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Full disclosure - I use Nylatron for all my bushings except the upper cont=
rol arms are heims joints (and adjustable). The upper a-arm bushings really=
get beat and the metal is "just better".
I'm TR6 all the way.
c ya,rml
On Wednesday, January 31, 2024 at 03:13:19 PM EST, mark <marksnay@aol.c=
om> wrote: =20
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Delrin is Dupont's trade name for Polyacetel homopolymer resin which is lo=
w friction material and has a "slippery" feel to it. I have a Aluminum/Delr=
in bushing set up in one of my cars,=C2=A0a Delrin sleeve is fit between th=
e aluminum bushing ID and the bolt=C2=A0OD, the supplier recommended use of=
grease between the surfaces.
Nylotron is a Polyamide 6 or 6/6 resin ("Nylon" is Dupont's trade name for =
Polyamide) which has molybdenum disulfide powder mixed into the resin when =
extruded/cast/molded and is supposed to allow use without lubrication.
I cannot vouch for which material would be the better to use as I've not en=
ough experience with either.
Best Regards,
Mark Snay=C2=A0=C2=A0=20
On Wednesday, January 31, 2024 at 02:07:32 PM EST, Robert Lang via Fot =
<fot@autox.team.net> wrote: =20
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Hi,
Go with the Koni shocks in front. The SPAX shocks work well, but the gas le=
aks out and they become "just shocks" and without the gas, they can foam wh=
ich effects the shock efficiency over the course of a session. Or plan to r=
eplace the Spax every two years, plus or minus.
For the rears, unless you converted to a coil over setup and / or tie your =
shocks to your roll cage GET RID OF THE TUBE SHOCKS. I have seen a lot of p=
roblems with the conversion shock setups out there and you risk frame damag=
e running with those shocks. I can write a lot on this topic, but unless yo=
u can verify the action of the bump stops AND secure the shocks via rod end=
s, I will guarantee frame structural failure over time.
So - get a set of stock Armstrong lever shocks for the rear and get nosimpo=
rt.com (worldwide autoparts in Madison, WI) to rebuild them as adjustable a=
nd you get both a workable, reliable setup and it will work without messing=
up your frame. Unless you do stupid things like I do and bottom the suspen=
sion and break the frame, but I digress. I've run the Armstong adjustables =
for a long time and they work great. With a little tuning, you can get rid =
of the rear squat when you tromp on it, Makes the car handle completely dif=
ferently.
Delrin is a trademark, I believe - the material is the same as Nylatron. Yo=
u can verify by looking at the durometer ratings.
Regards,Bob Lang
On Wednesday, January 31, 2024 at 01:24:07 PM EST, Mark Cook via Fot <f=
ot@autox.team.net> wrote: =20
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Quick question (maybe?).=C2=A0 =C2=A0I am replacing the existing Koni front=
adjustable shocks (PN 80-1784).=C2=A0 Bushings are worn out as likely are =
the shocks. Same with the rear adjustable SPAX shocks on my =E2=80=9969 TR6=
racecar.=C2=A0 I am more familiar with Bilstein, Koni and MCS.=C2=A0=20
=C2=A0
Any preference?=C2=A0 Spax and Gaz are unknown to me, but the external adju=
ster is appealing compared to having to remove the Koni=E2=80=99s every tim=
e I need to adjust the suspension.
=C2=A0
Using the =E2=80=9Cwhile I am in there=E2=80=9D approach, I will be replaci=
ng all the front/rear suspension bushings.=C2=A0 Have purchased Nylatron bu=
shings.=C2=A0 Cannot find Delrin products for TR6.
=C2=A0
Thanks,
=C2=A0
Mark Cook
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<div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Full disclosure - I use Nyla=
tron for all my bushings except the upper control arms are heims joints (an=
d adjustable). The upper a-arm bushings really get beat and the metal is "j=
ust better".</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">I'm TR6 all the way.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" d=
ata-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">c ya,=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">rml<br></div><div><br></div>
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On Wednesday, January 31, 2024 at 03:13:19 PM EST, mark=
<marksnay@aol.com> wrote:
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<div><div id=3D"ydpa18ac17dyiv4782431656"><div><div style=
=3D"font-size:13px;font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif=
;" class=3D"ydpa18ac17dyiv4782431656ydp55d9eac9yahoo-style-wrap"><div><div =
dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-ser=
if;">Delrin is Dupont's trade name for Polyacetel homopolymer resin which i=
s low friction material and has a "slippery" feel to it. I have a Aluminum/=
Delrin bushing set up in one of my cars, <span><span style=3D"color:rg=
b(0, 0, 0);font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">a Del=
rin sleeve is fit between the aluminum bushing ID and the bolt</span></span=
> OD, the supplier recommended use of grease between the surfaces.</di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, s=
ans-serif;"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:=
Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">Nylotron is a Polyamide 6 or=
6/6 resin ("Nylon" is Dupont's trade name for Polyamide) which has molybde=
num disulfide powder mixed into the resin when extruded/cast/molded and is =
supposed to allow use without lubrication.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"f=
ont-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"><br clear=3D"none=
"></div><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Ar=
ial, sans-serif;">I cannot vouch for which material would be the better to =
use as I've not enough experience with either.</div><div style=3D"font-fami=
ly:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"><br clear=3D"none"></div>=
<div class=3D"ydpa18ac17dyiv4782431656ydp55d9eac9signature"><div style=3D"c=
olor:black;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-si=
ze:10pt;line-height:normal;"><div style=3D"color:black;font-style:normal;fo=
nt-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:10pt;line-height:normal;"><d=
iv style=3D"font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;color:black;font-style=
:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:10pt;line-height:n=
ormal;"><font face=3D"Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Best Re=
gards,</font></div><div style=3D"font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;c=
olor:black;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-si=
ze:10pt;line-height:normal;"><font face=3D"Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial=
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eight:normal;"><font style=3D"font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;" fa=
ce=3D"Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Mark Snay</font><div>&n=
bsp; </div></div></div></div></div></div>
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On Wednesday, January 31, 2024 at 02:07:32 PM EST, Robe=
rt Lang via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
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05739"><div><div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, san=
s-serif;font-size:13px;" class=3D"ydpa18ac17dyiv4782431656ydp63f3fb5cyiv864=
0905739ydp7e5ccdf3yahoo-style-wrap"><div></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi,</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">Go with the Koni shocks in front. The SPAX shocks work we=
ll, but the gas leaks out and they become "just shocks" and without the gas=
, they can foam which effects the shock efficiency over the course of a ses=
sion. Or plan to replace the Spax every two years, plus or minus.<br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
For the rears, unless you converted to a coil over setup and / or tie your =
shocks to your roll cage GET RID OF THE TUBE SHOCKS. I have seen a lot of p=
roblems with the conversion shock setups out there and you risk frame damag=
e running with those shocks. I can write a lot on this topic, but unless yo=
u can verify the action of the bump stops AND secure the shocks via rod end=
s, I will guarantee frame structural failure over time.</div><div dir=3D"lt=
r"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">So - get a set of stock Armstr=
ong lever shocks for the rear and get nosimport.com (worldwide autoparts in=
Madison, WI) to rebuild them as adjustable and you get both a workable, re=
liable setup and it will work without messing up your frame. Unless you do =
stupid things like I do and bottom the suspension and break the frame, but =
I digress. I've run the Armstong adjustables for a long time and they work =
great. With a little tuning, you can get rid of the rear squat when you tro=
mp on it, Makes the car handle completely differently.</div><div dir=3D"ltr=
"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Delrin is a trademark, I believ=
e - the material is the same as Nylatron. You can verify by looking at the =
durometer ratings.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"no=
ne"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Regards,</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Bob Lang<br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
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On Wednesday, January 31, 2024 at 01:24:07 PM EST, Mark=
Cook via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
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<div><div id=3D"ydpa18ac17dyiv4782431656ydp63f3fb5cyiv86409=
05739ydp518536d1yiv3804697143"><div><div class=3D"ydpa18ac17dyiv4782431656y=
dp63f3fb5cyiv8640905739ydp518536d1yiv3804697143WordSection1"><p class=3D"yd=
pa18ac17dyiv4782431656ydp63f3fb5cyiv8640905739ydp518536d1yiv3804697143MsoNo=
rmal">Quick question (maybe?). I am replacing the existing Koni=
front adjustable shocks (PN 80-1784). Bushings are worn out as likel=
y are the shocks. Same with the rear adjustable SPAX shocks on my =E2=80=99=
69 TR6 racecar. I am more familiar with Bilstein, Koni and MCS. =
</p><p class=3D"ydpa18ac17dyiv4782431656ydp63f3fb5cyiv8640905739ydp518536d=
1yiv3804697143MsoNormal"> </p><p class=3D"ydpa18ac17dyiv4782431656ydp=
63f3fb5cyiv8640905739ydp518536d1yiv3804697143MsoNormal">Any preference?&nbs=
p; Spax and Gaz are unknown to me, but the external adjuster is appealing c=
ompared to having to remove the Koni=E2=80=99s every time I need to adjust =
the suspension.</p><p class=3D"ydpa18ac17dyiv4782431656ydp63f3fb5cyiv864090=
5739ydp518536d1yiv3804697143MsoNormal"> </p><p class=3D"ydpa18ac17dyi=
v4782431656ydp63f3fb5cyiv8640905739ydp518536d1yiv3804697143MsoNormal">Using=
the =E2=80=9Cwhile I am in there=E2=80=9D approach, I will be replacing al=
l the front/rear suspension bushings. Have purchased Nylatron bushing=
s. Cannot find Delrin products for TR6.</p><p class=3D"ydpa18ac17dyiv=
4782431656ydp63f3fb5cyiv8640905739ydp518536d1yiv3804697143MsoNormal">  =
;</p><p class=3D"ydpa18ac17dyiv4782431656ydp63f3fb5cyiv8640905739ydp518536d=
1yiv3804697143MsoNormal">Thanks,</p><p class=3D"ydpa18ac17dyiv4782431656ydp=
63f3fb5cyiv8640905739ydp518536d1yiv3804697143MsoNormal"> </p><p class=
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