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We probably have to face reality. Neither of my Japanese cars use any oil
at all between their 10000 km oil changes although they both do have dip
sticks. Ah sigh.
M
On Mon., Apr. 18, 2022, 6:15 p.m. m.g.sharp--- via Healeys, <
healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
> Funnily, in a sick kinda way, this movie about the last car on earth was
> set in 2011, the year my BMW was made:
>
>
>
>
> https://www.imdb.com/video/vi2453586713?playlistId=3Dtt0082642&ref_=3Dtt_=
pr_ov_vi
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *John
> Vrugtman via Healeys
> *Sent:* April 18, 2022 6:04 PM
> *To:* healeys@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Oil loss
>
>
>
> It will eventually end up with driverless electric cars that we just tell
> where to take us, leave it at our destination and just pick another one f=
or
> the ride back. All older driver required cars being deemed illegal.
>
> John (won't be there for that)
> 66/64 BJ8s
>
> On 4/18/2022 5:41 PM, m.g.sharp--- via Healeys wrote:
>
> My 2011 BMW is also dipstickless. I think some bean-counter or HR autono=
m
> told management to get rid of the dipsticks, meaning the marketing people=
,
> but the message ended up being sent to the engineering department.
>
>
>
> I sometimes reflect that the manual for my bimmer is about 300 pages of
> generally unhelpful information and when I once had to add brake fluid
> could not even tell me where the reservoir was located, telling me to see
> the dealer (like hell, the interweb directed me to remove a plastic cover
> near the wiper linkage and I did this mystifying and most complicated tas=
k
> myself), yet the 100 page Instruction Manual for my =E2=80=9948 M.G.TC ex=
plains
> how to R&R the head, engine, gearbox, do a de-coke, and even how to adjus=
t
> the back-lash on the differential crown-wheel and pinion.
>
>
>
> I remember when BMW=E2=80=99s motto was =E2=80=9CA Driver=E2=80=99s Car=
=E2=80=9D. Now it must be
> something like =E2=80=9CA car to look good in at the golf club in=E2=80=
=9D or something
> similar. They certainly lost their path in my opinion.
>
>
>
> Mirek
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net>
> <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Jim Ryan via Healeys
> *Sent:* April 17, 2022 4:01 PM
> *To:* Fred Wescoe <fredwescoe@gmail.com> <fredwescoe@gmail.com>
> *Cc:* Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net> <healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Oil loss
>
>
>
> Yeah, I went to check the oil in my wife's 2015 BMW, no dipstick. I talk
> into a mechanic I know and he told me they don't have them anymore. Later
> on I bought a 2015 Mini Cooper s, again, no dipstick. The way you check t=
he
> oil on this one is you have to be on a perfectly flat surface with the ca=
rd
> operating temperature and running, then you step through the menu and
> there's something on there about checking the oil it takes one or two
> minutes and comes back and tells you how full it is. Personally, I think
> the whole thing defies logic, the dipstick was easier. Plus, in a pinch,
> you always had something to stick the marshmallows on at the fire pit.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 17, 2022, 8:34 AM Fred Wescoe <fredwescoe@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I had a very interesting incident with my Audi A6 turbo.
>
>
>
> I started the car a few mornings ago and after about 5 minutes, the
> dashboard screen popped up a message saying "Caution reduce your oil
> level. Contact your dealer." I was somewhat surprised at the message,
> thinking someone snuck into my garage overnight and added oil to the
> engine. So, I decided to check the oil level. After lifting the hood, I
> could not find the dipstick for the oil or for the transmission. I calle=
d
> the dealer who told me to drive the car very slowly to the dealership. A=
t
> the dealership, the car was examined (electronically I suppose) and I was
> told everything was fine. I was informed that the radar sensors in the
> front grill sometimes get too wet and could cause false oil messages.
>
>
>
> I was told that my car does not have oil and transmission dipsticks. It
> seems that the computers read everything and flash messages when
> something is wrong.
>
>
>
> So, check the moisture content of the radar sensors in the front grill of
> your Healey if your car gives you an oil level message.
>
>
>
> I'm just mentioning,
>
>
>
> Fred
>
> 66 BJ8
>
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 16, 2022 at 3:32 PM Bob Spidell via Healeys <
> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Lest we bemoan, too much, a little drip from our bell housings:
>
>
> https://jalopnik.com/hyundai-owners-file-class-action-over-excessive-engi=
ne-1848797045
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<div dir=3D"auto">We probably have to face reality. Neither of my Japanese =
cars use any oil at all between their 10000 km oil changes although they bo=
th do have dip sticks. Ah sigh.<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto=
">M</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gma=
il_attr">On Mon., Apr. 18, 2022, 6:15 p.m. m.g.sharp--- via Healeys, <<a=
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a>> wrot=
e:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bo=
rder-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-CA" link=3D"blue=
" vlink=3D"purple" style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><div class=3D"m_-91583695=
16428529027WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Funnily, in a sick ki=
nda way, this movie about the last car on earth was set in 2011, the year m=
y BMW was made:<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u=
>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><a href=3D"https://ww=
w.imdb.com/video/vi2453586713?playlistId=3Dtt0082642&ref_=3Dtt_pr_ov_vi=
" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">https://www.imdb.com/video/vi2453586=
713?playlistId=3Dtt0082642&ref_=3Dtt_pr_ov_vi</a><u></u><u></u></span><=
/p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><spa=
n><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><div><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:=
solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><s=
pan lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"> Healeys <<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"norefe=
rrer">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>John Vrugt=
man via Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> April 18, 2022 6:04 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a hre=
f=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">he=
aleys@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Oil loss<u></u><u=
></u></span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">It will eventually en=
d up with driverless electric cars that we just tell where to take us, leav=
e it at our destination and just pick another one for the ride back.=C2=A0 =
All older driver required cars being deemed illegal.<br><br>John=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0 (won't be there for that)<br>66/64 BJ8s <u></u><u></u></p><di=
v><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On 4/18/2022 5:41 PM, m.g.sharp--- via Healeys wro=
te:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bot=
tom:5.0pt"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>My 2011 BMW is also dipstickless.=
=C2=A0 I think some bean-counter or HR autonom told management to get rid o=
f the dipsticks, meaning the marketing people, but the message ended up bei=
ng sent to the engineering department.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><span>=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><spa=
n>I sometimes reflect that the manual for my bimmer is about 300 pages of g=
enerally unhelpful information and when I once had to add brake fluid could=
not even tell me where the reservoir was located, telling me to see the de=
aler (like hell, the interweb directed me to remove a plastic cover near th=
e wiper linkage and I did this mystifying and most complicated task myself)=
, yet the 100 page Instruction Manual for my =E2=80=9948 <a href=3D"http://=
M.G.TC" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">M.G.TC</a> explains how to R&a=
mp;R the head, engine, gearbox, do a de-coke, and even how to adjust the ba=
ck-lash on the differential crown-wheel and pinion.</span><u></u><u></u></p=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal"><span>I remember when BMW=E2=80=99s motto was =E2=80=9CA Driver=E2=
=80=99s Car=E2=80=9D.=C2=A0 Now it must be something like =E2=80=9CA car to=
look good in at the golf club in=E2=80=9D or something similar. They certa=
inly lost their path in my opinion.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><span>=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>M=
irek</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>=C2=A0</span><u><=
/u><u></u></p><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padd=
ing:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:=
</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"> Healeys <a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@=
autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer"><healeys-bounces@au=
tox.team.net></a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jim Ryan via Healeys<br><b>Sent:</=
b> April 17, 2022 4:01 PM<br><b>To:</b> Fred Wescoe <a href=3D"mailto:fredw=
escoe@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer"><fredwescoe@gmail.=
com></a><br><b>Cc:</b> Healeys <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"=
target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer"><healeys@autox.team.net></a><br=
><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Oil loss</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Yeah,=
I went to check the oil in my wife's 2015 BMW, no dipstick. I talk int=
o a mechanic I know and he told me they don't have them anymore. Later =
on I bought a 2015 Mini Cooper s, again, no dipstick. The way you check the=
oil on this one is you have to be on a perfectly flat surface with the car=
d operating temperature and running, then you step through the menu and the=
re's something on there about checking the oil it takes one or two minu=
tes and comes back and tells you how full it is. Personally, I think the wh=
ole thing defies logic, the dipstick was easier. Plus, in a pinch, you alwa=
ys had something to stick the marshmallows on at the fire pit.<u></u><u></u=
></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><div><div><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal">On Sun, Apr 17, 2022, 8:34 AM Fred Wescoe <<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:fredwescoe@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">fredwescoe@=
gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"border=
:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left=
:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">I had a very interesting incident=C2=A0with my Audi A6 turbo=
.=C2=A0 =C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u=
></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I started the car a few mornings=
ago and after about=C2=A05 minutes, the dashboard=C2=A0screen popped=C2=A0=
up a message saying "Caution reduce=C2=A0your oil level.=C2=A0 Contact=
your dealer."=C2=A0 =C2=A0I was somewhat surprised at the message, th=
inking someone snuck into my garage overnight and added oil to the engine.=
=C2=A0 So, I decided to check the oil level.=C2=A0 After lifting the hood, =
I could not find the dipstick=C2=A0for the oil or for the transmission.=C2=
=A0 I called the dealer who told me to drive the car very slowly to the dea=
lership.=C2=A0 At the dealership, the car was examined (electronically I su=
ppose) and I was told everything=C2=A0was fine.=C2=A0 I was informed that t=
he radar sensors=C2=A0in the front grill sometimes=C2=A0get too wet and cou=
ld cause false oil messages.=C2=A0=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
I was told that my car does not=C2=A0have oil and transmission=C2=A0dipstic=
ks.=C2=A0 It seems that the computers read everything and flash messages wh=
en something=C2=A0is wrong.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">So, check the=
moisture content of the radar sensors in the front grill of your Healey if=
your car gives you an oil level message.=C2=A0=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></di=
v><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">I'm just mentioning,<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">F=
red<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">66 BJ8<u></u><u></u>=
</p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><div><div><p=
class=3D"MsoNormal">On Sat, Apr 16, 2022 at 3:32 PM Bob Spidell via Healey=
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