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Re: [Healeys] Brake Drum balance -- was Wire Wheel Balancer

To: Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Brake Drum balance -- was Wire Wheel Balancer
From: richard mayor via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 18 May 2023 09:10:04 -0700
Cc: healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
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Use an angle grinder with a cut off wheel


Richard Mayor
boyracer466@gmail.com



> On May 17, 2023, at 7:55 PM, Michael Salter via Healeys =
<healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>=20
> With all this noise about balancing brake drums I thought I had better =
take a look at the ones on my BN2.=20
> I'm in the process if machining them back to  balance now.=20
> Bit of a task on my 12" lathe but it's happening.
>=20
> On Wed., May 17, 2023, 8:46 p.m. Michael MacLean via Healeys, =
>> Don't grind it. Have it machined off.
>> Mike MacLean
>>=20
>> On Wed, May 17, 2023, 6:58 AM Richard Kahn <tahoehealey@hotmail.com =
>>> Hendrix welded more material to my drums as needed and it seems to =
have worked fine. I would not like grinding off material as it might =
affect the integrity of the drum by making it thinner, effecting the =
heat distribution and strength.  Just some rambling from someone who =
doesn't know what he is talking about.
>>>=20
>>> From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net =
alfuller194@gmail.com =
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2023 12:23 AM
>>> To: 'Michael MacLean' <springer.mike51@gmail.com =
>>> Cc: 'Healey List' <healeys@autox.team.net =
>>> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Brake Drum balance -- was Wire Wheel Balancer
>>> =20
>>> Mike =E2=80=93 I would think that would be the likely explanation =
for having sections of the drum rim machined off.
>>> =20
>>> ----------------
>>> All the best,
>>> =20
>>> Al Fuller
>>> =20
>>> From: Michael MacLean <springer.mike51@gmail.com =
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2023 2:47 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Brake Drum balance -- was Wire Wheel Balancer
>>> =20
>>> Al, list,=20
>>>      The drums for my BN2 has sections of the raised rim machined =
off. Does this mean my drums were balanced in the past?
>>> Mike MacLean
>>> =20
>>> On Tue, May 16, 2023, 2:30 PM <alfuller194@gmail.com =
>>> Bob:  If you are wondering about brake drum balancing methods, you =
may be interested in the two methods used on my Healeys.
>>> =20
>>> One shop trimmed off the fins as needed to balance the drums, one =
needing more trimming than the other =E2=80=93 but they both came out =
well.
>>> =20
>>> A different shop welded rod material onto my current BJ-8=E2=80=99s =
drums to balance them. I think these drums were more out of balance than =
on prior cars. They were careful to call me ahead of the operation to =
ask how much clearance I had between the wheel and drum, and I was able =
to take them a wheel and hub so they could see how it all fit together.  =
The results are just fine, also.
>>> ----------------
>>> All the best,
>>> =20
>>> Al Fuller
>>> =20
>>> From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net =
Healeys
>>> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2023 2:36 PM
>>> To: Harold Manifold <manifold@telus.net =
>>> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Wire Wheel Balancer
>>> =20
>>> Harold,
>>>=20
>>> How did you balance the drums - add or remove material? Care to =
provide any details?
>>>=20
>>> Bob Haskell
>>> Austin-Healey 3000 roadster registrar
>>> On 5/15/23 11:32, Harold Manifold wrote:
>>> Another consideration for balancing the rear tires is the brake =
drums. I have the original BMC brake drums and was surprised at how out =
of balance they were. I static balanced the brake drums to go with the =
separately balanced wheels and tires. No vibrations, shimmies or skuttle =
shakes so far.=20
>>> =20
>>> Harold
>>> =20
>>> On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 12:34=E2=80=AFAM <greylinn@ozemail.com.au =
>>> Here in Brisbane there=E2=80=99s at least one place (near me) that =
does on-car balancing. The wheels on my 100 don=E2=80=99t have a central =
hole, so can=E2=80=99t be balanced on a regular machine. That said, the =
last set of Khumo Ecowing ES31s I bought are fine with no balancing!
>>> =20
>>> Peter Linn
>>> Brisbane
>>> BN1 Holden V6
>>> MG TC special
>>> =20
>>> From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net =
Healeys
>>> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2023 1:07 PM
>>> To: 'Harold Manifold' <manifold@telus.net =
>>> Cc: 'Healeys' <healeys@autox.team.net =
>>> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Wire Wheel Balancer
>>> =20
>>> I made up my own adaptor using a used hub and knock-off (spinner).  =
I had a machinist mount the hub on the lathe and ensure that it was true =
on the inside edges (where the bearings fit) and had him put a slight =
chamfer on the edges to provide better registration for the standard =
cones on a modern balancer.  Then we machined the centre out of the =
spinner so  that when the wheel is mounted on the hub and the spinner is =
tightened, the outer cone on the balancer fits through it and registers =
on the hub.  That part is a little tricky as if you machine the hole too =
big, the spinner will end up in two pieces =E2=80=93 measure carefully!  =
Hub and spinner was $25 at a swap meet and machining was $50.  I believe =
this adaptor will work on any post-war wire wheels except the Jags, =
which had different hubs.  Worked a treat on my TC wheels.  Healey is =
running vibration-free- so leaving it alone for now.
>>> =20
>>> I too liked on-wheel balancing and in my simple thinking it balanced =
the drum or disk at the same time =E2=80=93 as long as you remembered to =
mark the position of the wheels when you took them off and did not =
rotate them (to a different position on the car)!  That is likely one =
reason  they are not used anymore, because if your drums were out of =
balance and you added weights to the wheel that balanced them out, then =
every time you removed the wheel, you=E2=80=99d loose the balance, =
unless it went back in exactly the same position.   Anyhow it=E2=80=99s =
a moot point as I have not seen an on-wheel balancer for decades.   I =
imagine that disks run very true anyhow, but when I balanced the drums =
on the TC  they were significantly off.  I hear balancing Healey drums =
brings good results, but never felt the need as my BT7 has always run =
pretty smooth.  If anyone in Ontario (Canada) wants drums balanced, =
Garland and Sons in Scarborough did great work for me.
>>> =20
>>> Mirek
>>> =20
>>> From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net =
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2023 11:35 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Wire Wheel Balancer
>>> =20
>>> It looks like the kit is designed to follow the Dunlop/MWS =
recommendations for balancing. See attached. It should be a good piece =
of kit.
>>> =20
>>> Harold
>>> =20
>>> On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 8:28=E2=80=AFAM HealeyRick via Healeys =
>>> AH Spares just sent out this email about a wire wheel balancer kit =
to mount the wheels on a modern balancing machine.  What are your =
thoughts?  =
https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-healey/big-healey/wheels/wire-wheel-bala=
ncing-kit.aspx?utm_medium=3Demail-1st&utm_source=3Dnewsletter&utm_medium=3D=
email
>>> =20
>>> Rick Neville aka "HealeyRick"
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">Use an angle =
grinder with a cut off wheel<div><br></div><div><br><div>
<div>Richard =
Mayor</div><div>boyracer466@gmail.com</div><div><br></div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline">

</div>
<div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On May 17, 2023, at 7:55 PM, =
Michael Salter via Healeys &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div><meta =
charset=3D"UTF-8"><div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none;">With all this noise about balancing brake drums =
I thought I had better take a look at the ones on my BN2.&nbsp;<div =
dir=3D"auto">I'm in the process if machining them back to&nbsp; balance =
now.&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"auto">Bit of a task on my 12" lathe but it's =
happening.</div></div><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none;"><div class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"caret-color: =
rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: =
normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: =
normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; =
white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none;"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed., =
May 17, 2023, 8:46 p.m. Michael MacLean via Healeys, &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0px =
0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; =
border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div =
dir=3D"auto">Don't grind it. Have it machined off.<div dir=3D"auto">Mike =
MacLean</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, May 17, 2023, 6:58 AM Richard Kahn &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:tahoehealey@hotmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" =
rel=3D"noreferrer">tahoehealey@hotmail.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0px =
0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; =
border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div =
dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; =
font-size: 12pt;">Hendrix welded more material to my drums as needed and =
it seems to have worked fine. I would not like grinding off material as =
it might affect the integrity of the drum by making it thinner, =
effecting the heat distribution and strength.&nbsp; Just some rambling =
from someone who doesn't know what he is talking about.</div><div =
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style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: =
12pt;"><br></div><hr style=3D"display: inline-block; width: =
612.921875px;"><div =
id=3D"m_-8776418827343960111m_-309449344821178973divRplyFwdMsg" =
dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" style=3D"font-size: =
11pt;"><b>From:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Healeys &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer =
noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; on =
behalf of<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:alfuller194@gmail.com"; rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" =
target=3D"_blank">alfuller194@gmail.com</a>&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:alfuller194@gmail.com"; rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" =
target=3D"_blank">alfuller194@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br><b>Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Wednesday, May 17, 2023 =
12:23 AM<br><b>To:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>'Michael MacLean' &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:springer.mike51@gmail.com"; rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" =
target=3D"_blank">springer.mike51@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>'Healey List' &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" =
target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [Healeys] Brake Drum =
balance -- was Wire Wheel Balancer</font><div>&nbsp;</div></div><div =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;">Mike =E2=80=93 I would think that would be the likely =
explanation for having sections of the drum rim machined off.</div><p =
style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;">&nbsp;</p><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">----------------</div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;">All the best,</div><p style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</p><div style=3D"margin: =
0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Al =
Fuller</div><p style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</p><div style=3D"border-width: 1pt medium =
medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(225, 225, 225) =
currentcolor currentcolor; border-image: none; padding: 3pt 0in =
0in;"><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;"><b>From:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Michael MacLean &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:springer.mike51@gmail.com"; rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" =
target=3D"_blank">springer.mike51@gmail.com</a>&gt;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br><b>Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Tuesday, May 16, 2023 2:47 =
PM<br><b>To:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:alfuller194@gmail.com"; rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" =
target=3D"_blank">alfuller194@gmail.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [Healeys] Brake Drum =
balance -- was Wire Wheel Balancer</div></div><p style=3D"margin: 0in; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</p><div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;">Al, list,&nbsp;</div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">&nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp;The drums for my BN2 has sections of the raised rim machined off. =
Does this mean my drums were balanced in the past?</div></div><div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;">Mike MacLean</div></div></div><p style=3D"margin: 0in; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;">&nbsp;</p><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">On Tue, May 16, 2023, 2:30 PM =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:alfuller194@gmail.com"; rel=3D"noreferrer =
noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">alfuller194@gmail.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div></div><blockquote style=3D"border-width: medium medium =
medium 1pt; border-style: none none none solid; border-color: =
currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor rgb(204, 204, 204); border-image: =
none; padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: =
0in;"><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;">Bob:&nbsp; If you are wondering about brake drum =
balancing methods, you may be interested in the two methods used on my =
Healeys.</div><p style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</p><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">One shop trimmed off the fins =
as needed to balance the drums, one needing more trimming than the other =
=E2=80=93 but they both came out well.</div><p style=3D"margin: 0in; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</p><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;">A different shop welded rod material onto my current =
BJ-8=E2=80=99s drums to balance them. I think these drums were more out =
of balance than on prior cars. They were careful to call me ahead of the =
operation to ask how much clearance I had between the wheel and drum, =
and I was able to take them a wheel and hub so they could see how it all =
fit together.&nbsp; The results are just fine, also.</div><div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;">----------------</div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">All the best,</div><p =
style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;">&nbsp;</p><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Al Fuller</div></div><p =
style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;">&nbsp;</p><div><div style=3D"border-width: 1pt medium =
medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(225, 225, 225) =
currentcolor currentcolor; border-image: none; padding: 3pt 0in =
0in;"><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;"><b>From:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Healeys &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer =
noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><b>On Behalf Of<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b>Bob Haskell via =
Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Monday, May 15, 2023 2:36 =
PM<br><b>To:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Harold =
Manifold &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:manifold@telus.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer =
noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">manifold@telus.net</a>&gt;; Healey List =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer =
noreferrer" =
target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [Healeys] Wire Wheel =
Balancer</div></div></div><p style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</p><p>Harold,</p><p>How did =
you balance the drums - add or remove material? Care to provide any =
details?</p><pre style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: =
&quot;Courier New&quot;;">Bob Haskell</pre><pre style=3D"margin: 0in; =
font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;">Austin-Healey =
3000 roadster registrar</pre><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">On 5/15/23 11:32, Harold =
Manifold wrote:</div></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; =
margin-bottom: 5pt;"><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Another consideration for balancing =
the rear tires is the brake drums. I have the original BMC brake drums =
and was surprised at how out of balance they were. I static balanced the =
brake drums to go with the separately&nbsp;balanced wheels and tires. No =
vibrations, shimmies or skuttle shakes so far.<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></div><div><p =
style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;">&nbsp;</p></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Harold</div></div></div><p =
style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;">&nbsp;</p><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">On Mon, May 15, 2023 at =
12:34=E2=80=AFAM &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:greylinn@ozemail.com.au"; =
rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" =
target=3D"_blank">greylinn@ozemail.com.au</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div></div><blockquote style=3D"border-width: medium medium =
medium 1pt; border-style: none none none solid; border-color: =
currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor rgb(204, 204, 204); border-image: =
none; padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin: 5pt 0in 5pt =
4.8pt;"><div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Here in Brisbane =
there=E2=80=99s at least one place (near me) that does on-car balancing. =
The wheels on my 100 don=E2=80=99t have a central hole, so can=E2=80=99t =
be balanced on a regular machine. That said, the last set of Khumo =
Ecowing ES31s I bought are fine with no balancing!</span></div><p =
style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">&nbsp;</span></p><div style=3D"margin: =
0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span =
lang=3D"EN-AU">Peter Linn</span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span =
lang=3D"EN-AU">Brisbane</span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span =
lang=3D"EN-AU">BN1 Holden V6</span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span =
lang=3D"EN-AU">MG TC special</span></div><p style=3D"margin: 0in; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span =
lang=3D"EN-AU">&nbsp;</span></p><div><div style=3D"border-width: 1pt =
medium medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(225, =
225, 225) currentcolor currentcolor; border-image: none; padding: 3pt =
0in 0in;"><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;"><b>From:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Healeys &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer =
noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><b>On Behalf Of<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b>m.g.sharp--- via =
Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Monday, May 15, 2023 1:07 =
PM<br><b>To:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>'Harold=
 Manifold' &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:manifold@telus.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer =
noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">manifold@telus.net</a>&gt;; 'HealeyRick' =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeyrik@gmail.com"; rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" =
target=3D"_blank">healeyrik@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>'Healeys' &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" =
target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [Healeys] Wire Wheel =
Balancer</div></div></div><p style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span =
lang=3D"EN-AU">&nbsp;</span></p><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">I made up =
my own adaptor using a used hub and knock-off (spinner).&nbsp; I had a =
machinist mount the hub on the lathe and ensure that it was true on the =
inside edges (where the bearings fit) and had him put a slight chamfer =
on the edges to provide better registration for the standard cones on a =
modern balancer.&nbsp; Then we machined the centre out of the spinner =
so&nbsp; that when the wheel is mounted on the hub and the spinner is =
tightened, the outer cone on the balancer fits through it and registers =
on the hub.&nbsp; That part is a little tricky as if you machine the =
hole too big, the spinner will end up in two pieces =E2=80=93 measure =
carefully!&nbsp; Hub and spinner was $25 at a swap meet and machining =
was $50.&nbsp; I believe this adaptor will work on any post-war wire =
wheels except the Jags, which had different hubs.&nbsp; Worked a treat =
on my TC wheels.&nbsp; Healey is running vibration-free- so leaving it =
alone for now.</span></div><p style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span =
lang=3D"EN-CA">&nbsp;</span></p><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">I too =
liked on-wheel balancing and in my simple thinking it balanced the drum =
or disk at the same time =E2=80=93 as long as you remembered to mark the =
position of the wheels when you took them off and did not rotate them =
(to a different position on the car)!&nbsp; That is likely one reason =
&nbsp;they are not used anymore, because if your drums were out of =
balance and you added weights to the wheel that balanced them out, then =
every time you removed the wheel, you=E2=80=99d loose the balance, =
unless it went back in exactly the same position. &nbsp;&nbsp;Anyhow =
it=E2=80=99s a moot point as I have not seen an on-wheel balancer for =
decades. &nbsp;&nbsp;I imagine that disks run very true anyhow, but when =
I balanced the drums on the TC&nbsp; they were significantly off.&nbsp; =
I hear balancing Healey drums brings good results, but never felt the =
need as my BT7 has always run pretty smooth.&nbsp; If anyone in Ontario =
(Canada) wants drums balanced, Garland and Sons in Scarborough did great =
work for me.</span></div><p style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span =
lang=3D"EN-CA">&nbsp;</span></p><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span =
lang=3D"EN-CA">Mirek</span></div><p style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span =
lang=3D"EN-CA">&nbsp;</span></p><div style=3D"border-width: 1pt medium =
medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(225, 225, 225) =
currentcolor currentcolor; border-image: none; padding: 3pt 0in =
0in;"><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;"><b>From:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Healeys &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer =
noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><b>On Behalf Of<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b>Harold =
Manifold<br><b>Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Thursday, May 11, 2023 =
11:35 AM<br><b>To:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>HealeyRick &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeyrik@gmail.com"; rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" =
target=3D"_blank">healeyrik@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Healeys &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" =
target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [Healeys] Wire Wheel =
Balancer</div></div><p style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span =
lang=3D"EN-CA">&nbsp;</span></p><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span =
lang=3D"EN-CA">It looks like the kit is designed to follow&nbsp;the =
Dunlop/MWS recommendations for balancing. See attached. It should be a =
good piece of kit.</span></div><div><p style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span =
lang=3D"EN-CA">&nbsp;</span></p></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span =
lang=3D"EN-CA">Harold</span></div></div></div><p style=3D"margin: 0in; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span =
lang=3D"EN-CA">&nbsp;</span></p><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span =
lang=3D"EN-CA">On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 8:28=E2=80=AFAM HealeyRick via =
Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer =
noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:</span></div></div><blockquote style=3D"border-width: medium =
medium medium 1pt; border-style: none none none solid; border-color: =
currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor rgb(204, 204, 204); border-image: =
none; padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin: 5pt 0in 5pt 4.8pt;"><div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">AH Spares just sent out this email =
about a wire wheel balancer kit to mount the wheels on a modern =
balancing machine.&nbsp; What are your thoughts?&nbsp;&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-healey/big-healey/wheels/wire-wh=
eel-balancing-kit.aspx?utm_medium=3Demail-1st&amp;utm_source=3Dnewsletter&=
amp;utm_medium=3Demail" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" =
target=3D"_blank">https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-healey/big-healey/whee=
ls/wire-wheel-balancing-kit.aspx?utm_medium=3Demail-1st&amp;utm_source=3Dn=
ewsletter&amp;utm_medium=3Demail</a></span></div><div><p style=3D"margin: =
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lang=3D"EN-CA">&nbsp;</span></p></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span =
lang=3D"EN-CA">Rick Neville aka "HealeyRick"</span></div></div></div><p =
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