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It will eventually end up with driverless electric cars that we just
tell where to take us, leave it at our destination and just pick another
one for the ride back. All older driver required cars being deemed illegal.
John   (won't be there for that)
66/64 BJ8s
On 4/18/2022 5:41 PM, m.g.sharp--- via Healeys wrote:
>
> My 2011 BMW is also dipstickless. I think some bean-counter or HR
> autonom told management to get rid of the dipsticks, meaning the
> marketing people, but the message ended up being sent to the
> engineering department.
>
> I sometimes reflect that the manual for my bimmer is about 300 pages
> of generally unhelpful information and when I once had to add brake
> fluid could not even tell me where the reservoir was located, telling
> me to see the dealer (like hell, the interweb directed me to remove a
> plastic cover near the wiper linkage and I did this mystifying and
> most complicated task myself), yet the 100 page Instruction Manual for
> my â??48 M.G.TC explains how to R&R the head, engine, gearbox, do a
> de-coke, and even how to adjust the back-lash on the differential
> crown-wheel and pinion.
>
> I remember when BMWâ??s motto was â??A Driverâ??s Carâ??. Now it must be
> something like â??A car to look good in at the golf club inâ?? or
> something similar. They certainly lost their path in my opinion.
>
> Mirek
>
> *From:*Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Jim
> Ryan via Healeys
> *Sent:* April 17, 2022 4:01 PM
> *To:* Fred Wescoe <fredwescoe@gmail.com>
> *Cc:* Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Oil loss
>
> Yeah, I went to check the oil in my wife's 2015 BMW, no dipstick. I
> talk into a mechanic I know and he told me they don't have them
> anymore. Later on I bought a 2015 Mini Cooper s, again, no dipstick.
> The way you check the oil on this one is you have to be on a perfectly
> flat surface with the card operating temperature and running, then you
> step through the menu and there's something on there about checking
> the oil it takes one or two minutes and comes back and tells you how
> full it is. Personally, I think the whole thing defies logic, the
> dipstick was easier. Plus, in a pinch, you always had something to
> stick the marshmallows on at the fire pit.
>
> On Sun, Apr 17, 2022, 8:34 AM Fred Wescoe <fredwescoe@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I had a very interesting incident with my Audi A6 turbo.
>
> I started the car a few mornings ago and after about 5 minutes,
> the dashboard screen popped up a message saying "Caution
> reduce your oil level. Contact your dealer."  I was somewhat
> surprised at the message, thinking someone snuck into my garage
> overnight and added oil to the engine. So, I decided to check the
> oil level. After lifting the hood, I could not find the
> dipstick for the oil or for the transmission. I called the dealer
> who told me to drive the car very slowly to the dealership. At
> the dealership, the car was examined (electronically I suppose)
> and I was told everything was fine. I was informed that the radar
> sensors in the front grill sometimes get too wet and could cause
> false oil messages.
>
> I was told that my car does not have oil and
> transmission dipsticks. It seems that the computers read
> everything and flash messages when something is wrong.
>
> So, check the moisture content of the radar sensors in the front
> grill of your Healey if your car gives you an oil level message.
>
> I'm just mentioning,
>
> Fred
>
> 66 BJ8
>
> On Sat, Apr 16, 2022 at 3:32 PM Bob Spidell via Healeys
> <healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Lest we bemoan, too much, a little drip from our bell housings:
>
>
> https://jalopnik.com/hyundai-owners-file-class-action-over-excessive-engine-1848797045
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It will eventually end up with driverless electric cars that we just
tell where to take us, leave it at our destination and just pick
another one for the ride back. All older driver required cars being
deemed illegal.<br>
<br>
John   (won't be there for that)<br>
66/64 BJ8s <br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/18/2022 5:41 PM, m.g.sharp--- via
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">My
2011 BMW is also dipstickless. I think some bean-counter or
HR autonom told management to get rid of the dipsticks,
meaning the marketing people, but the message ended up being
sent to the engineering department.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p>Â </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I
sometimes reflect that the manual for my bimmer is about 300
pages of generally unhelpful information and when I once had
to add brake fluid could not even tell me where the
reservoir was located, telling me to see the dealer (like
hell, the interweb directed me to remove a plastic cover
near the wiper linkage and I did this mystifying and most
complicated task myself), yet the 100 page Instruction
Manual for my â??48 M.G.TC explains how to R&R the head,
engine, gearbox, do a de-coke, and even how to adjust the
back-lash on the differential crown-wheel and
pinion.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p>Â </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I
remember when BMWâ??s motto was â??A Driverâ??s Carâ??. Now it
must
be something like â??A car to look good in at the golf club
inâ?? or something similar. They certainly lost their path in
my opinion.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p>Â </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Mirek<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p>Â </o:p></span></p>
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1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
lang="EN-US"> Healeys
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";><healeys-bounces@autox.team.net></a>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jim
Ryan via Healeys<br>
<b>Sent:</b> April 17, 2022 4:01 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Fred Wescoe <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:fredwescoe@gmail.com";><fredwescoe@gmail.com></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Healeys <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";><healeys@autox.team.net></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Oil loss<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Â </o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Yeah, I went to check the oil in my
wife's 2015 BMW, no dipstick. I talk into a mechanic I know
and he told me they don't have them anymore. Later on I
bought a 2015 Mini Cooper s, again, no dipstick. The way you
check the oil on this one is you have to be on a perfectly
flat surface with the card operating temperature and
running, then you step through the menu and there's
something on there about checking the oil it takes one or
two minutes and comes back and tells you how full it is.
Personally, I think the whole thing defies logic, the
dipstick was easier. Plus, in a pinch, you always had
something to stick the marshmallows on at the fire
pit.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Â </o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On Sun, Apr 17, 2022, 8:34 AM Fred
Wescoe <<a href="mailto:fredwescoe@gmail.com";
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">fredwescoe@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I had a very interesting
incident with my Audi A6 turbo.  <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Â </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">I started the car a few mornings
ago and after about 5 minutes, the dashboard screen
popped up a message saying "Caution reduce your oil
level. Contact your dealer."  I was somewhat
surprised at the message, thinking someone snuck into
my garage overnight and added oil to the engine. So,
I decided to check the oil level. After lifting the
hood, I could not find the dipstick for the oil or for
the transmission. I called the dealer who told me to
drive the car very slowly to the dealership. At the
dealership, the car was examined (electronically I
suppose) and I was told everything was fine. I was
informed that the radar sensors in the front grill
sometimes get too wet and could cause false oil
messages.  <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Â </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">I was told that my car does
not have oil and transmission dipsticks. It seems
that the computers read everything and flash messages
when something is wrong.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Â </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">So, check the moisture content of
the radar sensors in the front grill of your Healey if
your car gives you an oil level message.  <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Â </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">I'm just mentioning,<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Â </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Fred<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">66 BJ8<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Â </o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On Sat, Apr 16, 2022 at 3:32 PM Bob
Spidell via Healeys <<a
href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">healeys@autox.team.net</a>>
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we bemoan, too much, a little drip from our bell
housings:<br>
<br>
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