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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Listers <div>If you look at the drums y=
ou will see areas that were ground off to balance the drums. <div>I hav=
e given away all my spare parts so I do not have a good example to photograp=
h. </div><div>Perry</div><div><br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPh=
one</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On May 19, 2023, at 2=
:19 AM, josef-eckert--- via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:<br=
><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF=
<meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3DUTF-8"><ti=
tle></title><p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helve=
tica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">Good ques=
tion Bob! I doubt they have done it and the cars were running anyway.<br></s=
pan></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-se=
rif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">Thanks,</span></p>
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rif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">Josef</span></p>
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rif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none"> </span></p>
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<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">-----Original-Nachricht-----</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Brake Drum balance -- was W=
ire Wheel Balancer</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">Datum: 2023-05-19T07:56:40+0200</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">Von: "Robert Parker via Healeys" <healeys@autox=
.team.net></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">An: "Michael Salter" <michaelsalter@gmail.com&g=
t;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"> </p>
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<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"> </p>
<div style=3D"position: relative; color: #000000; font: 12px Arial,Helvetica=
,sans-serif;">Has anyone bothered to check whether the factory ever balanced=
the drums or even worried about it? It=E2=80=99s not that I don=E2=80=99t c=
are, it=E2=80=99s just I=E2=80=99d like to know if anyone has heard of that h=
appening at the factory. Bob, 61BT7.<br><br>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
<blockquote>On May 17, 2023, at 8:32 PM, Michael Salter via Healeys <heal=
eys@autox.team.net> wrote:<br><br></blockquote>
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<div dir=3D"auto">With all this noise about balancing brake drums I thought I=
had better take a look at the ones on my BN2.
<div dir=3D"auto">I'm in the process if machining them back to balance=
now. </div>
<div dir=3D"auto">Bit of a task on my 12" lathe but it's happening.</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div class=3D"gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Wed., May 17, 2023, 8:46 p.m. Micha=
el MacLean via Healeys, <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healey=
s@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:</div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0 0 0 .8ex; border-left: 1=
px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div dir=3D"auto">Don't grind it. Have it machined off.
<div dir=3D"auto">Mike MacLean</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div class=3D"gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, May 17, 2023, 6:58 AM Richard K=
ahn <<a href=3D"mailto:tahoehealey@hotmail.com"; rel=3D"noreferrer">tahoeh=
ealey@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:</div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0 0 0 .8ex; border-left: 1=
px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; co=
lor: #000000;">Hendrix welded more material to my drums as needed and it see=
ms to have worked fine. I would not like grinding off material as it might a=
ffect the integrity of the drum by making it thinner, effecting the heat dis=
tribution and strength. Just some rambling from someone who doesn't kn=
ow what he is talking about.</div>
<div> </div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; co=
lor: #000000;"> </div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; color: #000000; font-family=
: Calibri, sans-serif;"><strong>From:</strong> Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto=
:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer">healeys-bounc=
es@autox.team.net</a>> on behalf of <a href=3D"mailto:alfuller194@gmail.c=
om" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer">alfuller194@gmail.com</a> <<a href=3D"m=
ailto:alfuller194@gmail.com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer">alfuller194@gmail=
.com</a>><br><strong>Sent:</strong> Wednesday, May 17, 2023 12:23 AM<br><=
strong>To:</strong> 'Michael MacLean' <<a href=3D"mailto:springer.mike51@=
gmail.com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer">springer.mike51@gmail.com</a>><b=
r><strong>Cc:</strong> 'Healey List' <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.tea=
m.net" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br><stro=
ng>Subject:</strong> Re: [Healeys] Brake Drum balance -- was Wire Wheel Bala=
ncer</span>
<div> </div>
</div>
<div lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"word-wrap: break-word;">
<div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
>Mike =E2=80=93 I would think that would be the likely explanation for havin=
g sections of the drum rim machined off.</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
> </p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
>----------------</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
>All the best,</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
> </p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
>Al Fuller</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
> </p>
<div style=3D"border: none; border-top: solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt; padding: 3.0pt 0=
in 0in 0in;">
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
><strong>From:</strong> Michael MacLean <<a href=3D"mailto:springer.mike5=
1@gmail.com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer">springer.mike51@gmail.com</a>>=
<br><strong>Sent:</strong> Tuesday, May 16, 2023 2:47 PM<br><strong>To:</st=
rong> <a href=3D"mailto:alfuller194@gmail.com"; rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer"=
>alfuller194@gmail.com</a><br><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [Healeys] Brake D=
rum balance -- was Wire Wheel Balancer</p>
</div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
> </p>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
>Al, list, </p>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
> The drums for my BN2 has sections of the raised rim mac=
hined off. Does this mean my drums were balanced in the past?</p>
</div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
>Mike MacLean</p>
</div>
</div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
> </p>
<div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
>On Tue, May 16, 2023, 2:30 PM <<a href=3D"mailto:alfuller194@gmail.com"; r=
el=3D"noreferrer noreferrer">alfuller194@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border: none; border-left: solid #cccccc 1.0pt; padding=
: 0in 0in 0in 6.0pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0in;">
<div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
>Bob: If you are wondering about brake drum balancing methods, you may=
be interested in the two methods used on my Healeys.</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
> </p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
>One shop trimmed off the fins as needed to balance the drums, one needing m=
ore trimming than the other =E2=80=93 but they both came out well.</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
> </p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
>A different shop welded rod material onto my current BJ-8=E2=80=99s drums t=
o balance them. I think these drums were more out of balance than on prior c=
ars. They were careful to call me ahead of the operation to ask how much cle=
arance I had between the wheel and drum, and I was able to take them a wheel=
and hub so they could see how it all fit together. The results are ju=
st fine, also.</p>
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<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
>----------------</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
>All the best,</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
> </p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
>Al Fuller</p>
</div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
> </p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border: none; border-top: solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt; padding: 3.0pt 0=
in 0in 0in;">
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
><strong>From:</strong> Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.=
team.net" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&g=
t; <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>Bob Haskell via Healeys<br><strong>Sent:</s=
trong> Monday, May 15, 2023 2:36 PM<br><strong>To:</strong> Harold Manifold &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:manifold@telus.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer">manif=
old@telus.net</a>>; Healey List <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.=
net" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br><strong=
>Subject:</strong> Re: [Healeys] Wire Wheel Balancer</p>
</div>
</div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
> </p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">Harold,</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">How did you balance the drums - add or remove mate=
rial? Care to provide any details?</p>
<pre style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;">Bob Has=
kell</pre>
<pre style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;">Austin-=
Healey 3000 roadster registrar</pre>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
>On 5/15/23 11:32, Harold Manifold wrote:</p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5.0pt; margin-bottom: 5.0pt;">
<div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
>Another consideration for balancing the rear tires is the brake drums. I ha=
ve the original BMC brake drums and was surprised at how out of balance they=
were. I static balanced the brake drums to go with the separately bala=
nced wheels and tires. No vibrations, shimmies or skuttle shakes so far.</p>=
<div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
>Harold</p>
</div>
</div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
> </p>
<div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
>On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 12:34=E2=80=AFAM <<a href=3D"mailto:greylinn@oze=
mail.com.au" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer">greylinn@ozemail.com.au</a>> w=
rote:</p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border: none; border-left: solid #cccccc 1.0pt; padding=
: 0in 0in 0in 6.0pt; margin: 5.0pt 0in 5.0pt 4.8pt;">
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Here in Brisbane there=E2=80=99s at least one place (n=
ear me) that does on-car balancing. The wheels on my 100 don=E2=80=99t have a=
central hole, so can=E2=80=99t be balanced on a regular machine. That said,=
the last set of Khumo Ecowing ES31s I bought are fine with no balancing!</s=
pan></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
><span lang=3D"EN-AU"> </span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Peter Linn</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Brisbane</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
><span lang=3D"EN-AU">BN1 Holden V6</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
><span lang=3D"EN-AU">MG TC special</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
><span lang=3D"EN-AU"> </span></p>
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<div style=3D"border: none; border-top: solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt; padding: 3.0pt 0=
in 0in 0in;">
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
><strong>From:</strong> Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.=
team.net" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&g=
t; <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>m.g.sharp--- via Healeys<br><strong>Sent:</=
strong> Monday, May 15, 2023 1:07 PM<br><strong>To:</strong> 'Harold Manifol=
d' <<a href=3D"mailto:manifold@telus.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer">m=
anifold@telus.net</a>>; 'HealeyRick' <<a href=3D"mailto:healeyrik@gmai=
l.com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer">healeyrik@gmail.com</a>><br><strong>=
Cc:</strong> 'Healeys' <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"=
noreferrer noreferrer">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br><strong>Subject:</s=
trong> Re: [Healeys] Wire Wheel Balancer</p>
</div>
</div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
><span lang=3D"EN-AU"> </span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
><span lang=3D"EN-CA">I made up my own adaptor using a used hub and knock-of=
f (spinner). I had a machinist mount the hub on the lathe and ensure t=
hat it was true on the inside edges (where the bearings fit) and had him put=
a slight chamfer on the edges to provide better registration for the standa=
rd cones on a modern balancer. Then we machined the centre out of the s=
pinner so that when the wheel is mounted on the hub and the spinner is=
tightened, the outer cone on the balancer fits through it and registers on t=
he hub. That part is a little tricky as if you machine the hole too bi=
g, the spinner will end up in two pieces =E2=80=93 measure carefully! H=
ub and spinner was $25 at a swap meet and machining was $50. I believe=
this adaptor will work on any post-war wire wheels except the Jags, which h=
ad different hubs. Worked a treat on my TC wheels. Healey is run=
ning vibration-free- so leaving it alone for now.</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
><span lang=3D"EN-CA"> </span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
><span lang=3D"EN-CA">I too liked on-wheel balancing and in my simple thinki=
ng it balanced the drum or disk at the same time =E2=80=93 as long as you re=
membered to mark the position of the wheels when you took them off and did n=
ot rotate them (to a different position on the car)! That is likely on=
e reason they are not used anymore, because if your drums were out of b=
alance and you added weights to the wheel that balanced them out, then every=
time you removed the wheel, you=E2=80=99d loose the balance, unless it went=
back in exactly the same position. Anyhow it=E2=80=99s a moot p=
oint as I have not seen an on-wheel balancer for decades. I imag=
ine that disks run very true anyhow, but when I balanced the drums on the TC=
they were significantly off. I hear balancing Healey drums brin=
gs good results, but never felt the need as my BT7 has always run pretty smo=
oth. If anyone in Ontario (Canada) wants drums balanced, Garland and S=
ons in Scarborough did great work for me.</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
><span lang=3D"EN-CA"> </span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
><span lang=3D"EN-CA">Mirek</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
><span lang=3D"EN-CA"> </span></p>
<div style=3D"border: none; border-top: solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt; padding: 3.0pt 0=
in 0in 0in;">
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
><strong>From:</strong> Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.=
team.net" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&g=
t; <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>Harold Manifold<br><strong>Sent:</strong> T=
hursday, May 11, 2023 11:35 AM<br><strong>To:</strong> HealeyRick <<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:healeyrik@gmail.com"; rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer">healeyrik@gma=
il.com</a>><br><strong>Cc:</strong> Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys=
@autox.team.net" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer">healeys@autox.team.net</a>>=
;<br><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [Healeys] Wire Wheel Balancer</p>
</div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
><span lang=3D"EN-CA"> </span></p>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
><span lang=3D"EN-CA">It looks like the kit is designed to follow the D=
unlop/MWS recommendations for balancing. See attached. It should be a good p=
iece of kit.</span></p>
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<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
><span lang=3D"EN-CA"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
><span lang=3D"EN-CA">Harold</span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
><span lang=3D"EN-CA"> </span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
><span lang=3D"EN-CA">On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 8:28=E2=80=AFAM HealeyRick via=
Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer nor=
eferrer">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:</span></p>
</div>
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: 0in 0in 0in 6.0pt; margin: 5.0pt 0in 5.0pt 4.8pt;">
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<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
><span lang=3D"EN-CA">AH Spares just sent out this email about a wire wheel b=
alancer kit to mount the wheels on a modern balancing machine. What ar=
e your thoughts? <a href=3D"https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-hea=
ley/big-healey/wheels/wire-wheel-balancing-kit.aspx?utm_medium=3Demail-1st&a=
mp;utm_source=3Dnewsletter&utm_medium=3Demail" rel=3D"noreferrer norefer=
rer">https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-healey/big-healey/wheels/wire-wheel-b=
alancing-kit.aspx?utm_medium=3Demail-1st&utm_source=3Dnewsletter&utm=
_medium=3Demail</a></span></p>
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<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
><span lang=3D"EN-CA"> </span></p>
</div>
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<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
><span lang=3D"EN-CA">Rick Neville aka "HealeyRick"</span></p>
</div>
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