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Hello
According to Clausager, the =E2=80=98Austin of England=E2=80=99 badge was c=
hanged to the =E2=80=98Austin-Healey=E2=80=99 badge in August 1954, but he =
does not supply a chassis or body number. The reflector pods were introduce=
d at the same time.
According to Quinn (for what=E2=80=99s that worth) the Austin-Healey badgin=
g was changed to =E2=80=98Austin Healey=E2=80=99 during the change from the=
BT7 Mk2 Roadster to the BJ7. I think I have looked at a zillion cars (impo=
ssible of course) and noted the hyphen with the roadsters and not with the =
convertibles.
Hoo Roo
Patrick Quinn
Blue Mountains, Australia
From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael =
Oritt
Sent: Tuesday, 28 July 2020 6:41 AM
To: Curtis Arndt
Cc: Austin Healey
Subject: Re: [Healeys] interesting BN1 "survivor"
Curt--
I was referring to the dropping of the hyphen when the badging, and name, c=
hanged from "Austin-Healey" to "Austin Healey". I believe this was some ti=
me around the release of BN/BT 7's but may be wrong on that.
In any case changing a car's badging/logo, much less the brand's formal nam=
e is, to my mind, much too big a deal to lay at the feet of a supplier's mi=
stake.
Best--Michael Oritt
On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 4:23 PM Curtis Arndt <cnaarndt@gmail.com> wrote:
Healey became Austin Healey at the 1952 Earls court Motor show after DMH an=
d Leonard Lord made a deal, and Roger Menadue made a new bonnet badge overn=
ight.
One can assume that since Austin already had a ready supply of Austin of En=
gland badges, that these were just put on the boot lid since after all, I'm=
certain Leonard Lord wanted everyone to know that while this "new car" was=
an Austin Healey, it was also an Austin of England car. Exactly why the c=
hange was made in early 1955, who knows. My guess is that by then, the Aus=
tin Healey name was such a success and established, that it could stand on =
its own...
One man's opinion.
Curt
On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 1:15 PM Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com> wro=
te:
And I still have a question to which no one seems to have a definitive answ=
er: Why (not when) did "Austin-Healey"
become "Austin Healey"?
I've heard various theories including the one where the supplier made a mis=
take and the factory took them at a discount and changed the company name b=
ut that really makes little sense.
Does anyone really know the reason?
Best--Michael Oritt
On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 3:11 PM John Harper <ah100register@gmail.com> wrote=
:
Ken
Just a small point. There was not an issue of old stock because cars like t=
he A70 Hereford and the A40 Somerset used them until they were phased out s=
ome time later.
Best regards
On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 16:28, Ken Fleming via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.n=
et> wrote:
Very nice car. Appears to have good bones ! Great car to drive or restore.
My car 160595 ,8/54 build also has Austin of England badge . Not sure wher=
e the change of badge occurred but believe it was end of August . Also rea=
r pods were added to BN1 about same time.Mine was late Aug and has pods and=
early badge. I=E2=80=99m certain during the change point they were using a=
ll of old stock before installing new badge.
Ken
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 27, 2020, at 11:13 AM, Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com> wrote=
:
=EF=BB=BF
Eric--
My car is #222333 built 12/54 and also has an "Austin of England" badge on =
the boot.
Best--Michael Oritt
On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 11:04 AM Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:
Wow, very nice car. If that is indeed the original material on the seats it=
's amazing that it's held up so well.
On 7/27/2020 12:31 AM, Eric Metzner wrote:
Hi gents,
perhaps of interst for some of you - Carmine red survivor, built january 19=
55 BN1, 16883 original miles.
Some nice pictures can be found on: https://carrosso.nl/home-oud/for-sale/a=
ustin-healey-100-bn1-carmin-red.html
Wears also "Austin of England" on the trunk lid
Cheers
Eric
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nk=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'f=
ont-size:11.0pt'>Hello<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span styl=
e=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><sp=
an style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>According to Clausager, the =E2=80=98Austin o=
f England=E2=80=99 badge was changed to the =E2=80=98Austin-Healey=E2=80=99=
badge in August 1954, but he does not supply a chassis or body number. The=
reflector pods were introduced at the same time.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p c=
lass=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span><=
/p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>According to Quinn=
(for what=E2=80=99s that worth) the Austin-Healey badging was changed to =
=E2=80=98Austin Healey=E2=80=99 during the change from the BT7 Mk2 Roadster=
to the BJ7. I think I have looked at a zillion cars (impossible of course)=
and noted the hyphen with the roadsters and not with the convertibles.<o:p=
></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:=
p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0=
pt'>Hoo Roo<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D=
'font-size:11.0pt'>Patrick Quinn<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>=
<span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Blue Mountains, Australia<o:p></o:p></span=
></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p=
></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:1=
0.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US=
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Healeys [mai=
lto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael Oritt<br><b=
>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 28 July 2020 6:41 AM<br><b>To:</b> Curtis Arndt<br><b>C=
c:</b> Austin Healey<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] interesting BN1 "=
;survivor"<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p>=
</p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'>Curt--<o:p=
></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#333=
3FF'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span styl=
e=3D'color:#3333FF'>I was referring to the dropping of the hyphen when=
the badging, and name, changed from "Austin-Healey" to &quo=
t;Austin Healey". I believe this was some time around the r=
elease of BN/BT 7's but may be wrong on that. <o:p></o:p></span>=
</p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#33=
33FF'>In any case changing a car's badging/logo, much less the brand's form=
al name is, to my mind, much too big a deal to lay at the feet of a supplie=
r's mistake. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><sp=
an style=3D'color:#3333FF'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'>Best--Michael Oritt<o:p></o:p></=
span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p=
class=3DMsoNormal>On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 4:23 PM Curtis Arndt <<a href=
=3D"mailto:cnaarndt@gmail.com";>cnaarndt@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p>=
</p></div><blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;=
padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><p class=
=3DMsoNormal>Healey became Austin Healey at the 1952 Earls court Motor show=
after DMH and Leonard Lord made a deal, and Roger Menadue made a new =
bonnet badge overnight.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> =
</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>One can assume that since Austin =
already had a ready supply of Austin of England badges, that these wer=
e just put on the boot lid since after all, I'm certain Leonard Lord wanted=
everyone to know that while this "new car" was an Aust=
in Healey, it was also an Austin of England car. Exactly why the chan=
ge was made in early 1955, who knows. My guess is that by then, =
the Austin Healey name was such a success and established, that it could st=
and on its own... <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>=
</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>One man's opinion.<o:p></o:=
p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p cl=
ass=3DMsoNormal>Curt<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 1:15 P=
M Michael Oritt <<a href=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com"; target=3D"_b=
lank">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquot=
e style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><s=
pan style=3D'color:#3333FF'>And I still have a question to which no one see=
ms to have a definitive answer: Why (not when) did "Austin-Healey=
"<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'=
color:#3333FF'>become "Austin Healey"? <o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'><o:p>&=
nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:=
#3333FF'>I've heard various theories including the one where the supplier m=
ade a mistake and the factory took them at a discount and changed the compa=
ny name but that really makes little sense.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div=
><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'><o:p> </o:p></span=
></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'>Does any=
one <i>really</i> know the reason?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></di=
v><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'>Best--Michael Ori=
tt<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'colo=
r:#3333FF'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:=
p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 3:=
11 PM John Harper <<a href=3D"mailto:ah100register@gmail.com"; target=3D"=
_blank">ah100register@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockqu=
ote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0c=
m 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Ken<o=
:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p c=
lass=3DMsoNormal>Just a small point. There was not an issue of old stock be=
cause cars like the A70 Hereford and the A40 Somerset used them until they =
were phased out some time later.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNor=
mal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Best regards<o:p><=
/o:p></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p=
class=3DMsoNormal>On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 16:28, Ken Fleming via Healeys &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox=
=2Eteam.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style=3D'border:=
none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:=
4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Very nice car. Appears to=
have good bones ! Great car to drive or restore.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p cla=
ss=3DMsoNormal>My car 160595 ,8/54 build also has Austin of England b=
adge . Not sure where the change of badge occurred but believe it was=
end of August . Also rear pods were added to BN1 about same time.Mine was =
late Aug and has pods and early badge. I=E2=80=99m certain during the chang=
e point they were using all of old stock before installing new badge. =
<br>Ken<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o=
:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMs=
oNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Jul 27, 2020, at 11:13 AM, Michae=
l Oritt <<a href=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">mi=
chael.oritt@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style=
=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>=EF=BB=
=BF<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333=
FF'>Eric--<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=
=3D'color:#3333FF'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNor=
mal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'>My car is #222333 built 12/54 and al=
so has an "Austin of England" badge on the boot.<o:p></o:p></span=
></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3=
333FF'>Best--Michael Oritt<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoN=
ormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On Mon, Jul 27, 2=
020 at 11:04 AM Bob Spidell <<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; tar=
get=3D"_blank">bspidell@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blo=
ckquote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0c=
m 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal s=
tyle=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Wow, very nice car. If that is indeed the ori=
ginal material on the seats it's amazing that it's held up so well.<o:p></o=
:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On 7/27/2020 12:31 AM, Eric Metzner wrote:=
<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.=
0pt'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-fam=
ily:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Hi gents,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p cl=
ass=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-=
serif"'>perhaps of interst for some of you - Carmine red survivor, built&nb=
sp;january 1955 BN1, 16883 original miles.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","=
sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><s=
pan style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Some nice =
pictures can be found on: <a href=3D"https://carrosso.nl/home-oud/for-=
sale/austin-healey-100-bn1-carmin-red.html" target=3D"_blank">https://carro=
sso.nl/home-oud/for-sale/austin-healey-100-bn1-carmin-red.html</a><o:p></o:=
p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:9.0pt=
;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div=
><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",=
"sans-serif"'>Wears also "Austin of England" on the trunk lid<o:p=
></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:=
9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div=
><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verd=
ana","sans-serif"'>Cheers <br>Eric<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p=
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><p class=3DMsoNormal><=
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