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Delrin is Dupont's trade name for Polyacetel homopolymer resin which is low=
friction material and has a "slippery" feel to it. I have a Aluminum/Delri=
n bushing set up in one of my cars,=C2=A0a Delrin sleeve is fit between the=
aluminum bushing ID and the bolt=C2=A0OD, the supplier recommended use of =
grease between the surfaces.
Nylotron is a Polyamide 6 or 6/6 resin ("Nylon" is Dupont's trade name for =
Polyamide) which has molybdenum disulfide powder mixed into the resin when =
extruded/cast/molded and is supposed to allow use without lubrication.
I cannot vouch for which material would be the better to use as I've not en=
ough experience with either.
Best Regards,
Mark Snay=C2=A0=C2=A0=20
On Wednesday, January 31, 2024 at 02:07:32 PM EST, Robert Lang via Fot =
<fot@autox.team.net> wrote: =20
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Hi,
Go with the Koni shocks in front. The SPAX shocks work well, but the gas le=
aks out and they become "just shocks" and without the gas, they can foam wh=
ich effects the shock efficiency over the course of a session. Or plan to r=
eplace the Spax every two years, plus or minus.
For the rears, unless you converted to a coil over setup and / or tie your =
shocks to your roll cage GET RID OF THE TUBE SHOCKS. I have seen a lot of p=
roblems with the conversion shock setups out there and you risk frame damag=
e running with those shocks. I can write a lot on this topic, but unless yo=
u can verify the action of the bump stops AND secure the shocks via rod end=
s, I will guarantee frame structural failure over time.
So - get a set of stock Armstrong lever shocks for the rear and get nosimpo=
rt.com (worldwide autoparts in Madison, WI) to rebuild them as adjustable a=
nd you get both a workable, reliable setup and it will work without messing=
up your frame. Unless you do stupid things like I do and bottom the suspen=
sion and break the frame, but I digress. I've run the Armstong adjustables =
for a long time and they work great. With a little tuning, you can get rid =
of the rear squat when you tromp on it, Makes the car handle completely dif=
ferently.
Delrin is a trademark, I believe - the material is the same as Nylatron. Yo=
u can verify by looking at the durometer ratings.
Regards,Bob Lang
On Wednesday, January 31, 2024 at 01:24:07 PM EST, Mark Cook via Fot <f=
ot@autox.team.net> wrote: =20
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Quick question (maybe?).=C2=A0 =C2=A0I am replacing the existing Koni front=
adjustable shocks (PN 80-1784).=C2=A0 Bushings are worn out as likely are =
the shocks. Same with the rear adjustable SPAX shocks on my =E2=80=9969 TR6=
racecar.=C2=A0 I am more familiar with Bilstein, Koni and MCS.=C2=A0=20
=C2=A0
Any preference?=C2=A0 Spax and Gaz are unknown to me, but the external adju=
ster is appealing compared to having to remove the Koni=E2=80=99s every tim=
e I need to adjust the suspension.
=C2=A0
Using the =E2=80=9Cwhile I am in there=E2=80=9D approach, I will be replaci=
ng all the front/rear suspension bushings.=C2=A0 Have purchased Nylatron bu=
shings.=C2=A0 Cannot find Delrin products for TR6.
=C2=A0
Thanks,
=C2=A0
Mark Cook
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<html><head></head><body><div class=3D"ydp55d9eac9yahoo-style-wrap" style=
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rif;"><div style=3D""><div style=3D"font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica,=
Arial, sans-serif;" dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Delrin is Dupont's t=
rade name for Polyacetel homopolymer resin which is low friction material a=
nd has a "slippery" feel to it. I have a Aluminum/Delrin bushing set up in =
one of my cars, <span><span style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:=
Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">a Delrin sleeve is fit betw=
een the aluminum bushing ID and the bolt</span></span> OD, the supplie=
r recommended use of grease between the surfaces.</div><div style=3D"font-f=
amily: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" dir=3D"ltr" data-setd=
ir=3D"false"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica=
, Arial, sans-serif;" dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Nylotron is a Polya=
mide 6 or 6/6 resin ("Nylon" is Dupont's trade name for Polyamide) which ha=
s molybdenum disulfide powder mixed into the resin when extruded/cast/molde=
d and is supposed to allow use without lubrication.</div><div style=3D"font=
-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" dir=3D"ltr" data-se=
tdir=3D"false"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helveti=
ca, Arial, sans-serif;" dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">I cannot vouch fo=
r which material would be the better to use as I've not enough experience w=
ith either.</div><div style=3D"font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Aria=
l, sans-serif;"><br></div><div class=3D"ydp55d9eac9signature" style=3D""><d=
iv style=3D"color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; font-str=
etch: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal;"><div style=3D"color: b=
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ize: 10pt; line-height: normal;"><div style=3D"font-family: Arial, Helvetic=
a, sans-serif; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; font-=
stretch: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal;"><font face=3D"Helve=
tica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Best Regards,</font></div><div sty=
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nt face=3D"Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" style=3D"font-fami=
ly: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Mark Snay</font><div style=3D""> &n=
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On Wednesday, January 31, 2024 at 02:07:32 PM EST, Robe=
rt Lang via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
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<div><br></div>
<div><div id=3D"ydp63f3fb5cyiv8640905739"><div><div style=
=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px=
;" class=3D"ydp63f3fb5cyiv8640905739ydp7e5ccdf3yahoo-style-wrap"><div></div=
>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi,</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">Go with the Koni shocks in front. The SPAX shocks work we=
ll, but the gas leaks out and they become "just shocks" and without the gas=
, they can foam which effects the shock efficiency over the course of a ses=
sion. Or plan to replace the Spax every two years, plus or minus.<br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
For the rears, unless you converted to a coil over setup and / or tie your =
shocks to your roll cage GET RID OF THE TUBE SHOCKS. I have seen a lot of p=
roblems with the conversion shock setups out there and you risk frame damag=
e running with those shocks. I can write a lot on this topic, but unless yo=
u can verify the action of the bump stops AND secure the shocks via rod end=
s, I will guarantee frame structural failure over time.</div><div dir=3D"lt=
r"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">So - get a set of stock Armstr=
ong lever shocks for the rear and get nosimport.com (worldwide autoparts in=
Madison, WI) to rebuild them as adjustable and you get both a workable, re=
liable setup and it will work without messing up your frame. Unless you do =
stupid things like I do and bottom the suspension and break the frame, but =
I digress. I've run the Armstong adjustables for a long time and they work =
great. With a little tuning, you can get rid of the rear squat when you tro=
mp on it, Makes the car handle completely differently.</div><div dir=3D"ltr=
"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Delrin is a trademark, I believ=
e - the material is the same as Nylatron. You can verify by looking at the =
durometer ratings.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"no=
ne"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Regards,</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Bob Lang<br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
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On Wednesday, January 31, 2024 at 01:24:07 PM EST, Mark=
Cook via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
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<div><div id=3D"ydp63f3fb5cyiv8640905739ydp518536d1yiv38046=
97143"><div><div class=3D"ydp63f3fb5cyiv8640905739ydp518536d1yiv3804697143W=
ordSection1"><p class=3D"ydp63f3fb5cyiv8640905739ydp518536d1yiv3804697143Ms=
oNormal">Quick question (maybe?). I am replacing the existing K=
oni front adjustable shocks (PN 80-1784). Bushings are worn out as li=
kely are the shocks. Same with the rear adjustable SPAX shocks on my =E2=80=
=9969 TR6 racecar. I am more familiar with Bilstein, Koni and MCS.&nb=
sp; </p><p class=3D"ydp63f3fb5cyiv8640905739ydp518536d1yiv3804697143MsoNorm=
al"> </p><p class=3D"ydp63f3fb5cyiv8640905739ydp518536d1yiv3804697143=
MsoNormal">Any preference? Spax and Gaz are unknown to me, but the ex=
ternal adjuster is appealing compared to having to remove the Koni=E2=80=99=
s every time I need to adjust the suspension.</p><p class=3D"ydp63f3fb5cyiv=
8640905739ydp518536d1yiv3804697143MsoNormal"> </p><p class=3D"ydp63f3=
fb5cyiv8640905739ydp518536d1yiv3804697143MsoNormal">Using the =E2=80=9Cwhil=
e I am in there=E2=80=9D approach, I will be replacing all the front/rear s=
uspension bushings. Have purchased Nylatron bushings. Cannot fi=
nd Delrin products for TR6.</p><p class=3D"ydp63f3fb5cyiv8640905739ydp51853=
6d1yiv3804697143MsoNormal"> </p><p class=3D"ydp63f3fb5cyiv8640905739y=
dp518536d1yiv3804697143MsoNormal">Thanks,</p><p class=3D"ydp63f3fb5cyiv8640=
905739ydp518536d1yiv3804697143MsoNormal"> </p><p class=3D"ydp63f3fb5c=
yiv8640905739ydp518536d1yiv3804697143MsoNormal">Mark Cook</p></div></div></=
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