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Many stories and takes on exactly when it changed, but how is it possible
that no one knows why?
Best--Michael Oritt
On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 6:36 PM Patrick & Caroline Quinn <
p_cquinn@tpg.com.au> wrote:
> Hello
>
>
>
> According to Clausager, the =E2=80=98Austin of England=E2=80=99 badge was=
changed to the
> =E2=80=98Austin-Healey=E2=80=99 badge in August 1954, but he does not sup=
ply a chassis or
> body number. The reflector pods were introduced at the same time.
>
>
>
> According to Quinn (for what=E2=80=99s that worth) the Austin-Healey badg=
ing was
> changed to =E2=80=98Austin Healey=E2=80=99 during the change from the BT7=
Mk2 Roadster to
> the BJ7. I think I have looked at a zillion cars (impossible of course) a=
nd
> noted the hyphen with the roadsters and not with the convertibles.
>
>
>
> Hoo Roo
>
>
>
> Patrick Quinn
>
> Blue Mountains, Australia
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *Mi=
chael
> Oritt
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 28 July 2020 6:41 AM
> *To:* Curtis Arndt
> *Cc:* Austin Healey
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] interesting BN1 "survivor"
>
>
>
> Curt--
>
>
>
> I was referring to the dropping of the hyphen when the badging, and name,
> changed from "Austin-Healey" to "Austin Healey". I believe this was some
> time around the release of BN/BT 7's but may be wrong on that.
>
>
>
> In any case changing a car's badging/logo, much less the brand's formal
> name is, to my mind, much too big a deal to lay at the feet of a supplier=
's
> mistake.
>
>
>
> Best--Michael Oritt
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 4:23 PM Curtis Arndt <cnaarndt@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Healey became Austin Healey at the 1952 Earls court Motor show after DMH
> and Leonard Lord made a deal, and Roger Menadue made a new bonnet badge
> overnight.
>
>
>
> One can assume that since Austin already had a ready supply of Austin of
> England badges, that these were just put on the boot lid since after all,
> I'm certain Leonard Lord wanted everyone to know that while this "new car=
"
> was an Austin Healey, it was also an Austin of England car. Exactly why
> the change was made in early 1955, who knows. My guess is that by then,
> the Austin Healey name was such a success and established, that it could
> stand on its own...
>
>
>
> One man's opinion.
>
>
>
> Curt
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 1:15 PM Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> And I still have a question to which no one seems to have a
> definitive answer: Why (not when) did "Austin-Healey"
>
> become "Austin Healey"?
>
>
>
> I've heard various theories including the one where the supplier made a
> mistake and the factory took them at a discount and changed the company
> name but that really makes little sense.
>
>
>
> Does anyone *really* know the reason?
>
>
>
> Best--Michael Oritt
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 3:11 PM John Harper <ah100register@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> Just a small point. There was not an issue of old stock because cars like
> the A70 Hereford and the A40 Somerset used them until they were phased ou=
t
> some time later.
>
>
>
> Best regards
>
>
>
> On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 16:28, Ken Fleming via Healeys <
> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Very nice car. Appears to have good bones ! Great car to drive or restore=
.
>
> My car 160595 ,8/54 build also has Austin of England badge . Not sure
> where the change of badge occurred but believe it was end of August . Al=
so
> rear pods were added to BN1 about same time.Mine was late Aug and has pod=
s
> and early badge. I=E2=80=99m certain during the change point they were us=
ing all of
> old stock before installing new badge.
> Ken
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
> On Jul 27, 2020, at 11:13 AM, Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BF
>
> Eric--
>
>
>
> My car is #222333 built 12/54 and also has an "Austin of England" badge o=
n
> the boot.
>
>
>
> Best--Michael Oritt
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 11:04 AM Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote=
:
>
> Wow, very nice car. If that is indeed the original material on the seats
> it's amazing that it's held up so well.
>
> On 7/27/2020 12:31 AM, Eric Metzner wrote:
>
> Hi gents,
>
> perhaps of interst for some of you - Carmine red survivor, built january
> 1955 BN1, 16883 original miles.
>
>
>
> Some nice pictures can be found on:
> https://carrosso.nl/home-oud/for-sale/austin-healey-100-bn1-carmin-red.ht=
ml
>
>
>
> Wears also "Austin of England" on the trunk lid
>
>
>
> Cheers
> Eric
>
>
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Many =
stories and takes on exactly when it changed, but how=C2=A0is it possible t=
hat no one knows why?</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#333=
3ff"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Best--M=
ichael Oritt</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" cla=
ss=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 6:36 PM Patrick & Caroline Qu=
inn <<a href=3D"mailto:p_cquinn@tpg.com.au";>p_cquinn@tpg.com.au</a>> =
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0=
px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang=
=3D"EN-AU"><div class=3D"gmail-m_3629614575446876990WordSection1"><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt">Hello<u></u><u></u></span></p=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u>=
</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt">According =
to Clausager, the =E2=80=98Austin of England=E2=80=99 badge was changed to =
the =E2=80=98Austin-Healey=E2=80=99 badge in August 1954, but he does not s=
upply a chassis or body number. The reflector pods were introduced at the s=
ame time.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:11pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:11pt">According to Quinn (for what=E2=80=99s that worth) t=
he Austin-Healey badging was changed to =E2=80=98Austin Healey=E2=80=99 dur=
ing the change from the BT7 Mk2 Roadster to the BJ7. I think I have looked =
at a zillion cars (impossible of course) and noted the hyphen with the road=
sters and not with the convertibles.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt">Hoo Roo<u></u><u></u></sp=
an></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<=
u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt">Patr=
ick Quinn<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:11pt">Blue Mountains, Australia<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p=
class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-f=
amily:Tahoma,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font=
-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"> Healeys [mailto:<a href=3D"mailt=
o:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.t=
eam.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael Oritt<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 28 =
July 2020 6:41 AM<br><b>To:</b> Curtis Arndt<br><b>Cc:</b> Austin Healey<br=
><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] interesting BN1 "survivor"<u></u><=
u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">Curt--<u></u><u>=
</u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(5=
1,51,255)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">I was referring to the dropping of th=
e hyphen=C2=A0when=C2=A0the badging, and name, changed from "Austin-He=
aley" to "Austin Healey".=C2=A0 I believe=C2=A0this was some=
time around the release of BN/BT 7's but may be wrong on that.=C2=A0=
=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span styl=
e=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">In any case changing =
a car's badging/logo, much less the brand's formal name is, to my m=
ind, much too big a deal to lay at the feet of a supplier's mistake.=C2=
=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">Best--Michael Oritt<u>=
</u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></=
u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 4:23 PM Curt=
is Arndt <<a href=3D"mailto:cnaarndt@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">cnaarn=
dt@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"bor=
der-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb=
(204,204,204);padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm"><=
div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Healey became Austin Healey at the 1952 Earls co=
urt Motor show after DMH and Leonard Lord made a deal, and Roger Menadue ma=
de a=C2=A0new bonnet badge overnight.<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">One can a=
ssume that since Austin already had a ready supply=C2=A0of Austin of Englan=
d badges, that these were just put on the boot lid since after all, I'm=
certain Leonard Lord wanted everyone to know that while=C2=A0this "ne=
w=C2=A0car" was an Austin Healey, it was also an Austin of England car=
.=C2=A0 Exactly why the change was made in early 1955, who knows.=C2=A0 My =
guess is that=C2=A0by then, the Austin Healey name was such a success and e=
stablished, that it could stand on its own...=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div>=
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal">One man's opinion.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"M=
soNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Curt<u>=
</u><u></u></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><=
div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 1:15 PM Michael Ori=
tt <<a href=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">michael=
.oritt@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style=3D=
"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid=
rgb(204,204,204);padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0c=
m"><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">An=
d I still have a question to which no one seems to have a definitive=C2=A0a=
nswer: Why (not when) did "Austin-Healey"<u></u><u></u></span></p=
></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">bec=
ome "Austin Healey"?=C2=A0=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><d=
iv><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><u></u>=C2=
=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color=
:rgb(51,51,255)">I've heard various theories including the one where th=
e supplier made a mistake and the factory took them at a discount and chang=
ed the company name but that really makes little sense.<u></u><u></u></span=
></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"=
><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span sty=
le=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">Does anyone <i>really</i> know the reason?<u></=
u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:=
rgb(51,51,255)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">Best--Michael Oritt<u></u><u></u=
></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,5=
1,255)">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Mon, Jul 27, 202=
0 at 3:11 PM John Harper <<a href=3D"mailto:ah100register@gmail.com"; tar=
get=3D"_blank">ah100register@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></di=
v><blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none=
;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;margin-left=
:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Ken<u></u><u></u></p><=
div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"M=
soNormal">Just a small point. There was not an issue of old stock because c=
ars like the A70 Hereford and the A40 Somerset used them until they were ph=
ased out some time later.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Best regards<u>=
</u><u></u></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><=
div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 16:28, Ken Fleming v=
ia Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">=
healeys@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote st=
yle=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt=
solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-ri=
ght:0cm"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Very nice car. Appears to have good bo=
nes ! Great car to drive or restore.<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal">My car =C2=A0160595 ,8/54 build also has Austin of England badge . N=
ot sure where the change of badge occurred but =C2=A0believe it was end of =
August . Also rear pods were added to BN1 about same time.Mine was late Aug=
and has pods and early badge. I=E2=80=99m certain during the change point =
they were using all of old stock before installing new badge.=C2=A0<br>Ken<=
u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sent from my iPhone<u></u><u><=
/u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br><br><u></u><u></u></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt">On Jul 27, 2020, at 11:13 AM, M=
ichael Oritt <<a href=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blan=
k">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquot=
e style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
=EF=BB=BF<u></u><u></u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
color:rgb(51,51,255)">Eric--<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span=
></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"=
>My car is #222333 built=C2=A012/54 and also has an "Austin of England=
" badge on the boot.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></=
p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">Be=
st--Michael Oritt<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Mon, Jul 27, =
2020 at 11:04 AM Bob Spidell <<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; ta=
rget=3D"_blank">bspidell@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div>=
<blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;b=
order-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;margin-left:4=
.8pt;margin-right:0cm"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:1=
2pt">Wow, very nice car. If that is indeed the original material on the sea=
ts it's amazing that it's held up so well.<u></u><u></u></p><div><p=
class=3D"MsoNormal">On 7/27/2020 12:31 AM, Eric Metzner wrote:<u></u><u></=
u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><div><di=
v><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:Verdana,s=
ans-serif">Hi gents,<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al"><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">perhaps of=
interst for some of you - Carmine red survivor, built=C2=A0january 1955 BN=
1, 16883 original miles.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">=C2=A0=
<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:9pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Some nice pictures can be foun=
d on:=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://carrosso.nl/home-oud/for-sale/austin-healey-1=
00-bn1-carmin-red.html" target=3D"_blank">https://carrosso.nl/home-oud/for-=
sale/austin-healey-100-bn1-carmin-red.html</a><u></u><u></u></span></p></di=
v><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:Verd=
ana,sans-serif">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Wears al=
so "Austin of England" on the trunk lid<u></u><u></u></span></p><=
/div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:V=
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