe and ensure that it was true =
on
>>> the inside edges (where the bearings fit) and had him put a slight cham=
fer
>>> on the edges to provide better registration for the standard cones on a
>>> modern balancer. Then we machined the centre out of the spinner so th=
at
>>> when the wheel is mounted on the hub and the spinner is tightened, the
>>> outer cone on the balancer fits through it and registers on the hub. T=
hat
>>> part is a little tricky as if you machine the hole too big, the spinner
>>> will end up in two pieces =E2=80=93 measure carefully! Hub and spinner=
was $25 at
>>> a swap meet and machining was $50. I believe this adaptor will work on=
any
>>> post-war wire wheels except the Jags, which had different hubs. Worked=
a
>>> treat on my TC wheels. Healey is running vibration-free- so leaving it
>>> alone for now.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I too liked on-wheel balancing and in my simple thinking it balanced th=
e
>>> drum or disk at the same time =E2=80=93 as long as you remembered to ma=
rk the
>>> position of the wheels when you took them off and did not rotate them (=
to a
>>> different position on the car)! That is likely one reason they are no=
t
>>> used anymore, because if your drums were out of balance and you added
>>> weights to the wheel that balanced them out, then every time you remove=
d
>>> the wheel, you=E2=80=99d loose the balance, unless it went back in exac=
tly the same
>>> position. Anyhow it=E2=80=99s a moot point as I have not seen an on-w=
heel
>>> balancer for decades. I imagine that disks run very true anyhow, but =
when
>>> I balanced the drums on the TC they were significantly off. I hear
>>> balancing Healey drums brings good results, but never felt the need as =
my
>>> BT7 has always run pretty smooth. If anyone in Ontario (Canada) wants
>>> drums balanced, Garland and Sons in Scarborough did great work for me.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mirek
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Harold
>>> Manifold
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 11, 2023 11:35 AM
>>> *To:* HealeyRick <healeyrik@gmail.com>
>>> *Cc:* Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Wire Wheel Balancer
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It looks like the kit is designed to follow the Dunlop/MWS
>>> recommendations for balancing. See attached. It should be a good piece =
of
>>> kit.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Harold
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 8:28=E2=80=AFAM HealeyRick via Healeys <
>>> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> AH Spares just sent out this email about a wire wheel balancer kit to
>>> mount the wheels on a modern balancing machine. What are your thoughts=
?
>>> https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-healey/big-healey/wheels/wire-wheel-b=
alancing-kit.aspx?utm_medium=3Demail-1st&utm_source=3Dnewsletter&utm_medium=
=3Demail
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rick Neville aka "HealeyRick"
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hello,<div><br></div><div>It seems like there is some inte=
rest in balancing brake drums and I can add a little more from my experienc=
e. My two original 1960 brake drums looked identical and had no signs of fa=
ctory balancing. One drum needed 34 grams of weight but the other drum need=
ed 94 grams despite both looking identical.</div><div><br></div><div>The 34=
gram drum was easily balanced by adding a length of 1/4" dia lead beh=
ind the rib with JB Weld. The 94 gram drum was a problem as it required too=
much lead positioned too far away from the light spot. I ended up adding l=
ead to one side and removing part of the rib from the opposite side. Based =
on my experience I will suggest if the weight needed is greater than 50 gra=
ms then it is best to both add weight and remove part of the rib.</div><div=
><br></div><div>My tires were balanced off=C2=A0the=C2=A0car and I have no =
shakes=C2=A0or vibrations.</div><div><br></div><div>Harold</div></div><br><=
div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, May=
22, 2023 at 8:29=E2=80=AFAM Bob Spidell <<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@com=
cast.net">bspidell@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(2=
04,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
=20
=20
=20
<div>
Here's a shot of removed metal on one of my BN2's drums (cut at
about 9 o'clock). This was done so cleanly I've always assumed =
it
was done at the 'factory.'<br>
<br>
<br>
<div>On 5/19/2023 9:54 AM, Perry Small via
Healeys wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
=20
Listers=C2=A0
<div>If you look at the drums you will see areas that were ground
off to balance the drums.=C2=A0
<div>I have given away all my spare parts so I do not have a
good example to photograph.=C2=A0</div>
<div>Perry</div>
<div><br>
<br>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">On May 19, 2023, at 2:19 AM,
josef-eckert--- via Healeys <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.t=
eam.net" target=3D"_blank"><healeys@autox.team.net></a>
wrote:<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF
=20
=20
<p style=3D"margin:0px"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helv=
etica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none">Good
question Bob! I doubt they have done it and the cars
were running anyway.<br>
</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helv=
etica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none">Than=
ks,</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helv=
etica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none">Jose=
f</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helv=
etica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none">=C2=
=A0</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">=C2=A0</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">=C2=A0</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">-----Original-Nachricht-----</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Brake Drum
balance -- was Wire Wheel Balancer</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">Datum: 2023-05-19T07:56:40+0200</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">Von: "Robert Parker via Healeys&=
quot;
<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank"=
><healeys@autox.team.net></a></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">An: "Michael Salter"
<a href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank=
"><michaelsalter@gmail.com></a></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">=C2=A0</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">=C2=A0</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">=C2=A0</p>
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font:12px Arial,Helvetica,sans=
-serif">Has anyone bothered to
check whether the factory ever balanced the drums or
even worried about it? It=E2=80=99s not that I don=E2=80=99=
t care, it=E2=80=99s
just I=E2=80=99d like to know if anyone has heard of that
happening at the factory. Bob, 61BT7.<br>
<br>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
<blockquote>On May 17, 2023, at 8:32 PM, Michael
Salter via Healeys <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team=
.net" target=3D"_blank"><healeys@autox.team.net></a>
wrote:<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
</div>
<blockquote>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div dir=3D"auto">With all this noise about balancing
brake drums I thought I had better take a look at
the ones on my BN2.=C2=A0
<div dir=3D"auto">I'm in the process if machining
them back to=C2=A0 balance now.=C2=A0</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">Bit of a task on my 12" lathe =
but
it's happening.</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div class=3D"gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Wed., May 17=
,
2023, 8:46 p.m. Michael MacLean via Healeys,
<<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; targe=
t=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>>
wrote:</div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px=
0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"auto">Don't grind it. Have it machi=
ned
off.
<div dir=3D"auto">Mike MacLean</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div class=3D"gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, May
17, 2023, 6:58 AM Richard Kahn <<a href=3D"m=
ailto:tahoehealey@hotmail.com" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">tahoehe=
aley@hotmail.com</a>>
wrote:</div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin=
:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"=
>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,s=
ans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Hendrix welded
more material to my drums as needed and
it seems to have worked fine. I would
not like grinding off material as it
might affect the integrity of the drum
by making it thinner, effecting the heat
distribution and strength.=C2=A0 Just some
rambling from someone who doesn't know
what he is talking about.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,s=
ans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">=C2=A0</div>
<hr style=3D"display:inline-block;width:98%">
<div dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"font-size:11p=
t;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><strong>From:</strong>
Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bou=
nces@autox.team.net" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">healey=
s-bounces@autox.team.net</a>>
on behalf of <a href=3D"mailto:alfuller19=
4@gmail.com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">alfuller194@gm=
ail.com</a>
<<a href=3D"mailto:alfuller194@gmail.c=
om" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">alfuller194@gmail.com</=
a>><br>
<strong>Sent:</strong> Wednesday, May
17, 2023 12:23 AM<br>
<strong>To:</strong> 'Michael MacLean=
'
<<a href=3D"mailto:springer.mike51@gma=
il.com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">springer.mike51@gma=
il.com</a>><br>
<strong>Cc:</strong> 'Healey List'=
;
<<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.=
net" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net=
</a>><br>
<strong>Subject:</strong> Re:
[Healeys] Brake Drum balance -- was
Wire Wheel Balancer</span>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
</div>
<div style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word;" lan=
g=3D"EN-US">
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;fon=
t-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Mike =E2=80=93 I would think
that would be the likely explanation
for having sections of the drum rim
machined off.</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;fon=
t-family:Calibri,sans-serif">=C2=A0</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;fon=
t-family:Calibri,sans-serif">----------------</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;fon=
t-family:Calibri,sans-serif">All the best,</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;fon=
t-family:Calibri,sans-serif">=C2=A0</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;fon=
t-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Al Fuller</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;fon=
t-family:Calibri,sans-serif">=C2=A0</p>
<div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bo=
ttom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3p=
t 0in 0in">
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;f=
ont-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><strong>From:</strong>
Michael MacLean <<a href=3D"mailto=
:springer.mike51@gmail.com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"=
>springer.mike51@gmail.com</a>>
<br>
<strong>Sent:</strong> Tuesday,
May 16, 2023 2:47 PM<br>
<strong>To:</strong> <a href=3D"mailt=
o:alfuller194@gmail.com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">al=
fuller194@gmail.com</a><br>
<strong>Subject:</strong> Re:
[Healeys] Brake Drum balance --
was Wire Wheel Balancer</p>
</div>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;fon=
t-family:Calibri,sans-serif">=C2=A0</p>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;f=
ont-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Al, list,=C2=A0</p>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt=
;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0The drums for
my BN2 has sections of the
raised rim machined off. Does
this mean my drums were balanced
in the past?</p>
</div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt=
;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Mike MacLean</p>
</div>
</div>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;fon=
t-family:Calibri,sans-serif">=C2=A0</p>
<div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt=
;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">On Tue, May 16,
2023, 2:30 PM <<a href=3D"mailto=
:alfuller194@gmail.com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">alf=
uller194@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:</p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;bo=
rder-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);p=
adding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in">
<div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:=
11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Bob:=C2=A0 If you
are wondering about brake
drum balancing methods, you
may be interested in the two
methods used on my Healeys.</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:=
11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">=C2=A0</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:=
11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">One shop
trimmed off the fins as
needed to balance the drums,
one needing more trimming
than the other =E2=80=93 but th=
ey
both came out well.</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:=
11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">=C2=A0</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:=
11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">A different
shop welded rod material
onto my current BJ-8=E2=80=99s =
drums
to balance them. I think
these drums were more out of
balance than on prior cars.
They were careful to call me
ahead of the operation to
ask how much clearance I had
between the wheel and drum,
and I was able to take them
a wheel and hub so they
could see how it all fit
together.=C2=A0 The results are
just fine, also.</p>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-siz=
e:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">----------------</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-siz=
e:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">All the best,</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-siz=
e:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">=C2=A0</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-siz=
e:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Al Fuller</p>
</div>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:=
11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">=C2=A0</p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border-right:none=
;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);=
padding:3pt 0in 0in">
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-s=
ize:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><strong>From:</strong>
Healeys <<a href=3D"mail=
to:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net" rel=3D"noreferrer
noreferrer" target=3D"_bl=
ank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> <strong>On
Behalf Of </strong>Bob
Haskell via Healeys<br>
<strong>Sent:</strong>
Monday, May 15, 2023
2:36 PM<br>
<strong>To:</strong>
Harold Manifold <<a href=
=3D"mailto:manifold@telus.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer
noreferrer" target=3D"_bl=
ank">manifold@telus.net</a>>; Healey List
<<a href=3D"mailto:heale=
ys@autox.team.net" rel=3D"noreferrer
noreferrer" target=3D"_bl=
ank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br>
<strong>Subject:</strong>
Re: [Healeys] Wire Wheel
Balancer</p>
</div>
</div>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:=
11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">=C2=A0</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">Harold,</=
p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">How
did you balance the drums -
add or remove material? Care
to provide any details?</p>
<pre>Bob Haskell</pre>
<pre>Austin-Healey 3000 roadster =
registrar</pre>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-siz=
e:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">On 5/15/23
11:32, Harold Manifold
wrote:</p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5=
pt;margin-bottom:5pt">
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-s=
ize:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Another
consideration for
balancing the rear tires
is the brake drums. I
have the original BMC
brake drums and was
surprised at how out of
balance they were. I
static balanced the
brake drums to go with
the separately=C2=A0balance=
d
wheels and tires. No
vibrations, shimmies or
skuttle shakes so far.</p>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font=
-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">=C2=A0</p>
</div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font=
-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Harold</p>
</div>
</div>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-siz=
e:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">=C2=A0</p>
<div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font=
-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">On Mon,
May 15, 2023 at
12:34=E2=80=AFAM <<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:greylinn@ozemail.com.au"; rel=3D"noreferrer
noreferrer" target=3D"_=
blank">greylinn@ozemail.com.au</a>> wrote:</p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border-t=
op:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,=
204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin:5pt 0in 5pt 4.8pt">
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0p=
x;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Here
in Brisbane
there=E2=80=99s a=
t
least one
place (near
me) that does
on-car
balancing. The
wheels on my
100 don=E2=80=99t=
have
a central
hole, so can=E2=
=80=99t
be balanced on
a regular
machine. That
said, the last
set of Khumo
Ecowing ES31s
I bought are
fine with no
balancing!</span>=
</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0p=
x;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">=C2=
=A0</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0p=
x;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Peter
Linn</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0p=
x;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Brisb=
ane</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0p=
x;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">BN1
Holden V6</span><=
/p>
<p style=3D"margin:0p=
x;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">MG
TC special</span>=
</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0p=
x;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">=C2=
=A0</span></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"borde=
r-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(2=
25,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in">
<p style=3D"margi=
n:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><strong>From:</strong>
Healeys <<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" =
target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>>
<strong>On
Behalf Of </stron=
g>m.g.sharp---
via Healeys<br>
<strong>Sent:</st=
rong>
Monday, May
15, 2023 1:07
PM<br>
<strong>To:</stro=
ng>
'Harold
Manifold' <=
;<a href=3D"mailto:manifold@telus.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=
=3D"_blank">manifold@telus.net</a>>; 'HealeyRick'
<<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:healeyrik@gmail.com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">h=
ealeyrik@gmail.com</a>><br>
<strong>Cc:</stro=
ng>
'Healeys'=
<<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer=
" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br>
<strong>Subject:<=
/strong>
Re: [Healeys]
Wire Wheel
Balancer</p>
</div>
</div>
<p style=3D"margin:0p=
x;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">=C2=
=A0</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0p=
x;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">I
made up my own
adaptor using
a used hub and
knock-off
(spinner).=C2=A0 =
I
had a
machinist
mount the hub
on the lathe
and ensure
that it was
true on the
inside edges
(where the
bearings fit)
and had him
put a slight
chamfer on the
edges to
provide better
registration
for the
standard cones
on a modern
balancer.=C2=A0
Then we
machined the
centre out of
the spinner
so=C2=A0 that whe=
n
the wheel is
mounted on the
hub and the
spinner is
tightened, the
outer cone on
the balancer
fits through
it and
registers on
the hub.=C2=A0 Th=
at
part is a
little tricky
as if you
machine the
hole too big,
the spinner
will end up in
two pieces =E2=80=
=93
measure
carefully!=C2=A0
Hub and
spinner was
$25 at a swap
meet and
machining was
$50.=C2=A0 I
believe this
adaptor will
work on any
post-war wire
wheels except
the Jags,
which had
different
hubs.=C2=A0 Worke=
d
a treat on my
TC wheels.=C2=A0
Healey is
running
vibration-free-
so leaving it
alone for now.</s=
pan></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0p=
x;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">=C2=
=A0</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0p=
x;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">I
too liked
on-wheel
balancing and
in my simple
thinking it
balanced the
drum or disk
at the same
time =E2=80=93 as=
long
as you
remembered to
mark the
position of
the wheels
when you took
them off and
did not rotate
them (to a
different
position on
the car)!=C2=A0
That is likely
one reason
=C2=A0they are no=
t
used anymore,
because if
your drums
were out of
balance and
you added
weights to the
wheel that
balanced them
out, then
every time you
removed the
wheel, you=E2=80=
=99d
loose the
balance,
unless it went
back in
exactly the
same position.
=C2=A0=C2=A0Anyho=
w it=E2=80=99s
a moot point
as I have not
seen an
on-wheel
balancer for
decades. =C2=A0=
=C2=A0I
imagine that
disks run very
true anyhow,
but when I
balanced the
drums on the
TC=C2=A0 they wer=
e
significantly
off.=C2=A0 I hear
balancing
Healey drums
brings good
results, but
never felt the
need as my BT7
has always run
pretty
smooth.=C2=A0 If
anyone in
Ontario
(Canada) wants
drums
balanced,
Garland and
Sons in
Scarborough
did great work
for me.</span></p=
>
<p style=3D"margin:0p=
x;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">=C2=
=A0</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0p=
x;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">Mirek=
</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0p=
x;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">=C2=
=A0</span></p>
<div style=3D"border-=
right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225=
,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in">
<p style=3D"margin:=
0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><strong>From:</strong>
Healeys <<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" =
target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>>
<strong>On
Behalf Of </stron=
g>Harold
Manifold<br>
<strong>Sent:</st=
rong>
Thursday, May
11, 2023 11:35
AM<br>
<strong>To:</stro=
ng>
HealeyRick
<<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:healeyrik@gmail.com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">h=
ealeyrik@gmail.com</a>><br>
<strong>Cc:</stro=
ng>
Healeys <<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=
=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br>
<strong>Subject:<=
/strong>
Re: [Healeys]
Wire Wheel
Balancer</p>
</div>
<p style=3D"margin:0p=
x;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">=C2=
=A0</span></p>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:=
0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">It
looks like the
kit is
designed to
follow=C2=A0the
Dunlop/MWS
recommendations
for balancing.
See attached.
It should be a
good piece of
kit.</span></p>
<div>
<p style=3D"margi=
n:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">=
=C2=A0</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margi=
n:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">H=
arold</span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p style=3D"margin:0p=
x;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">=C2=
=A0</span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margi=
n:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">O=
n
Thu, May 11,
2023 at
8:28=E2=80=AFAM
HealeyRick via
Healeys <<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=
=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:</span></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=
=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt so=
lid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin:5pt 0in 5pt 4.8pt">
<div>
<p style=3D"margi=
n:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">A=
H
Spares just
sent out this
email about a
wire wheel
balancer kit
to mount the
wheels on a
modern
balancing
machine.=C2=A0 Wh=
at
are your
thoughts?=C2=A0=
=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-healey/big-healey/wheels=
/wire-wheel-balancing-kit.aspx?utm_medium=3Demail-1st&utm_source=3Dnews=
letter&utm_medium=3Demail" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_bla=
nk">https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-healey/big-healey/wheels/wire-wheel-b=
alancing-kit.aspx?utm_medium=3Demail-1st&utm_source=3Dnewsletter&ut=
m_medium=3Demail</a></span></p>
<div>
<p style=3D"margi=
n:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">=
=C2=A0</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margi=
n:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">R=
ick
Neville aka
"HealeyRick&=
quot;</span></p>
</div>
</div>
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