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To: Neil Anderson <neilandcustom@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BN1 or BN2
From: Michael Oritt via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2021 14:19:31 -0400
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Great minds....

Best--Michael Oritt

On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 8:53 AM Neil Anderson <neilandcustom@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Supposedly, that is what Enzo Ferrari said to people who noticed slight
> side to side variations to his car's hand crafted bodies.
>
> Neil Anderson
>
> On Mon, Aug 9, 2021, 5:54 AM Michael Oritt via Healeys <
> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> Roland--
>>
>> As with sideburns, one cannot see both fenders at the same time so I see
>> no reason why their being different would matter!
>>
>> Best--Michael Oritt
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 8, 2021 at 7:56 PM sentenac.rw--- via Healeys <
>> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Lots of things can happen.  I had a new BN2 in 1956.  A friend
>>> accidentally backed into it denting the left rear fender.  I took it
>>> to the dealer to get it fixed.  They were out of swedged rear fenders
>>> and so they put an unswedged fender on the car.  If my Healey is still
>>> in existence it probably has one swedged and one unswedged rear
>>> fender.
>>>
>>> -Roland
>>>
>>> On Sun, 08 Aug 2021 22:55:35 +0000, you wrote:
>>>
>>> >Original alloy fenders were mounted until gone; then they applied
>>> >steel rear wings w/o a swedge line and they got mounted until they
>>> >were all gone; then they started using the "new" swedged wings.
>>> >Donald Healey requested in 1953 that the doors and wings be made of
>>> >steel, as the delivered cars were showing up damaged. (dock workers
>>> >with big boots) It took some time to get these into production, and no
>>> >one kept of record of when they changed over. Such is history. Hank
>>> >
>>> >       -----------------------------------------From: "healeyguy--- vi=
a
>>> >Healeys"
>>> >To: "healeys@autox.team.net"
>>> >Cc: "healeys@autox.team.net"
>>> >Sent: Sunday August 8 2021 3:23:02PM
>>> >Subject: Re: [Healeys] BN1 or BN2
>>> >
>>> >  Car # 228086, built 23Aug1955 as a BN2, does not have the body line
>>> >(swedge line) behind the rear tires. Perry
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: Michael Oritt via Healeys
>>> > To: Brian Drab
>>> > Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
>>> > Sent: Sun, Aug 8, 2021 5:34 pm
>>> > Subject: Re: [Healeys] BN1 or BN2
>>> >
>>> >     Brian--
>>> >  My 12/54 car #222333 is definitely a BN1 so if the s/n you have is
>>> >accurate it should unquestionably be a BN1.  There are a number of
>>> >points of differentiation between the two models, some of which would
>>> >be rather expensive to fudge from an earlier BN1 to a BN2--is there a
>>> >swedge line in the rear fenders?
>>> >  Best--Michael Oritt
>>> >   On Sun, Aug 8, 2021 at 4:27 PM Brian Drab via Healeys  wrote:
>>> >    Further to the questions on the disc brake conversion, there is
>>> >now a bit of confusion about what model this 100 is. The VIN appears
>>> >to be B222066. The question is =E2=80=93 is it a BN1 or a BN2. Unfortu=
nately
>>> >there have been some modifications to the car in it=E2=80=99s earlier =
years
>>> >which really cloud it=E2=80=99s true model.  Brian Drab Vancouver
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Great=
 minds....</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></=
div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Best--Michael Orit=
t</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail=
_attr">On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 8:53 AM Neil Anderson &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:n=
eilandcustom@gmail.com">neilandcustom@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><bl=
ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-lef=
t:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Supposedly=
, that is what Enzo Ferrari said to people who noticed slight side to side =
variations to his car&#39;s hand crafted bodies.<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div=
><div dir=3D"auto">Neil Anderson=C2=A0</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_q=
uote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 9, 2021, 5:54 AM Mi=
chael Oritt via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; targe=
t=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid =
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_def=
ault" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">Roland--</div><div class=3D"gmail_defa=
ult" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">As with sideburns, one cannot see both fende=
rs at the same time so I see no reason why their being different would matt=
er!</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><br></=
div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">Best--Micha=
el Oritt</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Aug 8, 2021 at 7:56 PM sentenac.rw--- via Healeys &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_=
blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(20=
4,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Lots of things can happen.=C2=A0 I had a new B=
N2 in 1956.=C2=A0 A friend<br>
accidentally backed into it denting the left rear fender.=C2=A0 I took it<b=
r>
to the dealer to get it fixed.=C2=A0 They were out of swedged rear fenders<=
br>
and so they put an unswedged fender on the car.=C2=A0 If my Healey is still=
<br>
in existence it probably has one swedged and one unswedged rear<br>
fender.<br>
<br>
-Roland<br>
<br>
On Sun, 08 Aug 2021 22:55:35 +0000, you wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt;Original alloy fenders were mounted until gone; then they applied<br>
&gt;steel rear wings w/o a swedge line and they got mounted until they<br>
&gt;were all gone; then they started using the &quot;new&quot; swedged wing=
s.<br>
&gt;Donald Healey requested in 1953 that the doors and wings be made of<br>
&gt;steel, as the delivered cars were showing up damaged. (dock workers<br>
&gt;with big boots) It took some time to get these into production, and no<=
br>
&gt;one kept of record of when they changed over. Such is history. Hank<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-----------------------------------------Fro=
m: &quot;healeyguy--- via<br>
&gt;Healeys&quot; <br>
&gt;To: &quot;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer" =
target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&quot;<br>
&gt;Cc: &quot;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer" =
target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&quot;<br>
&gt;Sent: Sunday August 8 2021 3:23:02PM<br>
&gt;Subject: Re: [Healeys] BN1 or BN2<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 Car # 228086, built 23Aug1955 as a BN2, does not have the body l=
ine<br>
&gt;(swedge line) behind the rear tires. Perry<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
&gt; From: Michael Oritt via Healeys <br>
&gt; To: Brian Drab <br>
&gt; Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer" targe=
t=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a> <br>
&gt; Sent: Sun, Aug 8, 2021 5:34 pm<br>
&gt; Subject: Re: [Healeys] BN1 or BN2<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Brian--=C2=A0 <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 My 12/54 car #222333 is definitely a BN1 so if the s/n you have =
is<br>
&gt;accurate it should unquestionably be a BN1.=C2=A0 There are a number of=
<br>
&gt;points of differentiation between the two models, some of which would<b=
r>
&gt;be rather expensive to fudge from an earlier BN1 to a BN2--is there a<b=
r>
&gt;swedge line in the rear fenders?=C2=A0 <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 Best--Michael Oritt=C2=A0 =C2=A0<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0On Sun, Aug 8, 2021 at 4:27 PM Brian Drab via Healeys=C2=
=A0 wrote:<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Further to the questions on the disc brake conversion, th=
ere is<br>
&gt;now a bit of confusion about what model this 100 is. The VIN appears<br=
>
&gt;to be B222066. The question is =E2=80=93 is it a BN1 or a BN2. Unfortun=
ately<br>
&gt;there have been some modifications to the car in it=E2=80=99s earlier y=
ears<br>
&gt;which really cloud it=E2=80=99s true model.=C2=A0 Brian Drab Vancouver=
=C2=A0 <br>
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