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To: "'John Vrugtman'" <javrugtman@htcnet.org>, <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil loss
From: "m.g.sharp--- via Healeys" <healeys@autox.team.net>
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Funnily, in a sick kinda way, this movie about the last car on earth was =
set in 2011, the year my BMW was made:

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From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of John =
Vrugtman via Healeys
Sent: April 18, 2022 6:04 PM
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil loss

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It will eventually end up with driverless electric cars that we just =
tell where to take us, leave it at our destination and just pick another =
one for the ride back.  All older driver required cars being deemed =
illegal.

John    (won't be there for that)
66/64 BJ8s=20

On 4/18/2022 5:41 PM, m.g.sharp--- via Healeys wrote:

My 2011 BMW is also dipstickless.  I think some bean-counter or HR =
autonom told management to get rid of the dipsticks, meaning the =
marketing people, but the message ended up being sent to the engineering =
department.

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I sometimes reflect that the manual for my bimmer is about 300 pages of =
generally unhelpful information and when I once had to add brake fluid =
could not even tell me where the reservoir was located, telling me to =
see the dealer (like hell, the interweb directed me to remove a plastic =
cover near the wiper linkage and I did this mystifying and most =
complicated task myself), yet the 100 page Instruction Manual for my =
=E2=80=9948 M.G.TC explains how to R&R the head, engine, gearbox, do a =
de-coke, and even how to adjust the back-lash on the differential =
crown-wheel and pinion.

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I remember when BMW=E2=80=99s motto was =E2=80=9CA Driver=E2=80=99s =
Car=E2=80=9D.  Now it must be something like =E2=80=9CA car to look good =
in at the golf club in=E2=80=9D or something similar. They certainly =
lost their path in my opinion.

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Mirek

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<healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Jim Ryan via Healeys
Sent: April 17, 2022 4:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil loss

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Yeah, I went to check the oil in my wife's 2015 BMW, no dipstick. I talk =
into a mechanic I know and he told me they don't have them anymore. =
Later on I bought a 2015 Mini Cooper s, again, no dipstick. The way you =
check the oil on this one is you have to be on a perfectly flat surface =
with the card operating temperature and running, then you step through =
the menu and there's something on there about checking the oil it takes =
one or two minutes and comes back and tells you how full it is. =
Personally, I think the whole thing defies logic, the dipstick was =
easier. Plus, in a pinch, you always had something to stick the =
marshmallows on at the fire pit.

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On Sun, Apr 17, 2022, 8:34 AM Fred Wescoe <fredwescoe@gmail.com =

I had a very interesting incident with my Audi A6 turbo.  =20

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I started the car a few mornings ago and after about 5 minutes, the =
dashboard screen popped up a message saying "Caution reduce your oil =
level.  Contact your dealer."   I was somewhat surprised at the message, =
thinking someone snuck into my garage overnight and added oil to the =
engine.  So, I decided to check the oil level.  After lifting the hood, =
I could not find the dipstick for the oil or for the transmission.  I =
called the dealer who told me to drive the car very slowly to the =
dealership.  At the dealership, the car was examined (electronically I =
suppose) and I was told everything was fine.  I was informed that the =
radar sensors in the front grill sometimes get too wet and could cause =
false oil messages. =20

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I was told that my car does not have oil and transmission dipsticks.  It =
seems that the computers read everything and flash messages when =
something is wrong.

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So, check the moisture content of the radar sensors in the front grill =
of your Healey if your car gives you an oil level message. =20

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I'm just mentioning,

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Fred

66 BJ8

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On Sat, Apr 16, 2022 at 3:32 PM Bob Spidell via Healeys =

Lest we bemoan, too much, a little drip from our bell housings:

https://jalopnik.com/hyundai-owners-file-class-action-over-excessive-engi=
ne-1848797045
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vlink=3Dpurple style=3D'word-wrap:break-word'><div =
class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Funnily, in a sick kinda way, this =
movie about the last car on earth was set in 2011, the year my BMW was =
made:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><a =
href=3D"https://www.imdb.com/video/vi2453586713?playlistId=3Dtt0082642&am=
p;ref_=3Dtt_pr_ov_vi">https://www.imdb.com/video/vi2453586713?playlistId=3D=
tt0082642&amp;ref_=3Dtt_pr_ov_vi</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><di=
v style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
lang=3DEN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US> Healeys =
&lt;healeys-bounces@autox.team.net&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>John Vrugtman =
via Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> April 18, 2022 6:04 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
healeys@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Oil =
loss<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>It will eventually end up with driverless =
electric cars that we just tell where to take us, leave it at our =
destination and just pick another one for the ride back.&nbsp; All older =
driver required cars being deemed illegal.<br><br>John&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
(won't be there for that)<br>66/64 BJ8s <o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On 4/18/2022 5:41 PM, m.g.sharp--- via Healeys =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>My 2011 BMW =
is also dipstickless.&nbsp; I think some bean-counter or HR autonom told =
management to get rid of the dipsticks, meaning the marketing people, =
but the message ended up being sent to the engineering =
department.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I sometimes =
reflect that the manual for my bimmer is about 300 pages of generally =
unhelpful information and when I once had to add brake fluid could not =
even tell me where the reservoir was located, telling me to see the =
dealer (like hell, the interweb directed me to remove a plastic cover =
near the wiper linkage and I did this mystifying and most complicated =
task myself), yet the 100 page Instruction Manual for my =E2=80=9948 =
M.G.TC explains how to R&amp;R the head, engine, gearbox, do a de-coke, =
and even how to adjust the back-lash on the differential crown-wheel and =
pinion.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I remember =
when BMW=E2=80=99s motto was =E2=80=9CA Driver=E2=80=99s =
Car=E2=80=9D.&nbsp; Now it must be something like =E2=80=9CA car to look =
good in at the golf club in=E2=80=9D or something similar. They =
certainly lost their path in my opinion.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Mirek</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
lang=3DEN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US> Healeys <a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";>&lt;healeys-bounces@autox.=
team.net&gt;</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jim Ryan via =
Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> April 17, 2022 4:01 PM<br><b>To:</b> Fred Wescoe =
<a =
href=3D"mailto:fredwescoe@gmail.com";>&lt;fredwescoe@gmail.com&gt;</a><br>=
<b>Cc:</b> Healeys <a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>&lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;</a>=
<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Oil loss</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Yeah, I =
went to check the oil in my wife's 2015 BMW, no dipstick. I talk into a =
mechanic I know and he told me they don't have them anymore. Later on I =
bought a 2015 Mini Cooper s, again, no dipstick. The way you check the =
oil on this one is you have to be on a perfectly flat surface with the =
card operating temperature and running, then you step through the menu =
and there's something on there about checking the oil it takes one or =
two minutes and comes back and tells you how full it is. Personally, I =
think the whole thing defies logic, the dipstick was easier. Plus, in a =
pinch, you always had something to stick the marshmallows on at the fire =
pit.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Sun, Apr 17, 2022, 8:34 AM Fred Wescoe &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:fredwescoe@gmail.com";>fredwescoe@gmail.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5=
.0pt'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I had a very interesting =
incident&nbsp;with my Audi A6 turbo.&nbsp; &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
started the car a few mornings ago and after about&nbsp;5 minutes, the =
dashboard&nbsp;screen popped&nbsp;up a message saying &quot;Caution =
reduce&nbsp;your oil level.&nbsp; Contact your dealer.&quot;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;I was somewhat surprised at the message, thinking someone snuck =
into my garage overnight and added oil to the engine.&nbsp; So, I =
decided to check the oil level.&nbsp; After lifting the hood, I could =
not find the dipstick&nbsp;for the oil or for the transmission.&nbsp; I =
called the dealer who told me to drive the car very slowly to the =
dealership.&nbsp; At the dealership, the car was examined =
(electronically I suppose) and I was told everything&nbsp;was =
fine.&nbsp; I was informed that the radar sensors&nbsp;in the front =
grill sometimes&nbsp;get too wet and could cause false oil =
messages.&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
was told that my car does not&nbsp;have oil and =
transmission&nbsp;dipsticks.&nbsp; It seems that the computers read =
everything and flash messages when something&nbsp;is =
wrong.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>So, check the moisture content of the radar sensors in =
the front grill of your Healey if your car gives you an oil level =
message.&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I'm just mentioning,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Fred<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>66 =
BJ8<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Sat, Apr 16, 2022 at 3:32 PM Bob Spidell via Healeys &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
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6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5=
.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Lest we =
bemoan, too much, a little drip from our bell housings:<br><br><a =
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